Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12

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Western Suburbs Magpies Knock-On Effect NSW Cup coach Ben Gardiner has named a strong line-up for their Round 12 clash against St George Illawarra at Lidcombe Oval.

Halfback Jock Madden and hooker Jake Simpkin have been selected for Saturday’s clash, while forward Tuki Simpkins returns to the starting side with Tom Amone being named in the first grade lineup.

The Magpies will be aiming for nine-straight wins when they run out at Lidcombe Oval on Saturday.

WESTERN SUBURBS MAGPIES
1. Zac Cini
2. Allan Fitzgibbon
3. Reece Hoffman
4. Junior Pauga
5. Kiah Cooper
6. Billy Walters
7. Jock Madden
8. Tuki Simpkins
9. Jake Simpkin
10. Stefano Utoikamanu
11. Michael Chee Kam
12. Kelma Tuilagi
13. Tom Freebairn

Interchange:
14. Zach Dockar-Clay
15.Israel Ogden
16. Austin Dias
17. Joseph Taipari
18. Edene Gebbie

Coach: Ben Gardiner
 
Strong team. Anyone know what has happened to Musgrove? Don't know whether he's injured or whether there is something more to it.
 
@willow said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1372775) said:
Strong team. Anyone know what has happened to Musgrove? Don't know whether he's injured or whether there is something more to it.

Maybe he has the Russell Packer "mystery injury". I remember Packer was gone for months in no teams without any update from the club.
 
@willow said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1372775) said:
Strong team. Anyone know what has happened to Musgrove? Don't know whether he's injured or whether there is something more to it.

Huge disappointment, one of Madge’s decisions I can’t reconcile.
 
@willow said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1372775) said:
Strong team. Anyone know what has happened to Musgrove? Don't know whether he's injured or whether there is something more to it.

Maybe they have done a deal with the judiciary & dropped him for future Send Off offences to come?
 
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373097) said:
Walters over Docker Clay is interesting. Not surprising but the Docker Clay for first grade mob may be disappointed.

He has been playing well. Don't get that unless it's about making Walters more attractive to the Donkeys.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373297) said:
Does anyone actually think this team will lineup like this? With 4/5 benchies being backs? No chance.

Good point. Hedging on a few things I think. JTJ's health may still be an issue which would put Cooper in firsts and if there was a Walter's swap to Brisbane perhaps they'd bring ZDC in. You'd think Musgrove would at least be on the bench.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373302) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373297) said:
Does anyone actually think this team will lineup like this? With 4/5 benchies being backs? No chance.

Good point. Hedging on a few things I think. JTJ's health may still be an issue which would put Cooper in firsts and if there was a Walter's swap to Brisbane perhaps they'd bring ZDC in. You'd think Musgrove would at least be on the bench.

Surely Cini (he deserves another chance) or Ogden would come in on the wing before Cooper. Far too slow & with questionable defence (refer last week's highlights). Good on him for scoring those tries but let's be honest, most were very basic. He might be a centre but at the next level it's never going to happen on the wing. Kei seems to be injured to me or based on last year's limited showing he would be also considered. Fitzgibbon seems to be going along alright too and would be a better bet.
 
@thaiger said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373339) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373302) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373297) said:
Does anyone actually think this team will lineup like this? With 4/5 benchies being backs? No chance.

Good point. Hedging on a few things I think. JTJ's health may still be an issue which would put Cooper in firsts and if there was a Walter's swap to Brisbane perhaps they'd bring ZDC in. You'd think Musgrove would at least be on the bench.

Surely Cini (he deserves another chance) or Ogden would come in on the wing before Cooper. Far too slow & with questionable defence (refer last week's highlights). Good on him for scoring those tries but let's be honest, most were very basic. He might be a centre but at the next level it's never going to happen on the wing. Kei seems to be injured to me or based on last year's limited showing he would be also considered. Fitzgibbon seems to be going along alright too and would be a better bet.

Oh I agree, I would go w Cini atm too but Cooper is on the extended bench for firsts, that's the only reason why I said that.
 
