OFFICIAL Lachlan Galvin #277 *Released* Career Discussion.

[Needaname]

Bird is our Wadr Graham at the moment - Galvin could be in the future if he stays.

It’s interesting you know that we’ve recruited Bird as a utility and some experience in the side.
Funnily Bird was in exactly the same place as Galvin was 10 years ago as the young ‘could be anything’ footballer that wasn’t quite a half but just had to be on the field.
I wonder if LG has picked his brain a bit as to how he adapted to other positions as he was gradually replaced as a half option.

Could long term Galvin become our Bird?

 

[Needaname]

What are your thoughts on possibly having either Latu or Galvin defending as a centre, but in attack having Luai, Galvin and Latu combining as our 1,6 & 7 with Bula reverting to the centres in attack ?
That was my initial thoughts, but I do like the look of Bula’s attack so far this season and he no doubt has much more to give, so I’m not as keen on taking him away from fullback in attack anymore,
However I do think a 1,6 & 7 attacking combination of Luai, Galvin and Latu would be very difficult to contain for opposing teams.

I don’t mind this. To’a would be the odd one out with Galvin or Latu taking the right centre spot in defence.
Bula spends a lot of time wide of the ruck but his kick defence / returns are his best asset in our half.
What would need to change though is when in the opposing half, one of the three halves would need to hang around the ruck and provide an outlet for any offloads off the forwards.
It could actually be all three given our position on the field. That would put less pressure on Bula to be all over the field and allow him to sit at the right centre position in attack as a go to threat out wide.

 

[Needaname]

I wonder as my memory isn’t that crash hot if Bird actually played the way we are suggesting for Galvin in 2016 after moving from 5/8 due to Maloney joining the side?
Can anyone recall if he played as a pigeon holed centre or floated a bit around the field in attack?

 

[JC99]

But is he worth it, or is it another Brooks
scenario where we jumped in and then carried that problem for some years.
Galvins a talent, but he’s not going to deliver if he hasn’t got good teammates around him. Where do we draw the line ?

He played great footy last year, at 18 years old, in the worst team in the comp

He's a 5/8 - he's got Luai and Korisau leading the team around. He can just play footy. Completely different to Brooks, who the club always tried to make a halfback.

 

[JC99]

This constant chat of moving Galvin in to the forwards - not one part of his game has indicated that he is capable of doing that right now, besides the fact he's tall

He's got pretty average leg speed and he doesn't play direct at all. You lose all of his playmaking ability if you hold him to the middle of the field. He's also not that great in contact

Maybe one day he'll play there, but it's easily 5+ years away. This forum has a terrible having of wanting to play guys out of position constantly.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Latu is an out and out half. I don't care what number they wear but I prefer him and Luai orchestrating the play, and Galvin and Bula give a double threat on sweep plays, pushing up on either side of the forwards for offloads, and even become better decoys as these two will attract a lot of attention.

 

[liltiger]

Sounds like you’re wiping him before he’s even made a decision.
As for giving Fainu his spot just to see how he goes…. can you name me any other club that drops a spine player from first grade just to see how another bloke goes?

I'm wiping him if he says he's going to test the market if we offer the kid a 5 year 5 million dollar deal, if he wanted to stay he'd sign straight away.

 

[twentyforty]

Latu should be our 7, luai our 6, and Galvin 13. Latu straightened our attack and took the line on more in 20 minutes then Galvin has all year .

That makes sense doesn’t it. Benji sees it differently though, with our 13 as predominantly a defender and our 6 playing off the 7 which is dulling the 7’s attack. I thought we got Luai to run the team from 7.
Benji needs to move Galvin to 13, Latu 7 and Luai 6 and play the halves each side, therefore giving Luai more freedom.

 

[rugbygoated]

That’s fairly wild tbh … he’s had a massive impact on his team mates and I don’t think we’ve had this much fan fare as a group since peak benji

We are easily 1 or 2 plays away from having 4 straight wins and you think he’s offered absolutely nothing?

