**live game feed ** vs the Sharks

[Russell]

who's the video ref?

Atkins - who else....the Tiger hater, coupled with Sutton...no chance of any good calls.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Ophenague, Utoikamanu, and Twall came to play, the rest??

Mbye has been our best, Simpkin also very good, and Joe has had some good moments

Simpkin was holding his own for the 27 minutes he was out there…

Rubbish - you also have to defend or don't you count that?

I thought we looked better in attack when he came back on…I’m gonna have to go back rewatch his defense.

My initial comment was more directed at his minutes…Our starting hooker comes off at 27minutes to be replaced by a reserve grader returning from a major injury…our stocks are very low atm.

 

[barnzee]

Ophenague, Utoikamanu, and Twall came to play, the rest??

Mbye has been our best, Simpkin also very good, and Joe has had some good moments

Simpkin was holding his own for the 27 minutes he was out there…

Rubbish - you also have to defend or don't you count that?

7 games to get his first try assist mate how many did it take your man ?

 

[happy_tiger]

Any news on what Tuilagi did to himself?

Arm was in a jersey sling when he entered dressing room

 

[TigerSJ]

Most of the damage was done by the pressure we put on ourselves. The large number of errors gave the Sharks the chance to run at us and once we start that backpedaling rubbish the result is inevitable.
We went in with a very weak 17 - our bench was inexperienced and had no recent game time. Walters defending in the middle with tiring forwards and no hooker or forward leader was very costly. Their outside backs and fullback were far better and faster than ours and the only time we showed any intent in attack was for a short period in the second half. This coincided with Amone coming on and adding some mongrel and energy which seemed to lift some players and we played harder and faster. Shame we don’t play that way for 80 mins but instead wait until we cant win the game.
No excuse for the lack of heart and desire but our available 25 players that are in the bubble without Laurie, Mikaele, Liddle, Tamou, Seyfarth, Garner, are just too short on quality.

 

[tig_prmz]

Amone had some good run but he was pretty lazy in defence. He created most of the gaps that they walked through. It was good to see someone showing some effort when we had the ball in attack, but no point if you can't cover 2m either side of you.

 

[Lauren]

When you don't hold the ruck and control the speed of the game this is what happens. We have some fine young players, we need a few more but Maguire is not the coach to take the team forward.

There are that many weaknesses and deficiencies in this team but the fact we haven't addressed them and watched it transpire (and worsen) all year is distressing to see as a fan.

Maguire is just coming of as a passionate fan with no idea how to actually get the team going places. I’m off him now.

I actually don't mind how he supports or cheers for the boys. But yeah like you, overall, feel he's not asking (the team) the right questions and is therefore unable to have them consistently up for the challenge.
We all have a fair understanding of what the strengths of our players are - and definitely what they lack - however there doesn't appear to be a tailored game plan around this, and this bothers me as much as not correcting our defensive problems.
His unwillingness to change or improve certain areas like this but then not build on what's working for us.
It's been painful having to watch the team often look powerless and unsure of themselves.

Don't think he's the only one struggling though, as it looks like almost every person within the organisation are unable to take control of a situation. Still no finals footy for the most patient rugby league fans ever absolutely sucks.

What's he unwilling to change and improve on?

There are better performance or outcome indicators than my personal opinion. But my views are that I don't see the right tactical measures being implemented (to build) on both attack and defence.
As someone who played touch footy in HS and recognises the importance of defensive positioning, drills/ patterns and alignment or realignment, I honestly don't understand the strategy behind team selections.
Our team doesn't have the right physicality to maintain current defensive structures or enough x factor/strike to appropriately counteract the fatigue factor of today's game, so our Interchange use is important and it's frequently been used poorly.
I also don't see a team developing their tactical skills because of this and for me this is demonstrated though our predictable game plans. Other components which aren't showing much improvement include our adaptability and momentum control. We have poor line speed and others mention our shapes, and therefore are more inneffective with applying pressure to destabilise the opposition's defence.

Don't get me wrong the boys aren't innocent but the construction and balance of the team isn't exactly practical in the first place.
The defence stats are embarrassing and it was pointed out a month into the competition, by many forumers, that the defensive coaching needed to be modified. I believe someone shared a few weeks backs that while we're 6th in attack we happen to be 13th in defence and that's totally off-putting to see as a fan.

 

[Russell]

Don't mind Flanno as a commentator

Me too, my criticism is he has been too positive about us.

That's because he wants Madge's job - in his dreams - cheat.

 

[Russell]

A good sign of whether a team has given up on their coach/season is how they defend, and these blokes just don't move up at all. The line speed is frankly embarrassing

I said this 6 months ago, the players are not buying what Madge is selling, it is souths 2016/17 all over again, only difference our board won't have the balls to sack him

Maybe mate but at a certain point these players need to take some pride in their performance.
The usual suspects are contributing nothing but negative plays repeatedly.

Exactly. And who is coaching them? Who signed majority of them? Who is keeping them in the team? The coach can't have no part in this. He is responsible.

MADGE, MADGE, MADGE, MADGE!!!!!!!

What a coach, Possibly coach of the year, best coach for the young players we have. Yeah!!!!!

Someone needs to stop the Madge hate and negativity that comes from A Turkey.

 

[Russell]

who's the video ref? perenara?

Yeah him

we were doomed from the start....how he has a job is beyond me

The video Ref. is Atkins.

 

[voice_of_reason]

On our defence, when we get into our defensive shape we look OK - as we did for the first 30 minutes yesterday when we repelled them under enormous pressure. Where the dam wall breaks is when we can't get into shape. Their 9 gets through the markers, a forward gets a late offload, someone misses a tackle in the middle etc and they make a quick 30-40m.

