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@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167453) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167451) said:
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167448) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167445) said:
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167441) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167436) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167433) said:
Chee Kam is the best play maker ever. Assisted one off his foot without even looking and assisted one off his head against roosters in 2018 ?

Keep bagging him but he always produces ..
Don’t forget he single handedly won 2 games last year

He did drop it cold which led to a Cowgirls TRY next set..

Can’t always be perfect...
He’s won us more games than your mate
?

You know that's not true and since you brought up my mate if it had of been him who dropped it you would have made 30 posts in this game thread at the time of how crap he is

Nah never !
It’s a team game after all .
Jennings still sucked though ?


Oh man ..I'm bookmarking this post for eternity..lol

I only post negative comments when warranted ..
 
@tigerballs said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167447) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167370) said:
@tigerballs said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167364) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167118) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167114) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167064) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1166998) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1166886) said:
My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Was it Anasta who gave it to Reynolds for not taking control when Brooks was tackled? Seems a terribly individual action to not be in position to takeover from your halves partner when he is tackled on the fifth tackle.


Exactly. Reynolds had a terrible game. He was very lucky that our attack and their defence in the first half overrode his stupidity. He got SO lucky on that first try, Brooks was calling for it on the left and on his right he had both props and Twal on the last, and he passed to Musgrove. That thing he was doing screaming up out of the line, in our own ten was terrifying me, luckily Cowboys were so bad they couldnt capitalise on it and he stopped doing it after no doubt a prompt from Madge at half time.

What I don't quite understand is we score 34 points in 40 minutes, ***mostly set up by Reynolds***, passes and kicks, and people are still bagging him. No one even made a break through his rushing out of the line in defence, in fact the opposition didn't even score a point. Yes, he threw an intercept, only because he was trying something which, if it connected was most certainly another Tigers try. With Reynolds starting, we've won by a margin and gone awful close to last years Grand Finalist. What more do you want?
And using an Anasta observation to bag a bloke? Says it all really.

You have a very different recollection of the first half than I do.

Try 1 REynolds gets a TA by screwing up and passing to a prop on the last (Brooks was calling for it left and as soon as Musgrove got it, Garner was pointing back for the pass, it was an error).

Try 2 REynolds passes it to Douiehi who puts BJ in space. Reynolds did nothing other than standard catch and pass.

Try 3 Reynolds a panicked catch and pass to Nofo after Grants kick into the back of the cowboys. Try set up by great work by Nofo and Mbye, nothing to do with Reynolds.

Try 4 Reynolds did zero and didnt touch the ball, Grant sets up Alioia.

Try 5 Reynolds nowhere near it, doesnt touch the ball. Grant -Brooks -Mbye ->Jennings.

Try 6 - Reynolds kick results in a try. Not a good kick, didnt go to hand, landed 20m short of the line, but it was his kick and it did result in a try.

So Reynolds screwed up and resulted in the first try and then puts in a mediocre kick on the back of a great Nofo break that after some pinball results in a try.......but the 34points were ***mostly*** set up by REynolds? You might have to walk me through how that works.

So basically, what you're saying is, Reynolds made an error by throwing a pass which led to a try and should instead have thrown the ball wide to a halfback who was going to do what?

Yes, I am saying exactly that. Although it led to a try, for a playmaker to throw the ball to a prop on the last...TWICE in a game is beyond incompetent.

Douiehi's pass put BJ into space to score was worth noting but Reynolds pass to put Douiehi into space was just a standard catch and pass.

Pretty much, Douiehi did all the heavy lifting for that try. Reynolds was standard 5/8 link, catch and pass.

Great work by Nofo and Mbye, panicked pass from Reynolds. Why can't it be great work from JR to recover the ball and pass to the man in the best position to do something.

Because he didnt. Yes he recovered the ball and threw it to the bloke next to him, in the OPPOSITE direction to the way the play had to go. This is your definition of playmaking?

His kick that led to a try went to a bloke who tried to catch it with his eyes closed, perfectly placed if he looked up to catch it.

It wasnt a bad kick.

He's had a hand in 4 of the 6 tries.

