Juniors - Pathways General Discussion

Our SG Ball Magpies team came back to the pack this year and didn't make the semis of the Ball, it probably hurt their chances. The NSW pack that has been picked for the 19s is next level especially the Newcastle boys McQuwen and Hopgood. I saw Tom-Learoyd Lahrs son playing Q-Cup last week in the firsts and he is only 18, the kid is a freak forward.
Our retention is also very poor.
Jackson Owen was clearly one of best performers in a struggling Flegg team last season, we cut him loose and he is now regularly featuring in the Qld Cup Team of the Week.
He’s one of quite a few we didn’t want and are now playing very well for their new clubs this season.
 
Our retention is also very poor.
Jackson Owen was clearly one of best performers in a struggling Flegg team last season, we cut him loose and he is now regularly featuring in the Qld Cup Team of the Week.
He’s one of quite a few we didn’t want and are now playing very well for their new clubs this season.
Links to a bigger issue, the personal development of young players in the WT system. Not 100% sure of our coaching structure for our pathways (outside of grade coaches) but maybe we need to employ 2-3 development coaches who are focused specifically on the personal development of players.

Almost like in workplaces where employees have a personal development plan which identifies strengths & weaknesses, future progress etc and puts steps in place to address weaknesses through specific training over a set duration.
 
For all our talk of being a club building from juniors we don't have a single player picked in the extended NSW u19 squad. Not great ... Though obviously Galvin would have been there if not in first grade.

well Latu and Galvin are injured, Tallyn is playing first grade, Luke Laulili’i is a year young and Heath was never going to be picked ahead of Chevy. same situation with Kit and Blake Steep.

the player that’s been hard done by is Jordan Miller, but even then I think the club may have said that we need him at the minute given how shocking our middle forward stocks are at present.
 
Links to a bigger issue, the personal development of young players in the WT system. Not 100% sure of our coaching structure for our pathways (outside of grade coaches) but maybe we need to employ 2-3 development coaches who are focused specifically on the personal development of players.

Almost like in workplaces where employees have a personal development plan which identifies strengths & weaknesses, future progress etc and puts steps in place to address weaknesses through specific training over a set duration.
Agree
Even structuring training packages
for body shapes, how many of our forwards lately have the same body shape (Pole,Matamau, Sione Fainu)
I’m preying that after the next offseason Samuela Fainu doesn’t return looking like the rest of them.
Surely they can get a balance of taller faster edge forwards to go along with the more stockier guys we have at the moment.
 
well Latu and Galvin are injured, Tallyn is playing first grade, Luke Laulili’i is a year young and Heath was never going to be picked ahead of Chevy. same situation with Kit and Blake Steep.

the player that’s been hard done by is Jordan Miller, but even then I think the club may have said that we need him at the minute given how shocking our middle forward stocks are at present.
Miller turned 19 in February does that make him ineligible
 

NRL 2024: Wests Tigers production line in full swing as the next crop of talent at Concord is revealed​

Wests Tigers coach Benji Marshall has some of the best rugby league rising talent in the country at his disposal. We take a look at the rising pathways players next in line.

Fatima Kdouh

The Wests Tigers production line is in full swing.

Coach Benji Marshall has one eye on the future and hasn’t been afraid to blood the club’s most promising rookies in 2024, handing out 10 NRL debuts so far this season, including boom five-eighth Lachlan Galvin.

The 18-year-old Galvin is at the centre of a Tigers revival, the foundation of which will be built around the club’s best pathways talent.

The Tigers’ back-to-back wins has featured teenagers Galvin, Jordan Miller, Heath Mason and Luke Laulilii – who are all local juniors.

It not only put the spotlight on the club’s pathways but has fans wondering who is the next in line?

Inside Wests Tigers’ booming junior production line.

Inside Wests Tigers’ booming junior production line.

The likes of centre Heamasi Makasini and playmaker Onitoni Large, who starred in Harold Matthews (under-17s), are rated as some of the best prospects in the country.

While others like back rower Archie Duncombe, 18, is another local junior who is considered one of the most promising forwards at the Concord club.

We take a look at the youngsters that Marshall will have at his disposal, now and into the future, as part of the club’s roster rebuild.

