AmericanHistoryX
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seems as though the clubs are lining up. "show me the money"
Joel Helmes
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The Sydney Roosters say they are yet to even speak with sacked Wallaby winger LOTE TUQIRI and would be unable to offer him more than the NRL's minimum wage of $55,000 a year.
The Roosters had emerged as the favourites to snare the dual international's signature but have distanced themselves, while TUQIRI says he will be speaking with several clubs in the coming weeks and taking advice from former mentor WAYNE BENNETT.
NRL boss DAVID GALLOP says TUQIRI will need to clear his alleged off-field misdemeanour with the league before any return to the embattled code.
AAP
The Roosters had emerged as the favourites to snare the dual international's signature but have distanced themselves, while TUQIRI says he will be speaking with several clubs in the coming weeks and taking advice from former mentor WAYNE BENNETT.
NRL boss DAVID GALLOP says TUQIRI will need to clear his alleged off-field misdemeanour with the league before any return to the embattled code.
AAP
Chadman_s_Ghost
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The longer this contract negotiation drags out, the less likely he joins the Tigers IMO. But what a thought heh? Having Lote play for the Tigers really makes next season an enticing option!
That being said, if we end up missing on Lote & end up with Fitzy…not so enticing...
That being said, if we end up missing on Lote & end up with Fitzy…not so enticing...
Tigers recruitment manager Warren McDonnell said they intended to use Tuqiri as a fullback if he signed with the joint venture club.
The Tigers have been on the hunt for a quality custodian since veteran fullback Brett Hodgson left at the end of last season to play for English club Huddersfield.
"He can catch the ball, he can defend well and these days no one is going to pay a fortune for a winger," McDonnell said.
"The fullback is an important spot in our organisation at the moment. We'd let young Tim Moltzen go back to halfback and that's what we'd view him as."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25982656-5018866,00.html
The Tigers have been on the hunt for a quality custodian since veteran fullback Brett Hodgson left at the end of last season to play for English club Huddersfield.
"He can catch the ball, he can defend well and these days no one is going to pay a fortune for a winger," McDonnell said.
"The fullback is an important spot in our organisation at the moment. We'd let young Tim Moltzen go back to halfback and that's what we'd view him as."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25982656-5018866,00.html
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farahs_tigers
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Does Warren McDonnell have any idea whats going on? 2 days ago he says we dont have any positions left in the squad and now says we are talking to him and he will be fullback. Sounds like he does his job as well as his son, Shannon.
Aladinsane
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@Spank said:
If that was the case , why didn't justwe give Hodgo another 2 year contract…..I feel he would have been the difference between maybe missing the 8 and making the top 4\. His Goalkicking would have won us at least 3 more games alone.
His has been a fantasic buy for Huddersford and Moltzen could have sloted into halfback straight from the start of the season.....easy in hindsight I guess
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@Spank said:
Now that does sound promising…
1\. Tuquri
2\. Tuiaki
3\. Ayshford
4\. Lawrence
5\. Ryan/Tupou
6\. Marshall
7\. Moltzen/Lui/Taumata
Lote Tuqiri banned from returning to NRL unless he comes clean
By Paul Kent
August 26, 2009
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The NRL has worked too hard and suffered too many bruises to allow Lote Tuqiri to play rugby league.
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Unless he comes clean.
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NRL boss David Gallop on Tuesday night closed the door on Tuqiri returning to the NRL unless he is willing to reveal what it was that got him sacked by the Australian Rugby Union.
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Unless that happens, Tuqiri's only option is to play overseas.
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Gallop is absolutely correct.
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"We owe it to our stakeholders, particularly our players, who we hold accountable for their behaviour, to understand the reasons for his contract being terminated before we would consider registering him to play in our competition," Gallop said.
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Gallop was careful but specific in his language. The door is shut and only Tuqiri can produce the key.
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There are some who might think this is rich coming from the NRL, which has seen enormous damage to its game, most of it self-inflicted.
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But through all the damage the NRL has acted with the greatest integrity to its fans. It has left them in no doubt as to its stance on what constitutes acceptable behaviour.
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When Sydney Roosters prop Nate Myles mistook the hallway at Terrigal's Crowne Plaza for Schlossy's shoe in July, the NRL released the details itself. It said: "This is what he did and this is his punishment."
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In doing so it reinforced the contract between the game and its fans about acceptable behaviour.
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How can the NRL and its clubs suspend Myles, stand down Brett Stewart, Jake Friend and Greg Inglis, drop Willie Mason, ban Reni Maitua, sack Brett Seymour, deregister Greg Bird, and allow Lote to play?
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What he did might be worse than all of them. Or it might not.
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For that reason, the ARU can't be so proud.
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From the start, John O'Neill and his merry men said they would not release details of Tuqiri's offence - but invited Tuqiri to, if he so wished.
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Tuqiri remained silent. Yet in taking that stance the ARU broke the bonds of trust between itself and its fans.