He has touched the ball, in 4 of the six tries, he contributed to two. He is also the 5/8 and should touch the ball that many times. You are the one saying that our 34 points were MOSTLY due to Reynolds, Its garbage.

>If Brooks had done the same you'd be naming him in the SOO side as captain.

Nah, Reynolds had a poor game. If Luke Brooks, dropped a kick cold, continually ran out of the line, threw it to a prop twice on the last, kicked on the 3rd when we are under the pump, then threw a ridiculous low percentage intercept pass that cost us a try, then go AWOL when his half partner got tackled on the 5th.......I would be calling for him to be dropped.

But.....you know......energy.



You're bagging a bloke who's having a proper go, something that's been missing for a while. Give us all a break.

Having a go for Reynolds equals running like a chook with its head cut off and making all of the most basic mistakes. Id be happy with Reynolds "energy" as a pick up and pass dummy half but at 6 he is a massive liability. Where did the coach (or captain) move Reynolds for the kick off returns? Feldt kept kicking it to the same place and Nofo had to do it for him for the rest of the night.

Most of the the 34 were from Reynolds? Give ME a break.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167472) said:
@tigerballs said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167447) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167370) said:
@tigerballs said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167364) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167118) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167114) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167064) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1166998) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1166886) said:
My biggest issue with Reynolds, is things like when Brooks was tackled and played the ball on the 5th tackle during the 1st half. We had 2 forwards put on a play on the last, this is when you need your 2nd playmaker and most experienced player to step in and demand the ball. These sorts of things happen too often with Reynolds, he is not there when he should be, if it was a one off then fair enough but it is not a one off.

I saw Brooks get tackled three times on the 5th, leaving the sixth play tackle option up to someone else.
I really think we need a half that can manage the game, even the sixth play, because it's not Brooks specialty.


Like Reynolds who TWICE passed it to a prop on the 6th? (lucky on the first that the Cowboys couldbt believe it).

Was it Anasta who gave it to Reynolds for not taking control when Brooks was tackled? Seems a terribly individual action to not be in position to takeover from your halves partner when he is tackled on the fifth tackle.


Exactly. Reynolds had a terrible game. He was very lucky that our attack and their defence in the first half overrode his stupidity. He got SO lucky on that first try, Brooks was calling for it on the left and on his right he had both props and Twal on the last, and he passed to Musgrove. That thing he was doing screaming up out of the line, in our own ten was terrifying me, luckily Cowboys were so bad they couldnt capitalise on it and he stopped doing it after no doubt a prompt from Madge at half time.

What I don't quite understand is we score 34 points in 40 minutes, ***mostly set up by Reynolds***, passes and kicks, and people are still bagging him. No one even made a break through his rushing out of the line in defence, in fact the opposition didn't even score a point. Yes, he threw an intercept, only because he was trying something which, if it connected was most certainly another Tigers try. With Reynolds starting, we've won by a margin and gone awful close to last years Grand Finalist. What more do you want?
And using an Anasta observation to bag a bloke? Says it all really.

You have a very different recollection of the first half than I do.

Try 1 REynolds gets a TA by screwing up and passing to a prop on the last (Brooks was calling for it left and as soon as Musgrove got it, Garner was pointing back for the pass, it was an error).

Try 2 REynolds passes it to Douiehi who puts BJ in space. Reynolds did nothing other than standard catch and pass.

Try 3 Reynolds a panicked catch and pass to Nofo after Grants kick into the back of the cowboys. Try set up by great work by Nofo and Mbye, nothing to do with Reynolds.

Try 4 Reynolds did zero and didnt touch the ball, Grant sets up Alioia.

Try 5 Reynolds nowhere near it, doesnt touch the ball. Grant -Brooks -Mbye ->Jennings.

Try 6 - Reynolds kick results in a try. Not a good kick, didnt go to hand, landed 20m short of the line, but it was his kick and it did result in a try.

So Reynolds screwed up and resulted in the first try and then puts in a mediocre kick on the back of a great Nofo break that after some pinball results in a try.......but the 34points were ***mostly*** set up by REynolds? You might have to walk me through how that works.

So basically, what you're saying is, Reynolds made an error by throwing a pass which led to a try and should instead have thrown the ball wide to a halfback who was going to do what?

