Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess

@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

My point is, are they direct quotes? Papers have been known to exaggerate before.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

I believe it is a fulltime role across the organisation but primarily focussed on pathways and mentoring.
 
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394842) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394837) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

Direct quotes from Pascoe and lee said his first job is recruitment first grade team

Link? I have been told his role is primarily pathways and mentoring across the organisation.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/06/05/tim-sheens-returns-to-wests-tigers-in-new-role/

They have Tim listed doing numerous roles.
2nd paragraph.
 
The term “floater” has me thinking Sheens will be communicating directly with players, recruitment, coaches, CEO, Chair and the bus driver, while his area of responsibility is pathways with Noddy reporting directly to him, and he reporting to the board.
I think his introduction could have been made a little clearer, but perhaps it was meant to agitate or fire up some?
 
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

The fact is we have conceded over 100 points in the last 2 games. It's abundantly clear we need help pretty desperately. If that's from Sheens, great, if not we need it from somewhere. We're digging ourselves a grave at the moment by maintaining the status quo. Big changes needed.
 
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394833) said:
@snake said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394814) said:
There is a whole group of individuals at this club now more interested in keeping there jobs.
KEY APPOINTMENTS an Old guy that has been out of the picture for a decade and a guy that has been here before and was not a very good coach !
Grabbing at straws here guys ..did I read it right our Chairman said the club needs a 5yr year plan ..does he really want to be taken seriously !
I very much doubt Maguire will be the coach next season and quite a few contracted players as well .
I am starting to read between the lines one of them is Flanagan has just knocked backed two coaching jobs in the ESL probably means nothing.
There certainly needs to be some Key Appointment changes just not the ones the club is pushing maybe the ones that have been in charge thats led to where this club finds its self ..that would be a start .
The clubs new moto
5 YEAR PLAN

When we stop blaming everything that is wrong with the club on Madge and start looking at what the players are producing, I think we will be better off?

Madge doesn't train them to miss tackles, drop catches or passes, walk up in defence and just lack effort or desire, they are just content to collect FG money. Contract lengths are killing us.

There are quite a few players imo who are living on borrowed time as a WT player, their efforts are just deplorable.

Perfect post. This 'F***ening' has been years in the making, starting with the old board and several coaches before Maguire came to coach. I'm not sure why people think this situation was ever a 6 game fix.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.
 
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394857) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

My point is, are they direct quotes? Papers have been known to exaggerate before.

Yeah true re-reading the paper is clear but club continues to be ambiguous
 
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

I wish the club would be as direct as the journalist

“But let’s cut to the chase: his first job will be to get into the club’s football program and find players who can help turn the club around.”
 
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

"Sheens guided the Tigers to the 2005 grand final win and has taken up a new role at the club overseeing recruitment, pathways, football administration and club culture.

@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

Clear as mud.


"Sheens guided the Tigers to the 2005 grand final win and has taken up a new role at the club overseeing recruitment, pathways, football administration and club culture".
 
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394879) said:
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

I wish the club would be as direct as the journalist

“But let’s cut to the chase: his first job will be to get into the club’s football program and find players who can help turn the club around.”

Those players may in fact be the juniors he is in charge of. But also, if they bring Sheens into discussions with potential new signings, why not? Same as if you had an aging Bennett or some other game statesman you'd bring them in. I bet Phil Gould joins chats with potential signings even though he's not the Warrior's main recruitment guy.

So in fact there is nothing from the club that says Sheens' first or primary job involves reshaping the first grade side.
 
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

Thanks mate, didn't have time to search for them.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394879) said:
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

I wish the club would be as direct as the journalist

“But let’s cut to the chase: his first job will be to get into the club’s football program and find players who can help turn the club around.”