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It said to every rugby fan "trust us, we know what's good for you".
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But do they? And should it be the ARU's decision?
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That they were aware of this break in trust, and still carried on with it regardless, reflects their concern for what happened.
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Yet it achieved nothing.
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It simply left the whole mess open to rumour and innuendo, with little of it favourable for Tuqiri or the ARU.
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Most of all, it treated long-suffering rugby fans as mugs.
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The ARU board is there for the game. The game is not there for them.
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It can be confirmed, 100 per cent, that Tuqiri's roommate while in Canberra with the Wallabies, Richard Brown, was interviewed by the ARU.
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Yet Brown will not reveal even to teammates what it was about.
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The only public statement came from the Rugby Union Players Association, denouncing the ARU for its handling of the issue .
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Yet RUPA waited almost a week to voice itself - and then only hours before court papers were lodged that muzzled further comment because of legal restrictions.
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You think they didn't know that was coming?
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What it all means is that Lote Tuqiri is lost to Australian football. There is no way the NRL can in good faith register him now.
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Unless he tells what happened.
By Paul Kent
August 26, 2009
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The NRL has worked too hard and suffered too many bruises to allow Lote Tuqiri to play rugby league.
>
Unless he comes clean.
>
NRL boss David Gallop on Tuesday night closed the door on Tuqiri returning to the NRL unless he is willing to reveal what it was that got him sacked by the Australian Rugby Union.
>
Unless that happens, Tuqiri's only option is to play overseas.
>
Gallop is absolutely correct.
>
"We owe it to our stakeholders, particularly our players, who we hold accountable for their behaviour, to understand the reasons for his contract being terminated before we would consider registering him to play in our competition," Gallop said.
>
Gallop was careful but specific in his language. The door is shut and only Tuqiri can produce the key.
>
There are some who might think this is rich coming from the NRL, which has seen enormous damage to its game, most of it self-inflicted.
>
But through all the damage the NRL has acted with the greatest integrity to its fans. It has left them in no doubt as to its stance on what constitutes acceptable behaviour.
>
When Sydney Roosters prop Nate Myles mistook the hallway at Terrigal's Crowne Plaza for Schlossy's shoe in July, the NRL released the details itself. It said: "This is what he did and this is his punishment."
>
In doing so it reinforced the contract between the game and its fans about acceptable behaviour.
>
How can the NRL and its clubs suspend Myles, stand down Brett Stewart, Jake Friend and Greg Inglis, drop Willie Mason, ban Reni Maitua, sack Brett Seymour, deregister Greg Bird, and allow Lote to play?
>
What he did might be worse than all of them. Or it might not.
>
For that reason, the ARU can't be so proud.
>
From the start, John O'Neill and his merry men said they would not release details of Tuqiri's offence - but invited Tuqiri to, if he so wished.
>
Tuqiri remained silent. Yet in taking that stance the ARU broke the bonds of trust between itself and its fans.
>
It said to every rugby fan "trust us, we know what's good for you".
>
But do they? And should it be the ARU's decision?
>
That they were aware of this break in trust, and still carried on with it regardless, reflects their concern for what happened.
>
Yet it achieved nothing.
>
It simply left the whole mess open to rumour and innuendo, with little of it favourable for Tuqiri or the ARU.
>
Most of all, it treated long-suffering rugby fans as mugs.
>
The ARU board is there for the game. The game is not there for them.
>
It can be confirmed, 100 per cent, that Tuqiri's roommate while in Canberra with the Wallabies, Richard Brown, was interviewed by the ARU.
>
Yet Brown will not reveal even to teammates what it was about.
>
The only public statement came from the Rugby Union Players Association, denouncing the ARU for its handling of the issue .
>
Yet RUPA waited almost a week to voice itself - and then only hours before court papers were lodged that muzzled further comment because of legal restrictions.
>
You think they didn't know that was coming?
>
What it all means is that Lote Tuqiri is lost to Australian football. There is no way the NRL can in good faith register him now.
>
Unless he tells what happened.
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farahs_tigers
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I am hoping he does sign but just have a feeling he will end up taking big money to France. We all know the reason he left for union was for money mostly and now he has lost 'millions' by being cut. I just cant see him throwing away another 600-800k on signing with us instead of french rubgy just so he can live in Sydney. I hope I am wrong but will only believe it when Wests Tigers announce it with Tuqiri in a Tigers jersey.
anderson_silva
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@farahs_tigers said:
he just got close to a million dollar pay out from union, im sure he would take around 150-200k for his first year then an upgrade to 300k from there on, he will be hard up getting more then that from any other NRL club, considering inglis and falou are only on 400k a season and they are the 2 best outside backs in the NRL
anderson_silva
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@shifty said:
not yet his new deal maybe but not his current, he is on less then inu
tigergirlz
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FULLBACK - I want Gallant!!!!!!!