Yes, I am saying exactly that. Although it led to a try, for a playmaker to throw the ball to a prop on the last...TWICE in a game is beyond incompetent.

Douiehi's pass put BJ into space to score was worth noting but Reynolds pass to put Douiehi into space was just a standard catch and pass.

Pretty much, Douiehi did all the heavy lifting for that try. Reynolds was standard 5/8 link, catch and pass.

Great work by Nofo and Mbye, panicked pass from Reynolds. Why can't it be great work from JR to recover the ball and pass to the man in the best position to do something.

Because he didnt. Yes he recovered the ball and threw it to the bloke next to him, in the OPPOSITE direction to the way the play had to go. This is your definition of playmaking?

His kick that led to a try went to a bloke who tried to catch it with his eyes closed, perfectly placed if he looked up to catch it.

It wasnt a bad kick.

He's had a hand in 4 of the 6 tries.

He has touched the ball, in 4 of the six tries, he contributed to two. He is also the 5/8 and should touch the ball that many times. You are the one saying that our 34 points were MOSTLY due to Reynolds, Its garbage.

>If Brooks had done the same you'd be naming him in the SOO side as captain.

Nah, Reynolds had a poor game. If Luke Brooks, dropped a kick cold, continually ran out of the line, threw it to a prop twice on the last, kicked on the 3rd when we are under the pump, then threw a ridiculous low percentage intercept pass that cost us a try, then go AWOL when his half partner got tackled on the 5th.......I would be calling for him to be dropped.

But.....you know......energy.



You're bagging a bloke who's having a proper go, something that's been missing for a while. Give us all a break.

Having a go for Reynolds equals running like a chook with its head cut off and making all of the most basic mistakes. Id be happy with Reynolds "energy" as a pick up and pass dummy half but at 6 he is a massive liability. Where did the coach (or captain) move Reynolds for the kick off returns? Feldt kept kicking it to the same place and Nofo had to do it for him for the rest of the night.

Most of the the 34 were from Reynolds? Give ME a break.

I really don't want Reynolds anywhere near the hooker position, he has improved there but still out of his depth playing hooker.
 
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

One word.

Seyfarth.
 
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

So you degrade me from behind your keyboard? Afterall you did just call me inept. Sorry mate for the big $ and the chance to play in the NRL I think they can cope with some randoms discussing their form and skill on an internet forum. I'm invested in this game, I have a right to discuss the game and club I love. I'll also say I'm not hiding from anyone.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

Ok you were a hack Zig

Who's next ....Geo
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction, however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.

Possibly the most considered thing I've read here this year. I'm not sure why, but there seems to be an every increasing desire to simply criticise players for the sake of it.

The inability of some to objectively view performances is actually pretty sad. I don't post a lot on here - frankly I'm not sure of the value of what I post - but reading some of the threads discourages me from posting (or even reading) at all.

Would be nice for people to be a bit more 'glass half full'.
 
I thought Reynolds played ok .

So he threw the ball to a prop - and it was an error?

Gee, there must be a lot of DH's making errors. I think Grant must have made 23 errors then.

He over rode Brooks request for the ball and gave it to a prop who scored a try.

Hope he makes another 3 or 4 of those errors against the Dogs.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..
 
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167503) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

So you degrade me from behind your keyboard? Afterall you did just call me inept. Sorry mate for the big $ and the chance to play in the NRL I think they can cope with some randoms discussing their form and skill on an internet forum. I'm invested in this game, I have a right to discuss the game and club I love.

Can you say where I called you inept firstly??
Secondly I said ''the ineptness of SOME " that take the opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye...
I also pay my membership and give donations to this club from a distance ...I live out of town...
I get sick of people degrading players when they are human the same as you and me...I wouldn't want a person publicly critising me without me being able to respond....
 
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

Luke who
 
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

Forgot to ask ...how did the Nude World hiking day go ?? arrested again by some squirrels ??
 
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167510) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167503) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

So you degrade me from behind your keyboard? Afterall you did just call me inept. Sorry mate for the big $ and the chance to play in the NRL I think they can cope with some randoms discussing their form and skill on an internet forum. I'm invested in this game, I have a right to discuss the game and club I love.

