Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?

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@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330103) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330076) said:
@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !



@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !

Totally disagree,

Cooper looks like Jennings#2, Cini looks sharp and nrl eligible.

But yes Fitzgibbon is 12-18 months away from first grade. Should possibly even be dropped to Ron Massey

Cini makes TT LOOK FAST.

Not much being fast if you can't catch the ball and/or tackle. AJ not playing reserve grade is actually a great disadvantage for him.
 
Young kid learning his trade. Had a crack goes back to reserves works on what he needs to and try and forces his way back in.

All positives really.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330076) said:
@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !



@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !

Totally disagree,

Cooper looks like Jennings#2, Cini looks sharp and nrl eligible.

But yes Fitzgibbon is 12-18 months away from first grade. Should possibly even be dropped to Ron Massey

Cini's defence will be found out as well as his lack of pace. Fitzgibbon has the natural ability to make it, all he requires is to learn his art in NSW Cup and for the coaching staff to be working with him.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330168) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330076) said:
@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !



@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !

Totally disagree,

Cooper looks like Jennings#2, Cini looks sharp and nrl eligible.

But yes Fitzgibbon is 12-18 months away from first grade. Should possibly even be dropped to Ron Massey

Cini's defence will be found out as well as his lack of pace. Fitzgibbon has the natural ability to make it, all he requires is to learn his art in NSW Cup and for the coaching staff to be working with him.

I disagree. From what I have seen this year, Cini has grasped his opportunity at fullback and is a hard ball runner. He defence issues at Centre will be less prominent at fullback also. I did not rate him before this year, but have been impressed in the three or so times I have seen him this season.

On the other hand Fitzgibbon has been disappointing. His natural ability is dwarfed by his inability to catch and pass. I really do hope he improves but the negatives well and truly outweigh any positives at this stage. I don't support him being dropped, but I am concerned as to whether he can improve enough to make the top 30.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330168) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330076) said:
@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !



@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !

Totally disagree,

Cooper looks like Jennings#2, Cini looks sharp and nrl eligible.

But yes Fitzgibbon is 12-18 months away from first grade. Should possibly even be dropped to Ron Massey

Cini's defence will be found out as well as his lack of pace. Fitzgibbon has the natural ability to make it, all he requires is to learn his art in NSW Cup and for the coaching staff to be working with him.

OK - I'm going to throw my 2 bob's worth in here.

In 2019, Cini scored quite a few tries in JF (12 I think?) and showed a lot of speed at centre. His defence I have to say was below par. This year at fullback his defence does not seem as exposed but he has made an incredible number of metres each game so must be doing something right. His stats are quite strong.

Unfortunately, footballers who have bad hands when they are young rarely come good. Not sure if Ferguson has always had good hands until Sunday but he is in the twilight of his career & those torpedo bombs from AD would have tested almost anyone.

So as much as I would like to see Fitzgibbon and AJ do well, if we think they are going to get better with their hands it does not augur well. You've either got it or you haven't & the nerves excuse should be past it by now after a few games. Their confidence is shot to bits and when they stand back and let the ball bounce or stay way from the high ball, it's not hard to see why they do this a lot. In fairness to Allan, he did do one good take and then made a good run. If he could show that he can do this 90% of the time then that would give me much more confidence.

If you can't catch or tackle consistently, all the good stuff in attack can be nullified and can put the team on the wrong side of the ledger. Why is it that we are leaking so many points a game at first grade level? Somebody is not doing their job and it needs to be sorted.

Will Cini be exposed at NRL level? Possibly but he's quicker than people think and his numbers in attack have been impressive so he could slot onto the wing.

Unfortunately we don't have a lot of options. Cooper is not really a winger and if Joey wasn't there he wouldn't be scoring the tries he is. Hoffman is not a winger either and Tommy is still a centre in my books.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330166) said:
stick a fork in him he is done at this club
don't think we will see him again in first grade at tigers


Far too young to write off unlike the imposter Jennings who we had last year
 
@thaiger said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330230) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330168) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330076) said:
@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !



@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !

Totally disagree,

Cooper looks like Jennings#2, Cini looks sharp and nrl eligible.

But yes Fitzgibbon is 12-18 months away from first grade. Should possibly even be dropped to Ron Massey

Cini's defence will be found out as well as his lack of pace. Fitzgibbon has the natural ability to make it, all he requires is to learn his art in NSW Cup and for the coaching staff to be working with him.

OK - I'm going to throw my 2 bob's worth in here.

In 2019, Cini scored quite a few tries in JF (12 I think?) and showed a lot of speed at centre. His defence I have to say was below par. This year at fullback his defence does not seem as exposed but he has made an incredible number of metres each game so must be doing something right. His stats are quite strong.

Unfortunately, footballers who have bad hands when they are young rarely come good. Not sure if Ferguson has always had good hands until Sunday but he is in the twilight of his career & those torpedo bombs from AD would have tested almost anyone.

So as much as I would like to see Fitzgibbon and AJ do well, if we think they are going to get better with their hands it does not augur well. You've either got it or you haven't & the nerves excuse should be past it by now after a few games. Their confidence is shot to bits and when they stand back and let the ball bounce or stay way from the high ball, it's not hard to see why they do this a lot. In fairness to Allan, he did do one good take and then made a good run. If he could show that he can do this 90% of the time then that would give me much more confidence.