Those 1-2 plays where we could have won is where he should step up. As the 1.2 million dollar half or 'Batman'. Sadly he is and always will be a Robin, he's a Robin to a 19 year old lol. It will never change. We were leading both games vs knights and warriors and in the last 20 minutes he didn't step up at all. It might take till mid season or later in the season before you guys realise what a waste of money it is, considering how good latu and galvin will be, and where we could spend that money on centres or another 2nd rower

 

[twentyforty]

This constant chat of moving Galvin in to the forwards - not one part of his game has indicated that he is capable of doing that right now, besides the fact he's tall

He's got pretty average leg speed and he doesn't play direct at all. You lose all of his playmaking ability if you hold him to the middle of the field. He's also not that great in contact

Maybe one day he'll play there, but it's easily 5+ years away. This forum has a terrible having of wanting to play guys out of position constantly.

I thought he played back row in his junior footy? Here’s the thing, everyone wants to play 7, 6 or 1, that’s where the money is. 😝

 

[weststigerman]

The Galvin vs Fainu thing is interesting and I think everyone wants Fainu to be the better player given Galvin’s likelihood of leaving. Also the fact that Fainu has only been seen in small doses in First grade.

IMO Fainu has a bit more talent, but Galvin is going to get every inch out of his potential over the next few years. I’m not yet convinced that Fainu has that same work ethic. Galvin is a sure thing, while Fainu is a “could be”.

There is a reason why Fainu hasn’t been able to unseat Galvin and the media are all over Galvin while Fainu barely gets spoken about.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

The Galvin vs Fainu thing is interesting and I think everyone wants Fainu to be the better player given Galvin’s likelihood of leaving. Also the fact that Fainu has only been seen in small doses in First grade.

IMO Fainu has a bit more talent, but Galvin is going to get every inch out of his potential over the next few years. I’m not yet convinced that Fainu has that same work ethic. Galvin is a sure thing, while Fainu is a “could be”.

There is a reason why Fainu hasn’t been able to unseat Galvin and the media are all over Galvin while Fainu barely gets spoken about.

Who knows what would have happened if Latu had not been injured at the start of last year. Galvin got a rails run to start and has kept his nose just far enough in front so far.
Latu is no worse off than any other upcoming half waiting for injury/suspension to show his wares
Much like at Melbourne hynes and wishart the most recent

 

[Jolls]

I wonder as my memory isn’t that crash hot if Bird actually played the way we are suggesting for Galvin in 2016 after moving from 5/8 due to Maloney joining the side?
Can anyone recall if he played as a pigeon holed centre or floated a bit around the field in attack?

Bird trained all off season as fullback and made a positive start there before being shuffled to centre to make room for Ben Barba - similar situation to us I expect - just not being a halves dilemma. Bird has been a victim of his own skill set whcih has found him filling gaps for the majority of his career.

No other team, that I am aware of, has executed what is proposed. The closest is QLD SOO running three halves at the expense of a specialist hooker to get some momentum off the back of a dominant pack. In this case there was not the requirement for the subtelty of skill set of a specialist hooker, the track was pretty firm and the change was made late in the half when the specialst had worn down the defence and they were open for exploitation by a quick half. Saints certainly used Hunt in this fashion, but played him the 80, under Hook. so he was in effect a specialist in the hooker position - just played it a little different too Api for example. They were at the bottom of the table with us for a number of reasons, wasting Hunt at 9 during the week to week grind of club footy was probably one of them.

While what is proposed would beworkable the key issues that need to be considered are the second and third order effect fo such as move. How would the balance be maintained in attack; does the other centre float as well to enable it or is the double sweep only used on one side? As I mentioned previously this sin't something that can be done in a week. Potentially in attack you could have Galvin playing a short fullback and Bula a deep fullback with Galvin sweeping in centre on right side plays and floating on left. The balance and thinking required, under duress, are the unanswered questions.

My personal view is that it is too complicated and you would simply play Galvin at centre and the double sweep would be a left side play that we pull out of the bag as required. It would keep the defence on its toes and if they try to match Galvin's movements would potentially fall apart later in the game due to fitness issues or confusion in their defensive structures.

