Lost opportunity in Macarthur

[Deleted member 3518]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The club could easily engage more with the area..... a large majority of functions, member days etc are done at Leichhardt or in that area.

They barely even advertise Campbelltown games, I see more advertising for Penrith games in the area than Tigers yet everytime there's a Leichhardt game it's all over social media and they make it a huge deal.

Not trying to make it a Wests V Balmain thing that's before my time but the club definitely could try harder to have some more outreach in the area to the fans, and that's shown with Rabbitohs snatching up this business opportunity. They're not dumb they know how to get more members.

A lot of the junior systems have been somewhat unorganised from what I've seen/heard from the group 6 comp at least. The GSR Tigers thing they do seems to be a step behind all the other teams in the competition

I do know that they make considerably less money when they play at Campbelltown compared to the other venues, so that may be a factor as well.

They definitely tried to engage the community in the 2000-2010 range . The in fighting and crap , that went on between wests juniors , wests lumeah and the tigers , really messed it up . Plus even when we were at our peak and winning premierships , it still felt like there was a disconnect when you went out there to games , and the crowds reflected that.

It’s always been a mish mash of an area when it comes to sport. They never ever really got behind the magpies , and not the tigers either . Maybe MacArthur will have better luck as it’s not a ring in , and is a start up more reflective of the area.
Still i wouldn’t be throwing in with a club less than 6 months old trying to turn a profit in a pandemic , when thier tv deal just got slashed in half , and soccer in general has been told it’s not a priority to corporate Australia .

 

[cochise]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

Have you let the club know how you feel?

Are those clubs involved in the junior league in the Macarthur region?

When were the visits from these other clubs?

I just did a quick search and the club was visiting schools in the region in the week of the 20th of Feb last year. It has literally been impossible for them to be there since.

 

[happy_tiger]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

Have you let the club know how you feel?

Are those clubs involved in the junior league in the Macarthur region?

When were the visits from these other clubs?

I just did a quick search and the club was visiting schools in the region in the week of the 20th of Feb last year. It has literally been impossible for them to be there since.

They aren't going to listen to a fan who is 1500 kms away lol ...even one who is as intelligent as I am

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

Have you let the club know how you feel?

Are those clubs involved in the junior league in the Macarthur region?

When were the visits from these other clubs?

I just did a quick search and the club was visiting schools in the region in the week of the 20th of Feb last year. It has literally been impossible for them to be there since.

Exactly man . Also a big thing , is the principal and head of sport in charge with organising these things .
For example , the school I went to had 2 grades of around 10 parramatta academy , Wests and Parramatta Harold mats players . We had a teacher who was an A grade which was super strong at the time , premiership winning coach , and he got rejected for a ring in , from the north shore , and all that League talent was playing union . The age above me which had the most talented players , wouldn’t play in the opens Comp.
And now 20 years later , I understand the decision way less , when I think about the demographics of my school.
I know the eels and tigers tried hard through the A grade coach/teacher to get involved , and were rejected each time . And all Union ever gave us , was the William Webb Ellis trophy came to our school for an hour.
Imagine how many stories are out there like that. Teacher thinks league is too violent , rejects nrl , teacher thinks soccer is a more beautiful sport , rejects nrl approach, teacher has kids who play for the local afl club, rejects nrl . Or teacher might get funding for the school from the AFL or new equipment if they run a clinic .
And reject the nrl .

 

[cochise]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

Have you let the club know how you feel?

Are those clubs involved in the junior league in the Macarthur region?

When were the visits from these other clubs?

I just did a quick search and the club was visiting schools in the region in the week of the 20th of Feb last year. It has literally been impossible for them to be there since.

Exactly man . Also a big thing , is the principal and head of sport in charge with organising these things .
For example , the school I went to had 2 grades of around 10 parramatta academy , Wests and Parramatta Harold mats players . We had a teacher who was an A grade which was super strong at the time , premiership winning coach , and he got rejected for a ring in , from the north shore , and all that League talent was playing union . The age above me which had the most talented players , wouldn’t play in the opens Comp.
And now 20 years later , I understand the decision way less , when I think about the demographics of my school.
I know the eels and tigers tried hard through the A grade coach/teacher to get involved , and were rejected each time . And all Union ever gave us , was the William Webb Ellis trophy came to our school for an hour.
Imagine how many stories are out there like that. Teacher thinks league is too violent , rejects nrl , teacher thinks soccer is a more beautiful sport , rejects nrl approach, teacher has kids who play for the local afl club, rejects nrl . Or teacher might get funding for the school from the AFL or new equipment if they run a clinic .
And reject the nrl .