@thaiger said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373339) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373302) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373297) said:
Does anyone actually think this team will lineup like this? With 4/5 benchies being backs? No chance.

Good point. Hedging on a few things I think. JTJ's health may still be an issue which would put Cooper in firsts and if there was a Walter's swap to Brisbane perhaps they'd bring ZDC in. You'd think Musgrove would at least be on the bench.

Surely Cini (he deserves another chance) or Ogden would come in on the wing before Cooper. Far too slow & with questionable defence (refer last week's highlights). Good on him for scoring those tries but let's be honest, most were very basic. He might be a centre but at the next level it's never going to happen on the wing. Kei seems to be injured to me or based on last year's limited showing he would be also considered. Fitzgibbon seems to be going along alright too and would be a better bet.

Fitzgibbon needs 12 months at least in reserve grade. He is a very large project. He's growing better by the week but still needs some time. Agree with you though, Cooper is certainly not a winger. Unfortunately this shows how much we're struggling for depth on the wing. Nofoaluma is the only player in our top 30 that is actually a winger. Talau and Kepaoa are not. No wonder we've been after Isaako for the past few months.
 
@thaiger said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373339) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373302) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373297) said:
Does anyone actually think this team will lineup like this? With 4/5 benchies being backs? No chance.

Good point. Hedging on a few things I think. JTJ's health may still be an issue which would put Cooper in firsts and if there was a Walter's swap to Brisbane perhaps they'd bring ZDC in. You'd think Musgrove would at least be on the bench.

Surely Cini (he deserves another chance) or Ogden would come in on the wing before Cooper. Far too slow & with questionable defence (refer last week's highlights). Good on him for scoring those tries but let's be honest, most were very basic. He might be a centre but at the next level it's never going to happen on the wing. Kei seems to be injured to me or based on last year's limited showing he would be also considered. Fitzgibbon seems to be going along alright too and would be a better bet.

I don't understand or like why Cooper is on the bench. He's really done nothing to deserve getting called up ahead of others. If Jtj is out Talau will go to and Cooper to Centre. He's solid, decent front in defence but slow, and this hinders his attack and defence, and poor under the high ball.

There's probably a few injuries lingering around in the squad. Expect changes
 
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373568) said:
@thaiger said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373339) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373302) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 12](/post/1373297) said:
Does anyone actually think this team will lineup like this? With 4/5 benchies being backs? No chance.

Good point. Hedging on a few things I think. JTJ's health may still be an issue which would put Cooper in firsts and if there was a Walter's swap to Brisbane perhaps they'd bring ZDC in. You'd think Musgrove would at least be on the bench.

Surely Cini (he deserves another chance) or Ogden would come in on the wing before Cooper. Far too slow & with questionable defence (refer last week's highlights). Good on him for scoring those tries but let's be honest, most were very basic. He might be a centre but at the next level it's never going to happen on the wing. Kei seems to be injured to me or based on last year's limited showing he would be also considered. Fitzgibbon seems to be going along alright too and would be a better bet.

I don't understand or like why Cooper is on the bench. He's really done nothing to deserve getting called up ahead of others. If Jtj is out Talau will go to and Cooper to Centre. He's solid, decent front in defence but slow, and this hinders his attack and defence, and poor under the high ball.

There's probably a few injuries lingering around in the squad. Expect changes

I actually like Cooper he knows how to get across the line, has good hands and is reliable if not possessing a blistering pace. It might have something to do with Indigenous Round. The return of JTJ on the wing - helps to sell the Indig jerseys.
 
Final team
1. Z.Cini
2. A.Fitzgibbon
3. R.Hoffman
4. J.Pauga
5. K.Cooper
6. B.Walters
7. J.Madden
8. T.Simpkins
9. J.Simpkin
10. S.Utoikamanu
11. M.Chee Kam
12. K.Tuilagi
19. T.Amone

13. T.Freebairn
14. Z.Dockar-Clay
16. A.Dias
24. D.Sykes

17. J.Taipari
 

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