Blokes like Tuki, Kelma, Mikaele and LL are OK if they're just going up and back but if they need to make up 30 metres our shape turns to mush. They struggle to get back, make poor decisions like rushing in (as it's the 'easy' option) then expose our edges. We lack the fitness and intensity of the better teams and our middle has been soft all year because of it. It's not helped by the young guys playing no reserve grades games and stepping up a level.

The guys with big engines, Twal, Stefano, Liddle and to a lesser extent Joffa, recover much better around the ruck.

 

[Russell]

Shout-out to Simpkin for being the only player all night to try keep the try as far from the goal-posts as possible.

Well at least now he can say he tried to do something.

 

[aturkey]

A good sign of whether a team has given up on their coach/season is how they defend, and these blokes just don't move up at all. The line speed is frankly embarrassing

I said this 6 months ago, the players are not buying what Madge is selling, it is souths 2016/17 all over again, only difference our board won't have the balls to sack him

Maybe mate but at a certain point these players need to take some pride in their performance.
The usual suspects are contributing nothing but negative plays repeatedly.

Exactly. And who is coaching them? Who signed majority of them? Who is keeping them in the team? The coach can't have no part in this. He is responsible.

MADGE, MADGE, MADGE, MADGE!!!!!!!

What a coach, Possibly coach of the year, best coach for the young players we have. Yeah!!!!!

Someone needs to stop the Madge hate and negativity that comes from A Turkey.

Hahaha oh will someone please stop me!!! For the love of the delusion!!

Ps. Madge is bad

 

[avocadoontoast]

Shout-out to Simpkin for being the only player all night to try keep the try as far from the goal-posts as possible.

Well at least now he can say he tried to do something.

Slagging off a young player because he’s challenging your pin up boy is pretty sad Russ.

 

[hobbo1]

Shout-out to Simpkin for being the only player all night to try keep the try as far from the goal-posts as possible.

Well at least now he can say he tried to do something.

Slagging off a young player because he’s challenging your pin up boy is pretty sad Russ.

He’s Grandpa Liddle !

 

[Russell]

My old man's 86.
Madge's attitudes and coaching remind me of him.

No wonder Souths kicked him out. The players don't like him. Even on the Tigers Foxtel documentary the Tigers main Sponsor Mr. Meriton was heard to say to Pascoe "the players don't like him because he is too hard on them". Suffice to say that the club's main sponsor us not happy at all. I don't blame him.

He is not the main sponsor - heard of Brydens Lawyers?

 

[innsaneink]

I blame @happy_tiger for this disgusting effort today

Brooks didn't listen ...I literally had him walk within 3 metres of him and I told him to run the ball at HT

Did you leave early ?

No ......you couldn't leave until every player had finished post match interviews as it was gated off

But we have a bit to talk about fans

At least 4 players broke Covid protocols and hi fived fans as they were walking past

Jo O was the WT's culprit ......

Yeah but they’re all Queenslanders atm ?

No mask nothing .....the bloke beside me got photos and even commented on it

I'll be surprised if Douehi plays next game ...he was hobbling badly as he came into the dressing rooms

Did you get a refund ?

For free tickets lol

My take we ran out of steam because of the heat in the last 10 minutes of the 1st half and it didn't improve in the 2nd half

Not too many deserved a paycheck bar Stefano ....Kelma to a lesser extent ...maybe Douehi

Amone went ok when he got on

Just on that. Not sure if its been mentioned but who decided wearing our black jerseys in the heat of Rockhampton was a good idea.

I reckon we need to go George Constanza and get the boys playing in cotton uniforms. That will give us the edge we need. Just make sure they don’t shrink though. No drying machines guys

It got really hot the last 20 minutes before kick off ...was lining up waiting to grab a few Canadians before kick off and was sweating

It was evident its was very warm but it didn't seem to bother the sharks too much

 

[innsaneink]

My old man's 86.
Madge's attitudes and coaching remind me of him.

No wonder Souths kicked him out. The players don't like him. Even on the Tigers Foxtel documentary the Tigers main Sponsor Mr. Meriton was heard to say to Pascoe "the players don't like him because he is too hard on them". Suffice to say that the club's main sponsor us not happy at all. I don't blame him.

He is not the main sponsor - heard of Brydens Lawyers?

Harry didn't say.
He asked Pascoe the question is. Madge too hard?

 

[TIGERPOWER]

The biggest thing for me is when they score in the corner and not one player is there to stop the winger score under the posts. Not once not twice but I’m pretty sure 3 times.

I think the clubs strategy with young players and not paying overs for has beens is going to get us success in the near future. However that success can’t be achieved with brooks at halfback and the WHOLE coaching staff still here. I love madge and he is the one coach that has lead us in the right direction. But it isn’t working. I’m a madge supporter, and I would give anything to see him successful here for his dedication to our club alone. But it’s not working, it’s broken, the players aren’t listening and it’s time to move on.

Our future success will be achieved without either of these two guys. Get a young coach like ciraldo, someone our young team can relate too and put some experience around him like tim sheens and some decent assistant coaches. Move on players who have baggage and the tigers loser culture in them (brooks and nofa). Another year down the drain. Feel sorry for my kids who support this club with everything they have.

 

[Russell]

Ophenague, Utoikamanu, and Twall came to play, the rest??

Mbye has been our best, Simpkin also very good, and Joe has had some good moments

Simpkin was holding his own for the 27 minutes he was out there…

Rubbish - you also have to defend or don't you count that?

7 games to get his first try assist mate how many did it take your man ?

No acknowledgement.