If you can't catch or tackle consistently, all the good stuff in attack can be nullified and can put the team on the wrong side of the ledger. Why is it that we are leaking so many points a game at first grade level? Somebody is not doing their job and it needs to be sorted.

Will Cini be exposed at NRL level? Possibly but he's quicker than people think and his numbers in attack have been impressive so he could slot onto the wing.

Unfortunately we don't have a lot of options. Cooper is not really a winger and if Joey wasn't there he wouldn't be scoring the tries he is. Hoffman is not a winger either and Tommy is still a centre in my books.

I recall a pretty useful Roosters' fullback, like Tedesco a Wests junior, who had particularly poor hands. Anyway he became a very safe player and Roosters' icon instrumental in getting Tedesco to the Roosters. His name was Anthony Minichiello. The point is players can improve and Fitzgibbon I understand had an athletics background so I am quite excited by him.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330263) said:
@thaiger said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330230) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330168) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330076) said:
@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !



@sleeve said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329904) said:
@rah53 said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329070) said:
Is there any positives to him being in the squad, that someone else in Reggie's can't do??

Cini not a chance, Cooper looks the real deal, but not eligble, Fitzgibbon miles away from 1st gde !

Totally disagree,

Cooper looks like Jennings#2, Cini looks sharp and nrl eligible.

But yes Fitzgibbon is 12-18 months away from first grade. Should possibly even be dropped to Ron Massey

Cini's defence will be found out as well as his lack of pace. Fitzgibbon has the natural ability to make it, all he requires is to learn his art in NSW Cup and for the coaching staff to be working with him.

OK - I'm going to throw my 2 bob's worth in here.

In 2019, Cini scored quite a few tries in JF (12 I think?) and showed a lot of speed at centre. His defence I have to say was below par. This year at fullback his defence does not seem as exposed but he has made an incredible number of metres each game so must be doing something right. His stats are quite strong.

Unfortunately, footballers who have bad hands when they are young rarely come good. Not sure if Ferguson has always had good hands until Sunday but he is in the twilight of his career & those torpedo bombs from AD would have tested almost anyone.

So as much as I would like to see Fitzgibbon and AJ do well, if we think they are going to get better with their hands it does not augur well. You've either got it or you haven't & the nerves excuse should be past it by now after a few games. Their confidence is shot to bits and when they stand back and let the ball bounce or stay way from the high ball, it's not hard to see why they do this a lot. In fairness to Allan, he did do one good take and then made a good run. If he could show that he can do this 90% of the time then that would give me much more confidence.

If you can't catch or tackle consistently, all the good stuff in attack can be nullified and can put the team on the wrong side of the ledger. Why is it that we are leaking so many points a game at first grade level? Somebody is not doing their job and it needs to be sorted.

Will Cini be exposed at NRL level? Possibly but he's quicker than people think and his numbers in attack have been impressive so he could slot onto the wing.

Unfortunately we don't have a lot of options. Cooper is not really a winger and if Joey wasn't there he wouldn't be scoring the tries he is. Hoffman is not a winger either and Tommy is still a centre in my books.

I recall a pretty useful Roosters' fullback, like Tedesco a Wests junior, who had particularly poor hands. Anyway he became a very safe player and Roosters' icon instrumental in getting Tedesco to the Roosters. His name was Anthony Minichiello. The point is players can improve and Fitzgibbon I understand had an athletics background so I am quite excited by him.

Fair play - as I say though, exception rather than the rule.
 
@telltails said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330273) said:
AJ will be alright. Not the first young kid to drop back to develop his skills.

At least now we all know who the favourite is .
 
@geo said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329919) said:
@tigerlily said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329918) said:
@geo said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329916) said:
@tigerlily said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329915) said:
I wouldn’t say BJs done. But he definitely needs to go back into the NSWC system and ply his trade for about another 12-18 mths.

I just don’t think at this stage in his career BJ is up to the skill set that is required of an NRL winger he doesn’t seem to understand his mistakes and silly 1% plays are costing the club about 12 points a game.

Is BJ code for Kapaoa..

Thanks for pointing that Geo

that's good cause 1 BJ's enough..

Talking from experience ....??
 
@telltails said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1330273) said:
AJ will be alright. Not the first young kid to drop back to develop his skills.

I think he is a lot better centre than winger, hopefully he gets an opportunity to show his abilities there not just labelled a winger & forgotten.
 
@geo said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329919) said:
@tigerlily said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329918) said:
@geo said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329916) said:
@tigerlily said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329915) said:
I wouldn’t say BJs done. But he definitely needs to go back into the NSWC system and ply his trade for about another 12-18 mths.

I just don’t think at this stage in his career BJ is up to the skill set that is required of an NRL winger he doesn’t seem to understand his mistakes and silly 1% plays are costing the club about 12 points a game.

Is BJ code for Kapaoa..

Thanks for pointing that Geo

that's good cause 1 BJ's enough..

One BJ is never enough ?
 
@geo said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329919) said:
@tigerlily said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329918) said:
@geo said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329916) said:
@tigerlily said in [Kepaoa? Are we done with him yet?](/post/1329915) said:
I wouldn’t say BJs done. But he definitely needs to go back into the NSWC system and ply his trade for about another 12-18 mths.

that's good cause 1 BJ's enough..

Some would disagree
 
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