Liddle

@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1377640) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1376219) said:
@formerguest said in [Liddle](/post/1376164) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1375892) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Russ has a crush

As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.

Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.

Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.

Ok I don’t care

Obviously a Simpkin fanboy! Can't see the forest for the trees.

I wouldn't take it personal, it seems Loserz loves a dribble.
 
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)


Pepe the frog isnt a neo nazi symbol, it was a joke by trolls on 8chan to trigger lefties. It was an intentional troll and lives on in posts like yours.
 
@jai_donaldson said in [Liddle](/post/1377641) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1377640) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1376219) said:
@formerguest said in [Liddle](/post/1376164) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1375892) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Russ has a crush

As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.

Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.

Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.

Ok I don’t care

Obviously a Simpkin fanboy! Can't see the forest for the trees.

I wouldn't take it personal, it seems Loserz loves a dribble.



@jai_donaldson said in [Liddle](/post/1377641) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1377640) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1376219) said:
@formerguest said in [Liddle](/post/1376164) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1375892) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Russ has a crush

As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.

Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.

Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.

Ok I don’t care

Obviously a Simpkin fanboy! Can't see the forest for the trees.

I wouldn't take it personal, it seems Loserz loves a dribble.


@jai_donaldson said in [Liddle](/post/1377641) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1377640) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1376219) said:
@formerguest said in [Liddle](/post/1376164) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1375892) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Russ has a crush

As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.

Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.

Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.

Ok I don’t care

Obviously a Simpkin fanboy! Can't see the forest for the trees.

I wouldn't take it personal, it seems Loserz loves a dribble.
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1377640) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1376219) said:
@formerguest said in [Liddle](/post/1376164) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1375892) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Russ has a crush

As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.

Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.

Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.

Ok I don’t care

Obviously a Simpkin fanboy! Can't see the forest for the trees.
Obviously a liddle fanboy! Can’t see the forest for the trees.
 
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)

Never heard of Aesop's fables?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Liddle](/post/1377652) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)


Pepe the frog isnt a neo nazi symbol, it was a joke by trolls on 8chan to trigger lefties. It was an intentional troll and lives on in posts like yours.

Bit like the ok symbol then haha
 
@tilllindemann said in [Liddle](/post/1377703) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Liddle](/post/1377652) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)


Pepe the frog isnt a neo nazi symbol, it was a joke by trolls on 8chan to trigger lefties. It was an intentional troll and lives on in posts like yours.

Bit like the ok symbol then haha


Pretty much
 
I think Jacob will keep improving and not only be our starting hooker,he will also be one of our defensive bests..Simpkin will also be a very good hooker but still needs more time to hone his craft...12/18 months he will be as good as Jacob...
 
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1377640) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1376219) said:
@formerguest said in [Liddle](/post/1376164) said:
@loserz said in [Liddle](/post/1375892) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372442) said:
@truetiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372400) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372366) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1372163) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1372006) said:
@851 said in [Liddle](/post/1371988) said:
@russell said in [Liddle](/post/1371979) said:
I am more worried about the Club having any loyalty to him.

Love your passion Russ, but the club have shown this kid more than enough loyalty, any other club would have cut him loose years back with his injury record, not re-signed him like they did

Loyalty works both ways - they have to give him the opportunity to show loyalty back.

He only has maybe 7-8 years left, he has to look after himself - a lousy 1 year is a joke. If they can't see he is the best DH in the club at the moment they don't deserve him. Would think Robbo is keeping an eye.

more like robbo will be keeping an eye on simpkin

Yes, you maybe right - he likes the way he stands with hands on hips instead of defending. Says he'll be good in the Rorters RMC.

Russ in my honest opinion.Liddle has had a fair bit of NRL experience compared to Simpkin,even though his development was halted through injury,he was touted the heir to Robbies throne...
Simpkin was signed because they saw huge potential in the kid....The club should be glad they have both these players,they both are talented and Simpkin is still learning his trade,Liddle will only get better at his in the not to distant future....

TT it is my turn.

I sat back for a month and watched Simpkin very closely and I would say impartially. Many and I say many raved on for weeks when Liddle played the first five games of the season and rubbished him, "his defence is terrible," "his passing is very slow," "he is quick but doesn't run from DH," "He can't play 80 min," "he is injury prone" and so on and so on.

"Simpkin needs to be given a chance," "he's the next Harry Grant," "the kids a star," "won't be long before he is a SOO hooker," "this guy has been ripping it up in Reggies, needs to be in the NRL instead of Liddle" and so on and so on.

Well, from what I saw (don't care if he played 3 games or 50 in the NRL or how old he is 19 as opposed to the ancient Liddle at 24), and I am judging him NOW - not after 50 games, because people want him in the team NOW, not in 50 games time.