Can you say where I called you inept firstly??
Secondly I said ''the ineptness of SOME " that take the opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye...
I also pay my membership and give donations to this club from a distance ...I live out of town...
I get sick of people degrading players when they are human the same as you and me...I wouldn't want a person publicly critising me without me being able to respond....

Once you included the word "you" when referring I was hiding behind a keyboard you made me one of the targets of your post. Unless only the second pargraph applied to me which wouldn't make much sense.


No I don't really rate Reynolds as a footballer but he has $800k reasons not to really care what I think. Personally in my previous role I had people bagging me constantly behind my back for decisions I would make, but that didn't worry me in the least as a persons opinion doesn't mean squad to me unless they address with me, infact it can be beneficial for people to have an outlet for their grievances.

I guess football would die pretty quickly once we stop people discussing it. lol
 
@happy_tiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167516) said:
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

Luke who



@happy_tiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167516) said:
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

Luke who

Luke Brookvale
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167522) said:
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

So its ok to bag a player you dislike, but not a player you like? There is no difference between you saying that Luke deserves some time on the pine and others saying that Reynolds had a bad game.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167522) said:
@Geo said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167509) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167501) said:
@cochise said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167498) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Live game thread \- Tigers V Cowboys](/post/1167490) said:
I will say that on this forum there is a huge amount of keyboard coaches with bugger all idea....
Mostly because of personal hate toward certain players....
most of you want wins yesterday and be winning gf every year...
wake up and smell the roses...its a tough job coaching at NRL level as well as having to stick to a salary cap and being able to buy who you want IF available,as well as trying to appease the board..
Lets go back to you who are bagging JR,Madge said in his presso when asked about JR and how he is going he said ""he is doing what I need him to do and is working very hard to achieve what we are working toward"",so why don't you bag the crap out of Madge or is it beyond you blokes to see that everyone is working toward a culture change and a goal of becoming a very competitive club in the not so distant future..
some on here have an absolute clueless idea of the game in its modern version but seem to know more than a premiership coach..
I consider everyone to be able to have an opinion or an idea that helps this club and forum in the right direction,however the never ending garbage of criticising the same players constantly is abysimal.
Reynolds can hold his own in the NRL arena ,if not then Madge wouldn't have dropped Benji and asked JR to step up,but as usual all the EXPERTS on here know so much more,I would say its only your 2 bobs worth because mostly your are anonymous on the forum and would embarrass yourself if you were given the chance to make changes,put gameplans and structurers together with who you have available....
BY ALL MEANS HAVE AN OPINION AND INPUT ...BUT LEAVE THE DEGRADING OF THESE PLAYERS OUT OF IT...some who would have liked to be in the NRL couldn't make the cut because of the hard work and talent required to be there...that includes me and I tried my arse off..so bag me if you want for not making it but have some substantial support of your own before criticising everyone else...

This is a forum right?

Yes it is mate... but its still gutless bagging out players if people don't know the circumstances or have knowledge of what those players were asked to do...refer to Madges presso…

And don't give me "this is a forum garbage ''just to justify the ineptness of some who think it an opportunity to degrade people who are in the public eye while you and others hide behind a keyboard anonymously.

Just remember that next time you give it to Luke Brooks..

I will GEO,but saying he needs sometime on the pine is a bit different to degrading him in regard to his contract worth and the money he was offered..
Jr is on big money and was given that by a previous coach...he had injuries and was a state of origin player when coming to us..Madge said he is doing everything he asks of him,so there is where I draw the line on degrading the guy,Luke was our answer to Joey Johns and has been given huge amounts of chances and time to become an elite playmaker...JR didn't have time to show us his worth because of injuries and disruptions which are well known..
Jr gets a lot of rubbishing on here even though he has had very little game time,he is doing his best and Luke is playing better now that JR is playing with him,lets say how great Luke is now going which I applaud,I also think JR is why he is running the ball and playing better...so he deserves some credit ...but that's just me..

Mate ...cmon seriously , I knew cheerleaders who played harder / tougher than you
 
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