Would love to see it if Latu progresses as most think.
If Galvin is happy to do so what you suggest and we can offer him good money we are on a winner... but don't forget he'll be offered BIG money by other clubs to stay in the halves.
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If Galvin is happy to do so what you suggest and we can offer him good money we are on a winner... but don't forget he'll be offered BIG money by other clubs to stay in the halves.
BlackWhiteGold
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The ideal scenario for us long-term is Galvin commits and continues to progress in the halves with Romey.
Latu transitions into our starting lock as he builds his fitness & strength. His size is no problem as he can easily add a few more kegs of muscle in pre-season & he is reportedly an excellent wrestler on the mat. IMO he can become one of the best locks in the game with the assets he has and still warrant good $$$.
The reason most definitely isnt your opinion.
More likely because Galvin was the next cab off the rank after the Brooks -> Manly BS media fest
The fact he played an entire season on debut, shouldve got rookie of the year, and has a mangager who know how to get his clients name in the media
I actually think there is a way to do it without changing too much of the structure but just swapping a couple of positions at various stages of the game.
Someone has already mentioned it so I won’t take the credit but I think the answer lies within the positional flexibility of Bird. Given that it is because Bird was played at centre vs the Wahs that we even got a look in at Latu in the middle.
There is one casualty and that is TDS once Api regains full match fitness and it could effectively work by having Bird come on as he usually does around the 20 min mark and playing through the middle. At some point probably not around the same time as TDS currently comes on for Api but maybe about 5mins or so into the second half I would move Bird out to right backrow and bring Seyfarth into prop making way for Latu to come in as the Middle forward / half.
Someone has already mentioned it so I won’t take the credit but I think the answer lies within the positional flexibility of Bird. Given that it is because Bird was played at centre vs the Wahs that we even got a look in at Latu in the middle.
There is one casualty and that is TDS once Api regains full match fitness and it could effectively work by having Bird come on as he usually does around the 20 min mark and playing through the middle. At some point probably not around the same time as TDS currently comes on for Api but maybe about 5mins or so into the second half I would move Bird out to right backrow and bring Seyfarth into prop making way for Latu to come in as the Middle forward / half.
liltiger
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I understand, my point is eventually we will, if he decides to go to market then he's leaving. Why waste any more time developing a half for another team while we've got Latu patiently waiting for his chance for consistent football in the halves.
Kelce68
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Why?
He's on good coin. He's in a system with his brothers who are all getting game time and are being paid well. in 4 years, he'll be 23, just coming into his early prime years and Luai will be wrapping up his contract (if not before). He's happy and he (hopefully) will have a position to carve out moving forward. That may be in the halves after all if Galvin grows out of the position, or, who's to say he can't reinvent the lock position ala Yeo?
But most importantly, how many of the best players of the last 25 years were above a positional change?
- Thurston played 5/8th to accommodate Cronk in the best Origin side of all time.
- Johns played hooker to accommodate Kimmorley.
- Cam Smith played halfback for numerous occasions when needed for Melbourne.
- Turbo has moved to centre at rep level and is a fair chance for Manly moving forward.
- Carrigan has moved to prop despite being a (mostly) career-lock.
Fittler, Daley, Stuart, the list goes on.
All these players and more have history of playing multiple positions and, more specifically, playing out of their 'best' position to suit the team, either at club or representative level.
I'm not saying the risk of Latu moving on isn't considerable if we manage to lock Galvin in long-term, but it would be FAR from stupid for Latu to stay from his perspective, there is still plenty of positives from his perspective.
Betterdays22
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I think Latu and Luai would actually compliment each other really well in the halves... I love how Latu consistently straightens up the attack.
Galvin is more suited to centre than Latu. I beat the centre drum when he first debuted. If it was going to happen it should of happened then, but there is no chance in hell it happens now.
orange&black
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I think i heard Benji say that Latu was too good for reggies and they are working on how they fit Latu, Galvin and Luai into the team. He admits that they have some fine tuning to do in this regard so I am sure they are onto it. Early days, so I’m just letting the guys who know more than me work on the best solution.
Happily agree unless he’s playing really well and we’re in the running for a semi final.
I think the same could be said of Galvin, especially when he fills out
jirskyr
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I don't agree with the commentary around Brown at all.
If the guy up your street gets a crazy price for your house, that's nice, but it doesn't mean that everyone else in the street can now ask for the same money and that other buyers will be compelled to be offering crazy money.
Knights wanted Dylan Brown, they were desperate to make it happen and they've offered huge money. That does not automatically confer onto all other halves in the comp, especially because Brown is not a proven winner nor a rep player.
jirskyr
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That is a super big and EARLY call
WesternSuburbsBoy
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Honestly I'm completely against handing Galvin this massive contract for two reasons.