Verdict - currently he is not as good as Liddle, he has too many things to work on, to even be on the bench. Standing around with hands on his hips after passing the ball from DH and watching play and then just jogging to the PTB after the next one is not on. Hogging the ball and going himself, when there was an overlap and we could have scored had the ball gone through the hands. Invariably choosing the wrong option at DH is frustrating to other players to say the least. Defence is very ordinary. loves being third man in to up the figures.

Yes he was signed because he had potential. he hasn't reached anywhere near NRL level AT THIS POINT, needs to learn his trade first, before applying same trade in the NRL. (The NRL is not a pre-school).

Yes I defend Liddle - he needs someone to speak up for him, even though his game does that for him.

I don't think he deserves to have his chance taken away from him by some kid "wet behind the ears" that is not ready for the NRL.

Maybe he will be the next Cameron Smith (why stop at Harry Grant) - However, he is NOT at the moment and the team plays currently with a lot more cohesion when Liddle is at DH.

Russ has a crush

As have I, and similarly to @Russell, though not totally abstaining, kept most of my thoughts to myself as Simpkin got his opportunity and then a run of them to show his wares.

Whilst many were raving about Jake's debut performance, I saw an average at best performance as part of a side that lifted for that match and feel it was rather like a shiny new toy attracting more attention. He was solid though, with good minutes within and he may well develop to be our long term option. Which he really must for our club's future, with them having committed long term prior to his outing.

Expectedly for some, Simpkin is nowhere near that yet and we are only now seeing close to the natural Liddle upon his game being released in reserves, just as we are with Brooks and I maintain that most of this delay has been from the coaching holding back their natural game, much more so than from the players. Square pegs don't fit properly into round holes and it was way past time that the players were being individually fitted and then formed into a team, rather than being squashed to meet a style that wouldn't work.

Ok I don’t care

Obviously a Simpkin fanboy! Can't see the forest for the trees.

Any wonder people have cracks at you with garbage posts like this
 
@thedaboss said in [Liddle](/post/1377629) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)

There is always 1 ????

![green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png](/assets/uploads/files/1622434723029-green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png)
 
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377861) said:
@thedaboss said in [Liddle](/post/1377629) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)

There is always 1 ????

![green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png](/assets/uploads/files/1622434723029-green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png)


Ah......ok......I'm with you....wink
 
@tiger5150 said in [Liddle](/post/1377864) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377861) said:
@thedaboss said in [Liddle](/post/1377629) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)

There is always 1 ????

![green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png](/assets/uploads/files/1622434723029-green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png)


Ah......ok......I'm with you....wink

There's a stupid frog face for every occasion...
 
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377874) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Liddle](/post/1377864) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377861) said:
@thedaboss said in [Liddle](/post/1377629) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)

There is always 1 ????

![green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png](/assets/uploads/files/1622434723029-green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png)


Ah......ok......I'm with you....wink

There's a stupid frog face for every occasion...


Lets just keep that between you and me......to the others its "just a Frog" ok?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Liddle](/post/1377877) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377874) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Liddle](/post/1377864) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377861) said:
@thedaboss said in [Liddle](/post/1377629) said:
@birchgrovetigers said in [Liddle](/post/1377367) said:
@aesopian said in [Liddle](/post/1377351) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Liddle](/post/1377333) said:
thought Liddle had a very good game against dragons, defence was good.
Think Simpkin will be a star but can't fault how good Liddle has been playing last 2 weeks.
Would like to see simpkin on the bench at some point this year to gain more experience

Yeah Lidz has responded well to the demotion. His passing and general play is looking solid compared to the nuffiness he dished up earlier in the season.

Simpkin now knows what he needs to improve in becoming an elite top grade 9. I've no doubt he'll become that and time is certainly on his side.

I thought his stint at the top was about on par with Liddle's first few weeks. Not bad considering he's still a wet behind the ear rookie. But Lidz has certainly raised the bar recently and hopefully a little bit of competition brings the best out of both...

What's with your username and display photo? Seems pretty intense mate.

For those that don't know the definition of aesopian = "conveying an innocent meaning to an outsider but a hidden meaning to a member of a conspiracy or underground movement."

And your display photo is pepe the frog - a symbol used by neo-nazis. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165)

There is always 1 ????

![green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png](/assets/uploads/files/1622434723029-green-and-blue-animal-cartoon-character-illustration-pepe-the-frog-internet-meme-frog-png-clip-art.png)


Ah......ok......I'm with you....wink

There's a stupid frog face for every occasion...


Lets just keep that between you and me......to the others its "just a Frog" ok?

Free the froggos. Underrated species lol
 

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