Josh Reynolds

[Cairnstigers]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

 

[hammertime]

Madge and Co are building us for the long term. Investing in juniors and getting in great coaching staff. I wouldn't put it in the frame of 'no more excuses' as we want to encourage the right behaviour. Shortcuts and short term thinking will put us back in the same hole we've been.

Immediate results could be gained if we just wanted a top 8. All we do is over pay and front load contracts. I'm not going to back that.

Madge is laying the right bricks for a solid foundation.

 

[BAGNF05]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

 

[cochise]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

 

[hank37w]

With the favorable draw that we have got, now the pressure is on.

 

[cochise]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

This is a much better squad than this year, so I definitely agree and am starting to feel a level of confidence I haven't felt in a long time.

 

[hammertime]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

Yes and no. We had an origin and international spine then. Benji and Robbie were playing well, mbye too and brooksy is negated. You can't say that our an untested douleigh and liddle is better than benji and Robbie in 2019

Ill agree our forward pack is better though.

 

[JC99]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

Is our roster really that much better? We’ve only got 4 new guys in the team and two of them have not been playing well and one is an unproven rookie. If they all perform at their best it’ll improve us but I feel like that’s unlikely.

I’m not trying to make excuses I just don’t feel like that on paper our roster is all that much better than last year. It’s very contingent on all the new guys playing their best and the old guys all improving. That’s on the coaching staff and the players themselves to do that, if they can then we will shock plenty of people that’s for sure

 

[Geo]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Reynolds removed so 2?

 

[BAGNF05]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I’ll illustrate my point using tiers

Clearly a better roster than us
Roosters, Raiders, Panthers, Souths, Titans, Parramatta, Melbourne

More talent than us in the spine
Knights, Manly,

Teams we stack up against well
Dragons, Cowboys, Bulldogs, sharks, Brisbane, New Zealand

Unfortunately we’re still looking at 9th or around abouts.

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

Yes and no. We had an origin and international spine then. Benji and Robbie were playing well, mbye too and brooksy is negated. You can't say that our an untested douleigh and liddle is better than benji and Robbie in 2019

Ill agree our forward pack is better though.

I’ll take AD over Benji any day of the week. Also, For 2019 Corey T was fullback most of the time.

Additionally, our centres are Roberts and BJ vs Marsters and Mbye. No comparison.

Our forward pack now is also no comparison.

With the exception of Farah (for first part of season) 2021 tigers stronger than 2019 in every position.

 

[hobbo1]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I’ll illustrate my point using tiers

Clearly a better roster than us
Roosters, Raiders, Panthers, Souths, Titans, Parramatta, Melbourne

More talent than us in the spine
Knights, Manly,

Teams we stack up against well
Dragons, Cowboys, Bulldogs, sharks, Brisbane, New Zealand

Unfortunately we’re still looking at 9th or around abouts.

Agree on 9th
Team will need time to gel

 

[avocadoontoast]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

Is our roster really that much better? We’ve only got 4 new guys in the team and two of them have not been playing well and one is an unproven rookie. If they all perform at their best it’ll improve us but I feel like that’s unlikely.

I’m not trying to make excuses I just don’t feel like that on paper our roster is all that much better than last year. It’s very contingent on all the new guys playing their best and the old guys all improving. That’s on the coaching staff and the players themselves to do that, if they can then we will shock plenty of people that’s for sure

Name who in our 2019 team would start ahead of our 2021 team.

 

[BAGNF05]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

Is our roster really that much better? We’ve only got 4 new guys in the team and two of them have not been playing well and one is an unproven rookie. If they all perform at their best it’ll improve us but I feel like that’s unlikely.

I’m not trying to make excuses I just don’t feel like that on paper our roster is all that much better than last year. It’s very contingent on all the new guys playing their best and the old guys all improving. That’s on the coaching staff and the players themselves to do that, if they can then we will shock plenty of people that’s for sure

Name who in our 2019 team would start ahead of our 2021 team.

Unfortunately we’re not up against an earlier version of ourselves, we’re playing teams stacked with established rep stars.

 

[Cairnstigers]

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Reynolds removed so 2?

Yes but still carrying $200'000 of his salary off our cap by the sounds of it
That can make a big difference on the quality of player we could sign in his place

 

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With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

Is our roster really that much better? We’ve only got 4 new guys in the team and two of them have not been playing well and one is an unproven rookie. If they all perform at their best it’ll improve us but I feel like that’s unlikely.