That is spot on mate, I am a former school principal and it is crucial who that contact person is, if the sports person in the school doesn't like Rugby League it is almost impossible to get into some schools.

A related story, we had the Giants come into my school and they gave all the kids an AFL ball. One of my rugby league kids, a big islander boy turned around and told them "I will take your ball, but I will be playing Rugby League with it every afternoon!" I was so proud in that moment lol

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

I mentioned in a thread when Macarthur FC was announced that we should form an association to build for the future as Sydney population grows and spread the future will be in the South West inner Sydney will become more trendier an the die hard supporter will have vanished from the inner Sydney.Macurthur is the growth area of the future with new housing estates opening as far as PICTON and the industrial areas around the new airport combined with the new housing schools and universities I believe Souffs have an affiliation or did with GROUP 6 side Narellan Jets Group 6 is still CRL but now is part of the Sydney Metro area now its not to late wake up WTS and invest in the future remember the old saying Go West Young Man well now its Go South West Young Man

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

No we don't. With 2 kids at schools in the local area I can tell you that they have regular visits from the GWS Giants, there was a 6 week (one day a week) soccer skills program that included male and female players from the wanderers (before the Bulls entered the A-league) and there has been a 1 NRL skills session. When I asked the kids were tigers players there, they said no, It might have been people from the NRL or they might have been Bulldogs players because they were wearing blue and white.

There are next to no training sessions out here, next to know community events, no fan days or members days. That might be a start in terms of what people would like the club to do.

It is like the club expects the area to be grateful for the fact that they play 3 (poorly promoted) games out here. Is that supposed to drive the engagement with the club?

Apart from these games there are 2 or 3 clubs that have better engagement with the south west, and you will find that they are the ones that pick the eyes out of the junior competition and leave the scraps for Wests.

Have you let the club know how you feel?

Are those clubs involved in the junior league in the Macarthur region?

When were the visits from these other clubs?

I just did a quick search and the club was visiting schools in the region in the week of the 20th of Feb last year. It has literally been impossible for them to be there since.

Exactly man . Also a big thing , is the principal and head of sport in charge with organising these things .
For example , the school I went to had 2 grades of around 10 parramatta academy , Wests and Parramatta Harold mats players . We had a teacher who was an A grade which was super strong at the time , premiership winning coach , and he got rejected for a ring in , from the north shore , and all that League talent was playing union . The age above me which had the most talented players , wouldn’t play in the opens Comp.
And now 20 years later , I understand the decision way less , when I think about the demographics of my school.
I know the eels and tigers tried hard through the A grade coach/teacher to get involved , and were rejected each time . And all Union ever gave us , was the William Webb Ellis trophy came to our school for an hour.
Imagine how many stories are out there like that. Teacher thinks league is too violent , rejects nrl , teacher thinks soccer is a more beautiful sport , rejects nrl approach, teacher has kids who play for the local afl club, rejects nrl . Or teacher might get funding for the school from the AFL or new equipment if they run a clinic .
And reject the nrl .

That is spot on mate, I am a former school principal and it is crucial who that contact person is, if the sports person in the school doesn't like Rugby League it is almost impossible to get into some schools.

A related story, we had the Giants come into my school and they gave all the kids an AFL ball. One of my rugby league kids, a big islander boy turned around and told them "I will take your ball, but I will be playing Rugby League with it every afternoon!" I was so proud in that moment lol

But it works right , look at the comments we replied to. Both saying the NRL has given up on the area , when who knows if that’s true or not . I don’t think it would be , as I think the tigers have probably hit a lot of road blocks and now just run clinics at Cambo. It’s a pretty ruthless tactic from the AFL. Cut off supply ,’to the schools and then make the NRL look like it’s given up.
Still it was the NRLs closed minded fault they even let AFL get a foothold , as weak as it is. They took a lot of councils for granted and are now playing catch up . It should never have happened .
Too many jobs for the boys in NRL, which they are fixing now.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I mentioned in a thread when Macarthur FC was announced that we should form an association to build for the future as Sydney population grows and spread the future will be in the South West inner Sydney will become more trendier an the die hard supporter will have vanished from the inner Sydney.Macurthur is the growth area of the future with new housing estates opening as far as PICTON and the industrial areas around the new airport combined with the new housing schools and universities I believe Souffs have an affiliation or did with GROUP 6 side Narellan Jets Group 6 is still CRL but now is part of the Sydney Metro area now its not to late wake up WTS and invest in the future remember the old saying Go West Young Man well now its Go South West Young Man

I thought the tigers had group 6 as it’s feeder , along with Balmain and Wests juniors ? I was almost certain of this ?