WESTS TIGERS' THRIVING JUNIOR NURSERY​


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Heamasi Makasini​


Grade: Harold Matthews (under 17’s)
Position: Centre
Age: 16
A standout for the Magpies, Makasini was named the Harold Matthews player of the year and finished the under 17’s season as the top try scorer. Makasini is not only one of the brightest prospects at the Tigers but in the junior ranks. Physically, the damaging centre is considered ready for NRL.
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Alex Isdale​


Grade: Harold Matthews
Position: Halfback
Age: 17
Described as the ‘ultimate professional’, Isdale’s work ethic is impressing coach staff at the Tigers. The club has high hopes for Isdale and is considered a genuine NRL prospect. The diminutive halfback isn’t afraid to take on the line, is a game manager and solid defensively. Like Makasini, Isdale has got a taste of the NRL program and trains with the squad one day per week.
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Onitoni Large​


Grade: Harold Matthews
Position: Five-eighth
Age: 16
Large is considered the best halves prospects in the country at his age level. Despite his tender age, Large was invited to train with the NRL squad during the preseason. A gifted playmaker, Large also packs plenty of speed and has built a damaging combination with Makasini in 2024. A top retention priority, the club is keen to lock down the Scots College student and junior Wallabies captain long term.
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Heith Pritchard​


Grade: SG Ball (under 19’s)
Position: Hooker
Age: 18
Still eligible for SG Ball, Pritchard was elevated into the Jersey Flegg side this year as a utility on the bench. The youngster can cover multiple roles including in the halves, hooker and even at centre.
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Archie Duncombe​


Grade: SG Ball
Position: Backrower
Age: 17
A St Gregory’s College product, Duncombe is a tough backrower that is always willing to do the hard yards and is a strong ball carrier. But the budding forward has the ball playing skills to match. Considered one of the best second row prospects coming through the ranks at the club. Like Pritchard, has been elevated into Jersey Flegg this year, where is starting on an edge.
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Kobie Wilson​


Grade: Jersey Flegg (under 21’s)
Position: Hooker
Age: 20
Wilson is a genuine No.9 who brings plenty of energy from dummy half that caught the attention of coaching staff. The skipper has crisp, clean service out of dummy half but is also willing to run the ball and probe the line. The former Cronulla Sharks junior hasn’t taken a backward step since joining the Tiger and was named skipper of the Jersey Flegg side.
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Lachlan Broederlow​


Grade: Jersey Flegg
Position: Second row
Age: 20
Broaderlow started his journey in the Canterbury Bulldogs pathways but joined the Tigers looking for an opportunity, one he is making the most of at Concord. A tough backrower, who gets the job done in defence and can run a good line, Broaderlow has played five games in NSW Cup this year.
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Tony Sukkar​


Grade: NSW Cup
Position: Forward
Age: 20
Sukkar was named as 18th man, for the first time this year, against the Raiders as the forward edges closer to an NRL debut. He featured in both of the Tigers pre-season challenge matches earlier this year. A forward, who can play up front and on an edge, Sukkar Still eligible for Jersey Flegg, Sukkar has nailed a spot in the NSW Cup side in recent weeks.
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Cayne Nicholas​


Grade: NSW Cup
Position: Lock
Age: 20
Nicholas started the year in Jersey Flegg at lock but was elevated to NSW Cup earlier this month, where he has played off the bench. The workhorse lock forward, who can also fill-in at hooker, is always willing to roll-up his sleeves and do a mountain of work in defense.
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2024 Tigers debutants​


  • Lachlan Galvin
  • Jordan Miller
  • Heath Mason
  • Luke Laulilii
  • Latu Fainu
  • Sione Fainu
  • Solomona Faataape
  • Alex Lobb
  • Reuben Porter
  • Solomon Alaimalo
 
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I was reading an old thread regarding the loss of Tedesco the first time to the Raiders and Grant Mayer complained clubs which produce juniors are not compensated for their loss. I always believe deductions on contract amounts under the salary cap offer incentives to clubs to produce local juniors eg if it cost us x to re-sign Galvin the cost to our cup would be 25% of his contract amount with a 75% deduction due to him being a local junior. Obviously the definition of "local junior" would have to be defined and that junior would have to play in for example the junior league of the Sydney Roosters - eastern suburbs sydney or in Melbourne (the Storm). Oh wait a minute, do the Roosters and Storm have a junior league?

This was thread was in 2014 and little if anything has been done.
 
. Obviously the definition of "local junior" would have to be defined and that junior would have to play in for example the junior league of the Sydney Roosters - eastern suburbs sydney or in Melbourne (the Storm). Oh wait a minute, do the Roosters and Storm have a junior league?
No … they would rather spend their money on buying already established players rather than having a thousand juniors and trying to find the 3 or 4 NRL players .. unfortunately a couple of clubs have to do the donkey work for the others …not sure what the answer is to be honest .. it’s what happens when they don’t have a draft to spread around talent ..
 
No … they would rather spend their money on buying already established players rather than having a thousand juniors and trying to find the 3 or 4 NRL players .. unfortunately a couple of clubs have to do the donkey work for the others …not sure what the answer is to be honest .. it’s what happens when they don’t have a draft to spread around talent ..
Easy. Dont waste club money on comps. Spend on the elite. NRL have to do something or they die. Its the nuclear option but...
 
Easy. Dont waste club money on comps. Spend on the elite. NRL have to do something or they die. Its the nuclear option but...

I don’t know what the alternatives are though for the NRL to establish pools of junior players and then share them evenly throughout the 17 teams ?
 

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