I’m not trying to make excuses I just don’t feel like that on paper our roster is all that much better than last year. It’s very contingent on all the new guys playing their best and the old guys all improving. That’s on the coaching staff and the players themselves to do that, if they can then we will shock plenty of people that’s for sure

Name who in our 2019 team would start ahead of our 2021 team.

Unfortunately we’re not up against an earlier version of ourselves, we’re playing teams stacked with established rep stars.

Pretty sure those teams were stacked with established rep stars in 2019 too.

 

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With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

How many of them actually signed from outside tigers? Sometimes you re-sign guys because there’s no better options like Seyfarth. Obviously he should get them performing but I still don’t think we will make the 8 next season.

Doubt Reynolds money is used for much good anyway considering how little options there are on the player market at the moment

With Reynolds gone it removes another excuse for non performance in 2021....

28 of the eventual 30 will All have been recruited re-signed/extended by the current recruitment team..

Not his team won't fly in 21...

Still have to have time to replace that player... otherwise, it is wasted cap, and it the same as having Reynolds

There’s very little on the market too. It won’t make a difference to our 2021 campaign at all most likely. Still an average roster overall.


How many signed outside the Wests Tigers?

Douiehi, Kapaoa, Leilua x2, Ofahengaue, Tamou, Musgrove, Simpkin, Roberts, Utoikamanu, Blore, Walters...about half

Less than half, and a couple of them rookies. Still a roster hamstrung by issues of the past. Obviously Madge needs to work with what he’s got but 2022 is still the big year where he will have a lot more choice in the squad. It’ll be interesting to see how the squad goes next season, they could kill it or they could flop imo

Nope. This is his team now.

Definitely more so than last year, but not completely imo. Still no excuse not to get them going though, work with what you’ve got. Like I said if we play our best every week, we will make the 8.

How many coaches have completely their team? Stuff all. I like the team he’s put together but it’s on him now. No more excuses.

Your still looking at
Packer $700'000
Mbye $800'000 ?
Reynolds $700'000
Thats a total of $2'200'000 cap money tied up which is not Madges doing
Almost a quarter of our cap
Its not Madges team till he rids us of these players and this burden on our cap
(Sure we can keep Mbye but certainly not on the $ he is on)
Then and only then can he be held accountable for our teams performance
Even then if we are subsidising players like Reynolds it may restrict us on who we can sign
Also the very best players that Madge may wish to sign may not be off contract when we have the money to spend
Much of these signing descisions come down to timing
At the end of the day I would like to see Madge here to complete his team rebuild for another 3 years
2 to complete his team and 1 to prove without a doubt as to what he can do with the team
I have been impressed with who things are going at our club
I think we can all see how things are working out and there is definitely reason to be optimistic about our chances over the next few years
Well done to the entire board at The West Tigers
But the job is not complete yet

Finally
I would love Madge to stay if we can from this day forward continue to climb the ladder to a premiership
Slip down the ladder and the pressure will certainly be on him to keep his job
But IMOP he is safe for another 2 to 3 years at this stage
Till the team is truly his

Nah he has as much his team now as most other coaches. If we cop a hiding this year and do nothing it’s on him. This roster is good enough to do something.

Have to disagree, we have done the best we can in limited circumstances but our side still doesn’t stack up with the good sides on paper for the reasons outlined. I believe Madge will need 3 years to get this side competing consistently.

Disagree, I think our lineup is substantially better than 2019 when we came 9th. No more excuses, time to start winning.

I don't think top 8 is an iron clad requirement next year, but it is definitely a possibility if things fall our way.

Perhaps not but there should be a hell of a lot of improvement on this year.

Is our roster really that much better? We’ve only got 4 new guys in the team and two of them have not been playing well and one is an unproven rookie. If they all perform at their best it’ll improve us but I feel like that’s unlikely.

I’m not trying to make excuses I just don’t feel like that on paper our roster is all that much better than last year. It’s very contingent on all the new guys playing their best and the old guys all improving. That’s on the coaching staff and the players themselves to do that, if they can then we will shock plenty of people that’s for sure

Name who in our 2019 team would start ahead of our 2021 team.

Unfortunately we’re not up against an earlier version of ourselves, we’re playing teams stacked with established rep stars.

Pretty sure those teams were stacked with established rep stars in 2019 too.

True and we finished 9th, it was a lousy day on the hill at Leichhardt, looking at our roster, I don’t feel we can expect much better (yet, 2022 we have a war chest and hopefully a long term coach)