 

[mike]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

 

[happy_tiger]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

With the amount of wandering this club does as far as home grounds and bases go we should rename ourselves the Buffaloes ....probably matches the speed of our backline the majority of seasons as well

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

Its not so much about relocating its about looking after what you have look how much things have changed in the last 20 years whats it going to be in the next 20 years ????? some of us will be long gone others will be still be around you don't want the scenario of SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA

 

[cochise]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

Its not so much about relocating its about looking after what you have look how much things have changed in the last 20 years whats it going to be in the next 20 years ????? some of us will be long gone others will be still be around you don't want the scenario of SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA

I don't know if the area has the ability to support an NRL team.

 

[kiwitiger]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

Its not so much about relocating its about looking after what you have look how much things have changed in the last 20 years whats it going to be in the next 20 years ????? some of us will be long gone others will be still be around you don't want the scenario of SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA

I don't know if the area has the ability to support an NRL team.

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

Its not so much about relocating its about looking after what you have look how much things have changed in the last 20 years whats it going to be in the next 20 years ????? some of us will be long gone others will be still be around you don't want the scenario of SHOULDA WOULDA COULDA

I don't know if the area has the ability to support an NRL team.

The jets moved out there in the early 80s because it was a growth area. They folded and the the magpies followed in the late 80s because it was a growth area. 30 years later it is still a growth area but has not been able to support a team of its own yet. Maybe Souths moving out there may kill them off too.

 

[TrueTiger]

I mentioned in a thread when Macarthur FC was announced that we should form an association to build for the future as Sydney population grows and spread the future will be in the South West inner Sydney will become more trendier an the die hard supporter will have vanished from the inner Sydney.Macurthur is the growth area of the future with new housing estates opening as far as PICTON and the industrial areas around the new airport combined with the new housing schools and universities I believe Souffs have an affiliation or did with GROUP 6 side Narellan Jets Group 6 is still CRL but now is part of the Sydney Metro area now its not to late wake up WTS and invest in the future remember the old saying Go West Young Man well now its Go South West Young Man

I thought the tigers had group 6 as it’s feeder , along with Balmain and Wests juniors ? I was almost certain of this ?

strongee mate ,I live in Moss Vale and as far as I know before the pandemic hit, the WTs came to our town and gave clinics at schools and also they played a reserve grade game at the community oval a year or two prior as well..
My honest opinion about the Macarthur area is that,and btw I love going to Campo and watching games thats why I have an out of towner membership because its only 50 mins from home,the area is being developed at a speedy rate,the people are multicultural and soccer is probably the big sport they want to follow,AFL has made big inroads ...so my point is that the WTs have to keep their irons in the fire in the area and pressure the other codes,not give up,the WTs are doing the best they can atm with pathways etc,but have to keep it going ...
I do honestly think we need a ground to call home,where that is I have no real idea,but I do know we get good revenue from the bigger stadiums to play there thats why we need to start winning more games and make the finals,winning games gets the supporters excited and culminates in more memberships,making the finals raises revenue and can start the club on a path to bigger income streams like more sponsorship,corporate boxes etc etc..

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

I mentioned in a thread when Macarthur FC was announced that we should form an association to build for the future as Sydney population grows and spread the future will be in the South West inner Sydney will become more trendier an the die hard supporter will have vanished from the inner Sydney.Macurthur is the growth area of the future with new housing estates opening as far as PICTON and the industrial areas around the new airport combined with the new housing schools and universities I believe Souffs have an affiliation or did with GROUP 6 side Narellan Jets Group 6 is still CRL but now is part of the Sydney Metro area now its not to late wake up WTS and invest in the future remember the old saying Go West Young Man well now its Go South West Young Man

I thought the tigers had group 6 as it’s feeder , along with Balmain and Wests juniors ? I was almost certain of this ?

Souffs came in and had an affiliation with Narellan not sure if its still in existence but it did happen

 

[JC99]

I mentioned in a thread when Macarthur FC was announced that we should form an association to build for the future as Sydney population grows and spread the future will be in the South West inner Sydney will become more trendier an the die hard supporter will have vanished from the inner Sydney.Macurthur is the growth area of the future with new housing estates opening as far as PICTON and the industrial areas around the new airport combined with the new housing schools and universities I believe Souffs have an affiliation or did with GROUP 6 side Narellan Jets Group 6 is still CRL but now is part of the Sydney Metro area now its not to late wake up WTS and invest in the future remember the old saying Go West Young Man well now its Go South West Young Man

I thought the tigers had group 6 as it’s feeder , along with Balmain and Wests juniors ? I was almost certain of this ?

