**live game feed ** vs the Sharks
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Tiger-ferret
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@russell said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1451892) said:
I thought we looked better in attack when he came back on…I’m gonna have to go back rewatch his defense.
My initial comment was more directed at his minutes…Our starting hooker comes off at 27minutes to be replaced by a reserve grader returning from a major injury…our stocks are very low atm.
happy_tiger
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@harvey said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1451914) said:
Arm was in a jersey sling when he entered dressing room
Most of the damage was done by the pressure we put on ourselves. The large number of errors gave the Sharks the chance to run at us and once we start that backpedaling rubbish the result is inevitable.
We went in with a very weak 17 - our bench was inexperienced and had no recent game time. Walters defending in the middle with tiring forwards and no hooker or forward leader was very costly. Their outside backs and fullback were far better and faster than ours and the only time we showed any intent in attack was for a short period in the second half. This coincided with Amone coming on and adding some mongrel and energy which seemed to lift some players and we played harder and faster. Shame we don’t play that way for 80 mins but instead wait until we cant win the game.
No excuse for the lack of heart and desire but our available 25 players that are in the bubble without Laurie, Mikaele, Liddle, Tamou, Seyfarth, Garner, are just too short on quality.
We went in with a very weak 17 - our bench was inexperienced and had no recent game time. Walters defending in the middle with tiring forwards and no hooker or forward leader was very costly. Their outside backs and fullback were far better and faster than ours and the only time we showed any intent in attack was for a short period in the second half. This coincided with Amone coming on and adding some mongrel and energy which seemed to lift some players and we played harder and faster. Shame we don’t play that way for 80 mins but instead wait until we cant win the game.
No excuse for the lack of heart and desire but our available 25 players that are in the bubble without Laurie, Mikaele, Liddle, Tamou, Seyfarth, Garner, are just too short on quality.
tig_prmz
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Amone had some good run but he was pretty lazy in defence. He created most of the gaps that they walked through. It was good to see someone showing some effort when we had the ball in attack, but no point if you can't cover 2m either side of you.
@tony-soprano said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1451701) said:
There are better performance or outcome indicators than my personal opinion. But my views are that I don't see the right tactical measures being implemented (to build) on both attack and defence.
As someone who played touch footy in HS and recognises the importance of defensive positioning, drills/ patterns and alignment or realignment, I honestly don't understand the strategy behind team selections.
Our team doesn't have the right physicality to maintain current defensive structures or enough x factor/strike to appropriately counteract the fatigue factor of today's game, so our Interchange use is important and it's frequently been used poorly.
I also don't see a team developing their tactical skills because of this and for me this is demonstrated though our predictable game plans. Other components which aren't showing much improvement include our adaptability and momentum control. We have poor line speed and others mention our shapes, and therefore are more inneffective with applying pressure to destabilise the opposition's defence.
Don't get me wrong the boys aren't innocent but the construction and balance of the team isn't exactly practical in the first place.
The defence stats are embarrassing and it was pointed out a month into the competition, by many forumers, that the defensive coaching needed to be modified. I believe someone shared a few weeks backs that while we're 6th in attack we happen to be 13th in defence and that's totally off-putting to see as a fan.
@aturkey said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1450757) said:
MADGE, MADGE, MADGE, MADGE!!!!!!!
What a coach, Possibly coach of the year, best coach for the young players we have. Yeah!!!!!
Someone needs to stop the Madge hate and negativity that comes from A Turkey.
voice_of_reason
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On our defence, when we get into our defensive shape we look OK - as we did for the first 30 minutes yesterday when we repelled them under enormous pressure. Where the dam wall breaks is when we can't get into shape. Their 9 gets through the markers, a forward gets a late offload, someone misses a tackle in the middle etc and they make a quick 30-40m.
Blokes like Tuki, Kelma, Mikaele and LL are OK if they're just going up and back but if they need to make up 30 metres our shape turns to mush. They struggle to get back, make poor decisions like rushing in (as it's the 'easy' option) then expose our edges. We lack the fitness and intensity of the better teams and our middle has been soft all year because of it. It's not helped by the young guys playing no reserve grades games and stepping up a level.
The guys with big engines, Twal, Stefano, Liddle and to a lesser extent Joffa, recover much better around the ruck.
Blokes like Tuki, Kelma, Mikaele and LL are OK if they're just going up and back but if they need to make up 30 metres our shape turns to mush. They struggle to get back, make poor decisions like rushing in (as it's the 'easy' option) then expose our edges. We lack the fitness and intensity of the better teams and our middle has been soft all year because of it. It's not helped by the young guys playing no reserve grades games and stepping up a level.
The guys with big engines, Twal, Stefano, Liddle and to a lesser extent Joffa, recover much better around the ruck.
aturkey
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@russell said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1452056) said:
Hahaha oh will someone please stop me!!! For the love of the delusion!!
Ps. Madge is bad
avocadoontoast
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@russell said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1452071) said:
Slagging off a young player because he’s challenging your pin up boy is pretty sad Russ.
hobbo1
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@avocadoontoast said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1452088) said:
He’s Grandpa Liddle !
innsaneink
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@happy_tiger said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1451830) said:
It was evident its was very warm but it didn't seem to bother the sharks too much
innsaneink
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@russell said in [\*\*live game feed \*\* vs the Sharks](/post/1452105) said:
Harry didn't say.
He asked Pascoe the question is. Madge too hard?
TIGERPOWER
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The biggest thing for me is when they score in the corner and not one player is there to stop the winger score under the posts. Not once not twice but I’m pretty sure 3 times.
I think the clubs strategy with young players and not paying overs for has beens is going to get us success in the near future. However that success can’t be achieved with brooks at halfback and the WHOLE coaching staff still here. I love madge and he is the one coach that has lead us in the right direction. But it isn’t working. I’m a madge supporter, and I would give anything to see him successful here for his dedication to our club alone. But it’s not working, it’s broken, the players aren’t listening and it’s time to move on.
Our future success will be achieved without either of these two guys. Get a young coach like ciraldo, someone our young team can relate too and put some experience around him like tim sheens and some decent assistant coaches. Move on players who have baggage and the tigers loser culture in them (brooks and nofa). Another year down the drain. Feel sorry for my kids who support this club with everything they have.
I think the clubs strategy with young players and not paying overs for has beens is going to get us success in the near future. However that success can’t be achieved with brooks at halfback and the WHOLE coaching staff still here. I love madge and he is the one coach that has lead us in the right direction. But it isn’t working. I’m a madge supporter, and I would give anything to see him successful here for his dedication to our club alone. But it’s not working, it’s broken, the players aren’t listening and it’s time to move on.
Our future success will be achieved without either of these two guys. Get a young coach like ciraldo, someone our young team can relate too and put some experience around him like tim sheens and some decent assistant coaches. Move on players who have baggage and the tigers loser culture in them (brooks and nofa). Another year down the drain. Feel sorry for my kids who support this club with everything they have.
