I can see what Madge is trying to do with this team...he has plenty of youth mixed with experience,its just whats needed to form a strong stable team...once these guys stop making dumb mistakes, giving away stupid penalties,developing discipline and control they will no longer be constantly on the back foot having to defend for 75% of the game...the attack will come and they will be on the front foot developing their attacking structures to put them in a far better scoring position than having to tackle their butts off to defend the errors...once they grasp the fact that defending for long periods takes its toll and the attack falters they will be a far better team in the long run....I think they will improve a lot in the coming weeks,especially when Hastings,AD,TT and AJ get back in the side....dont forget 0/4 should have been 2/4 except for errors and dumb penalties...luck surely has to come their way soon,some fairer reffing would be handy also,,,,