 

[Tigerstigerstigers]

I think Luke luuali is in the team to stay. With one of him, Skelton and surava shifting to centres . (Unless we have an injury at fullback or wing , then it sorts itself out). That being the case , I can’t see latu or Galvin shifting to centres.
Why can’t latu play a Yeo style role with Galvin right and Romey both centre and left similar to the panthers structure last season.
Latu can defend wide swapping around with bird who plays second row off the bench

 

[Jolls]

I think Luke luuali is in the team to stay. With one of him, Skelton and surava shifting to centres . (Unless we have an injury at fullback or wing , then it sorts itself out). That being the case , I can’t see latu or Galvin shifting to centres.
Why can’t latu play a Yeo style role with Galvin right and Romey both centre and left similar to the panthers structure last season.
Latu can defend wide swapping around with bird who plays second row off the bench

That is the Wade Graham/Yeo option and would be workable. The iddue really being the risk given we already can't dominate the ruck with bigger bodies at 13.

That isn't what was proposed though. The concept was a left and right 5/8 in Latu and Galvin with Romey directing the play and floating from side to side.

 

[Tigerstigerstigers]

That is the Wade Graham/Yeo option and would be workable. The iddue really being the risk given we already can't dominate the ruck with bigger bodies at 13.

That isn't what was proposed though. The concept was a left and right 5/8 in Latu and Galvin with Romey directing the play and floating from side to side.

I think our issue in the middle is we need another aggressive big bopper that sees Twal a fringe first grader. On the edge we need another second rower to push Seyfarth to the bench. Would love to get big Nelson to come in until Kit is ready .. to me he looks a season off being a regular but will get there

 

[tonza]

Looking back at the Warriors game their bench killed ours.
Two of their tries were a direct result of us having small guys unable to control the ruck.
Latu holds his own in defence and that’s good.
For the next game I’d probably lean to Latu as left centre. That way you can play the formation you are suggesting. Possibly if Sam F is out, Bird is at left Backrow.
Early ball from Luai and Latu should capitalise on the space available outwide with his speed, footwork and power.
He might be an out and out half; but he is probably at this moment our most important impact player going forwards.

I agree. Their bench killed ours. We were forced into having only 2 forwards on the bench. When Fainu went down, we only had Hunt to cover the rest of the forwards. Our forwards were gassed, and we lost that game in the last 15 minutes due to fatigue. The Warriors are a very big and strong side and we did well to keep them to 2 points difference.

 

[cktiger]

I'm wiping him if he says he's going to test the market if we offer the kid a 5 year 5 million dollar deal, if he wanted to stay he'd sign straight away.

Well, we haven't offered anything yet.

 

[cktiger]

The Galvin vs Fainu thing is interesting and I think everyone wants Fainu to be the better player given Galvin’s likelihood of leaving. Also the fact that Fainu has only been seen in small doses in First grade.

IMO Fainu has a bit more talent, but Galvin is going to get every inch out of his potential over the next few years. I’m not yet convinced that Fainu has that same work ethic. Galvin is a sure thing, while Fainu is a “could be”.

There is a reason why Fainu hasn’t been able to unseat Galvin and the media are all over Galvin while Fainu barely gets spoken about.

Came back to training this year overweight... not the best look but maybe also a wake up call for the kid.
On Galvin... he's already proven he's a real first grader and Fainu will get his chance.
Would be great to have both in the team with JL driving them... let's hope it can somehow happen.

 

[innsaneink]

But is he worth it, or is it another Brooks
scenario where we jumped in and then carried that problem for some years.
Galvins a talent, but he’s not going to deliver if he hasn’t got good teammates around him. Where do we draw the line ?

I immediately thought of players around him/recruitment reading the first line of your post
re: Good team mates.
We can only go on what weve seen this year recruitment wise and Id give that an A+ to Benji & Richo, as long as this positive recruitment remains for the next few years I dont see why all our young developing players including Galvin cant benefit and improve as the team does.
Big change from the Brooks scenario - hopefully