No that isn't his 1st job
 
Head of Football Performance is a nice title, but I think Tim will be our executioner. It's an old company trick; employ a "consultant" who can be held responsible after he gets rid of the people you wanted to get rid of yourself. Madge gets to keep faith with the "sorry fella's, it's out of my hands" line, they cry on each other's shoulders and move on. We see the same thing on field every time the ref tells the indignant club captain to go away, it was the video ref's decision.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394879) said:
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394877) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394853) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

Ok mate ignore the fact that they were direct quotes from Pascoe and lee.

Pull the quotes mate, stop just saying "they said XYZ".

Here is Pascoe's quote in today's SMH
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/miracle-worker-required-sheens-new-job-just-got-a-lot-tougher-at-tigers-20210620-p582lf.html
>“His gravitas in the game is second to none,” Pascoe said. “His experience, knowledge and the fact he’s been in winning environments all helps. Him coming in and identifying talent, helping with that whole pathways and development program … you can see how valuable he’ll be.”

And Lee from the NRL website - this is the only article I can find on nrl.com, via Tigers website
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/06/05/wests-tigers-appoint-tim-sheens-as-head-of-football-performance/
>The appointment of Tim, coupled with the recent appointments in our pathways programs, affirms the Board’s commitment to engaging the best people who will add value to our organisation in promoting and developing the game of rugby league from grass roots to the elite level

There's nothing about Sheens being the recruitment person, except of course he'll have his mitts all over the juniors and they may bring him in to other work as well, giving him the "floating" capacity they mentioned.

I wish the club would be as direct as the journalist

“But let’s cut to the chase: his first job will be to get into the club’s football program and find players who can help turn the club around.”


Is that a quote of the journalist? If so....who cares what he thinks?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394869) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394848) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394843) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394840) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394838) said:
@tigerwest said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394835) said:
@cochise said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394823) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394812) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394791) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394786) said:
Does this mean hartigan will be sacked?

I hope not. He’s the one positive in the club at the moment

If sheens job is recruitment what’s hartigan job? If players are the issue he hasn’t been doing his job properly.

Doesn’t make sense isn’t sheens job what hartigan meant to be doing?

Sheens is pathways not recruitment

I don't understand why some people haven't grasped this yet?

Have u seen todays articles ?

Yes, that's newspapers trying to sell copy, for me, unless its on the WT site, its not happening? Do honestly think Hartigan would hang around if this was true?

Did you read it there were direct quotes in smh too. It’s fact sheens first job is to shape the first grade squad

"it's fact" because the SMH said so, doesn't really mean much to me. Things may change in the future, but it's not what he was originally signed up for?

The fact is we have conceded over 100 points in the last 2 games. It's abundantly clear we need help pretty desperately. If that's from Sheens, great, if not we need it from somewhere. We're digging ourselves a grave at the moment by maintaining the status quo. Big changes needed.

Prehaps we need to be rebranded into the bbl

As we r preety good at getting to half centuries easy lol
 
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394762) said:
@jrtiger said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394727) said:
two appointments made specifically for our pathways are going to remedy our issues in first grade?? put the flask away Buzz

In about 5-10 years, when his cirrhosis has ended him.

Buzz will be one of those muppets who will live to 90, just to spite everyone.

He'll have everything wrong with him under the sun, but will just keep hanging on like a dag on a sheep's arse.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394901) said:
@jirskyr said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394762) said:
@jrtiger said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394727) said:
two appointments made specifically for our pathways are going to remedy our issues in first grade?? put the flask away Buzz

In about 5-10 years, when his cirrhosis has ended him.

Buzz will be one of those muppets who will live to 90, just to spite everyone.

He'll have everything wrong with him under the sun, but will just keep hanging on like a dag on a sheep's arse.

As the saying goes, only the good die young.
 
@jrtiger said in [Key appointments aim to end Tigers mess](/post/1394727) said:
two appointments made specifically for our pathways are going to remedy our issues in first grade?? put the flask away Buzz

At least it’s a positive article about us for once. I was totally expecting him to put the boot in like he always does. He must finally be softening under all that alcohol.
 

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