Souffs came in and had an affiliation with Narellan not sure if its still in existence but it did happen

Don't think it's a thing anymore. Most of our boys at narellan end up at eels bulldogs and wests

 

[hank37w]

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

Definitely not roll over and let Souffs stroll in.

 

[cochise]

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?



Definitely not roll over and let Souffs stroll in.

Who said they are doing that?

 

[jirskyr]

Sounds like a Mickey Mouse initiative to me.

I agree. Souths "partnering" with an A-League team that hasn't played a match yet.

If you read the text of the article, the primary outcomes of the partnership are reciprocal access to matches and 5% off merchandise. Tigers already had a merchandise store in Macarthur Square and I believe it has closed - one can only assume lack of cost effectiveness.

The secondary outcome is Rabbits offering a mobile phone product, which has absolutely nothing to do with growing rugby league in a region. Can't wait for Rabbits to start offering credit cards and pawn brokerages.

After which the partnership falls to generic "Souths Cares" community initiatives that may already exist in SW Sydney or elsewhere.

Tigers already do community work in the area.

All of this pales in comparison to actually playing in the area.

Magpies and WT have been labouring in Macarthur for over 30 years and still it is far from an outstanding league region, either in junior development, fan base or corporate dollars. That's not an opinion, that's just fact. Also a fact is that club would be fully aware of the pros and cons of investment in the game in Macarthur, the only question is how much effort and $$$ they invest in trying.

The fact that Souths are throwing a few bucks into the region is really quite meaningless to me. I mean, they are offering merch discounts to residents of SW Sydney from their merch store at Heffron Park. I don't see fleets of vehicles driving across town 60 minutes to Matraville for 5% off a Souths jersey.

The real fact of the matter is that Western Sydney is both a source of power and frustration for all Sydney clubs. There is no doubt of the potential in the population both financially and in footballers, but by the same token, the area is heavily populated by immigrants with no direct links with rugby league, and it's a huge and long-term task for the entire code to covert this population into card-carrying members.

For example Parramatta now has a huge subcontinental population in its heartland, but I don't know if I can name a single footballer of Indian or Sri Lankan or Bangladeshi heritage in the NRL or any grade below. I have no idea if Parramatta can sell good numbers of memberships to these families.

And then finally you get the argument whether or not there is tangible benefit, some 40-50 years down the track, of attempting to sure-up specific geographical areas within Sydney. It may be that Wests Tigers supporters are actually widely dispersed across Sydney. Souths already claim to have 10,000 members in SW Sydney, which would be 1/3rd of their entire membership. Now is this a product of Souths investment in Macarthur, or simply a by-product of population dispersal out of traditional inner South Sydney? Do people in Redfern steadfastly support Rabbits and live in the area any more than Tigers fans still claim hold over Balmain, Rozelle and Birchgrove?

 

[Harvey]

Souths have signed a ground breaking partnership with Macarthur FC.

Wests Tigers are losing the region to Souths and even Penrith..... What is our strategy for our footprint??

https://www.rabbitohs.com.au/news/2021/01/29/ground-breaking-partnership-with-macarthur-fc/

Honestly, I don't know, but think we may be giving up out there. Wests Magpies Canterbury Cup team has moved from Campbelltown.

I definitely think club bosses see our future as being in the Inner-West. Our membership, crowd attendance and general support is much bigger in this locality. And with the centre of excellence coming at Concord I think this is the area our focus should be on.

It is definitely the inner-west, no doubt about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to step back and look where Wests Tigers have developed and it’s not Campbelltown.

exactly it is not like they built COE at campbletown
hope we can keep the Junior nursery going though and not let souths in dogs may be next


So you want your cake and you want to eat it too. The point is Souths are proactively engaging the community out there while we sit by and do nothing. It won't change much over the next year or two but they will just keep chipping away until they have a foothold in the area. They already play trials there and hold regular junior and school clinics in the area. Its not about moving lock stock and barrel to the area - its about maintaining strong ties with community and looking at ways to strenghten our hold on that nursery you talk about. People keep whingeing on here about doing what the "big" clubs do and then when one of those big clubs proactively moves in on our turf the same people say who cares it means nothing. It obviously means something to Souths.

We do all those things in the area plus play NRL games there, not just trials? We support the junior leagues out there and are developing and strengthening pathways, including putting highly experienced coaching staff in roles to mentor coaches, players and trainers. There are plans for an academy to be built in the area.

The area is not really engaging with the club, what is it that people want the club to do?

The people want the club to relocate to Campbelltown, that’s not going to happen.

I don't suggest relocation in the short term, but plant your roots early. Doesn't take much to hold an open training session once a week in the area, have players turn up every so often at junior games/training sessions. Be seen as attached to the area and be the club that juniors can relate to and want to join.