I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.
Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did
Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.
He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.
more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin
Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.
Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....
TT it is my turn.
I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.
"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.
Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.
Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.
Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).
Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.
I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.
Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.
Russ has a crush
As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.
Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.
Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.
Ok I don’t care
Yeah, that makes sense, as you were bothered enough to write that @Russell has a crush and then reply again.
Well old man I don’t understand why u people are still coming fora 19 who isn’t even in the team at the moment you boyfriend Lids is starting 9 and is about simpkin atm but there is a difference between 5 games and 50 I don’t know what you expect he’s
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I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.
Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did
Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.
He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.
more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin
Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.
Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....
TT it is my turn.
I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.
"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.
Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.
Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.
Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).
Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.
I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.
Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.
Russ has a crush
As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.
Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.
Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.
Ok I don’t care
Yeah, that makes sense, as you were bothered enough to write that @Russell has a crush and then reply again.
Well old man I’m sick of you people bagging a 19 year old rookie who has played 6 cup games and 5 nrl games in his career no footy last year compared to liddles 50 nrl games. We have two great hookers one is still learning and one has played for 5 years and I rate him but there is no need to bag simpkin for making a few mistakes when there’s others on the team who make way more but don’t get dropped
Assuming you are a kid or young man from that statement, care to point out where you even think I may have commented similarly to that which you have accused?
If you want to include someone as one of "you people" it would be appropriate to make sure that said person deserves to be labelled