1. He has done nothing in the game yet to earn these sorts of dollars. He has had a brilliant start to his career no doubt but handing a guy who hasn't even played 30 games yet a 5 year deal & paying him over a mill a season is just a recipe for disaster especially when there's long term doubts as to if his best position is in the halves or not.
2. We are putting an incredible amount of pressure on a 19 year old to live up to all these expectations that will come with the price tag & the deal he is signing.... what happened the last time we paid someone a shit tonne of money based on potential?
1. He has done nothing in the game yet to earn these sorts of dollars. He has had a brilliant start to his career no doubt but handing a guy who hasn't even played 30 games yet a 5 year deal & paying him over a mill a season is just a recipe for disaster especially when there's long term doubts as to if his best position is in the halves or not.
2. We are putting an incredible amount of pressure on a 19 year old to live up to all these expectations that will come with the price tag & the deal he is signing.... what happened the last time we paid someone a shit tonne of money based on potential?
It’s hard not to agree with that WesternSuburbsBoy.
I’m a big fan of the kid, he’s already one of our most high profile players and it would be a disaster to lose him, but I just cannot see 1 million dollars per season of value in him just yet.
If we pay him 1 million in addition to the 1.2 million for Luai, plus 500k for each of Latu and Sullivan, that ends up being 3.2 of cap space just on our halves and only 2 of them can be starting players at any one time.
It makes it very difficult to have a strong team around them based off those figures.
Obviously if we can somehow offload Sullivan without having to contribute to his contract it makes it a lot better, but hard to see that happening at the moment,
Kelce68
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You can most definitely manufacture a centre.
I reckon it’s highly likely that’s how the club ideally sees it moving forward, it would be very interesting to know what Latu’s thoughts would be on that scenario?
It’s a very tricky situation as Latu is no doubt the classiest and most damaging ball runner of all 3, so you could say that’s why he would be so well suited to playing 13, but in his mind he might be thinking why am I the one pushed out of the halves?
The other issue is the fitness levels which is where Latu reportedly struggles, therefore that will likely need a lot of improvement before he’s capable of playing anymore than 30-40 strong minutes as a 13 defending in the middle. I think we really need to somehow protect him from doing too much defending to allow his sharpness in attack to flourish.
Could a possibility of Bird being named to play as a centre, we continue with a bigger body such as Twal playing 13 for the first 20 minutes, but then bring Latu on to play 13 in attack, but protect him by pushing him wider when defending and possibly bringing Bird in from the centres to defend at 13 work?
I know it sounds like a lot of mucking about and may not work for that reason, but if trying to fit Latu into our team on a regular basis and ideally not allow him to get too fatigued from a high defensive workload, that’s the best scenario I can think of.
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dont think it’s going to be 5+ years until we see him at 2nd row or lock. Just watch how much he will fill out in the next couple years as he goes into his early 20’s. He played his debut season as a kid, realistically at most other clubs he wouldn’t have even seen consistent 1st grade yet. I like the idea of him being a ball playing lock with Fainu at 5/8
Kelce68
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The thing about Galvin's next deal is that whether it's us or someone else, he will, in all likelihood, be offered a contract well-above his true value at the moment.
So the outcomes aren't that much of a mystery. For me, there's basically two.
Either we stump up the cash and take a gamble on one of the most impressive young kids to come through in decades, or, we check, and allow another team to raise and do the exact, same thing.
He'll be on overs for the next few years regardless.
His next contract could be overs for it's duration if he plateaus or, it could end up being unders if his development continues well and he starts becoming majorly influential in the outcome of games.
Whether we think he's worth it or not, or whether he has shown enough yet or whether he deserves it, is neither here or there. He'll get the money.
Either we take the gamble or we don't.
I prefer to hold the cards and dictate terms, so I'm taking that risk.
So the outcomes aren't that much of a mystery. For me, there's basically two.
Either we stump up the cash and take a gamble on one of the most impressive young kids to come through in decades, or, we check, and allow another team to raise and do the exact, same thing.
He'll be on overs for the next few years regardless.
His next contract could be overs for it's duration if he plateaus or, it could end up being unders if his development continues well and he starts becoming majorly influential in the outcome of games.
Whether we think he's worth it or not, or whether he has shown enough yet or whether he deserves it, is neither here or there. He'll get the money.
Either we take the gamble or we don't.
I prefer to hold the cards and dictate terms, so I'm taking that risk.
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tig_prmz
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Latu is more skillful, but Galvin is fitter and to me a lot more competitive.
I am not sure who will gel more with Luai though.
I am not sure who will gel more with Luai though.
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