By the way - why can't the Roosters afford him - wher does there money go - they're coming last (hahahaha)
If we sign Lote that would be the financially biggest signing ever for the club - worth it????????
A few more Ellis' like players would be better IMo.
By the way - why can't the Roosters afford him - wher does there money go - they're coming last (hahahaha)
If we sign Lote that would be the financially biggest signing ever for the club - worth it????????
A few more Ellis' like players would be better IMo.
@tigergirlz said:
Where does their money go?? Have you looked at their team list lately? Admittedly you may need to look at their NSW Cup team but Mason, O'Meely, Anasta, Pearce… And people here criticise our recruitment!
Remember the Roosters are world champions for paying big bucks for duds, especially in the pre Salary Cap days.
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Wests Tigers leave the ball in Tuqiri's court
Glenn Jackson | August 27, 2009
WESTS TIGERS will make an offer for Lote Tuqiri only once they have received ''genuine interest'' from the sacked Wallaby that he wants to play with the club next season.
Interest in Tuqiri has been described by senior club officials as ''genuine'' and there is a quiet confidence that the fact Tuqiri lives in Balmain - and is believed to be reluctant to uproot his family - may sway him to reject the big money on offer from French rugby club Bayonne.
But, publicly at least, the Tigers are talking down their chances of snaring Tuqiri.
Chief executive Stephen Humphreys said the ball was in Tuqiri's court and - in a sign that ball is less likely to be a Steeden than had been previously thought - was speaking of any prospective deal as being ''possible'' more than ''probable''.
''As we sit here today, probably it's unlikely,'' Humphreys said. ''But it's still possible.''
Negotiations with Bayonne, the club of Tuqiri's former Kangaroos teammate Craig Gower, are understood to be significantly more advanced than they are with the Tigers, whose discussions have involved cups of coffee between the player and coach Tim Sheens last week.
Humphreys admitted the Tigers were ''nowhere near'' making an offer. ''I can't see anything happening quickly,'' Humphreys said. ''He just needs to work out things at his end. If there's interest, then we can see whether it's commercially possible. But we're nowhere near that yet.
''He's got to play it one step at a time … he needs to weigh up his priorities and see where his priorities lie. We've got our priorities as well.
''It needs to start with him saying, 'I genuinely want to play in the NRL'.''
Humphreys did say that if Tuqiri's interest was genuine, he would be likely to consult both NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert and chief executive David Gallop - the latter saying yesterday he would not allow any contract with Tuqiri to be registered without first knowing the circumstances surrounding his sacking from the ARU.
''We've got a few bridges to cross,'' Humphreys said.
In the nearer future, the Wests Tigers' hopes of a finals berth this season took a significant blow last night with front-rower Bryce Gibbs failing in his bid to have a dangerous-contact charge downgraded at the NRL judiciary.
Gibbs was banned for three matches - meaning the Tigers would have to make it through to the second week of the finals for him to play again this year - after his knees-first contact with Parramatta's Luke Burt, which resulted in an eight-point try last Friday night.
The defeat at the hands of the Eels has left the Tigers in 10th place on the NRL ladder and with a lengthy injury toll, including both wingers Taniela Tuiaki and Beau Ryan. Forwards John Skandalis and Chris Heighington are also in doubt to face the Gold Coast on Saturday.
''In the context of our season we paid a very big price for the eight-point try and add into that a three-game suspension for Bryce for what was accepted as accidental contact, it's a tough one for us,'' Humphreys said. ''But we'll accept the judgment and move on.''
And the code has been dealt another positive drugs suspension with Manly under-20s player Shane Gray banned for two years. Gray tested positive to Clenbuterol, the anabolic agent which also led to Cronulla forward Reni Maitua's drugs ban.
An NRL statement said Gray, who tested positive in an out-of-competition swab in June, had accepted the sanction, imposed under the World Anti-Doping Agency code, but had ''made it clear that he has at no time sought to deliberately break the WADA code and remains unaware as to how the substance entered his system''.
Glenn Jackson | August 27, 2009
WESTS TIGERS will make an offer for Lote Tuqiri only once they have received ''genuine interest'' from the sacked Wallaby that he wants to play with the club next season.
Interest in Tuqiri has been described by senior club officials as ''genuine'' and there is a quiet confidence that the fact Tuqiri lives in Balmain - and is believed to be reluctant to uproot his family - may sway him to reject the big money on offer from French rugby club Bayonne.
But, publicly at least, the Tigers are talking down their chances of snaring Tuqiri.
Chief executive Stephen Humphreys said the ball was in Tuqiri's court and - in a sign that ball is less likely to be a Steeden than had been previously thought - was speaking of any prospective deal as being ''possible'' more than ''probable''.
''As we sit here today, probably it's unlikely,'' Humphreys said. ''But it's still possible.''
Negotiations with Bayonne, the club of Tuqiri's former Kangaroos teammate Craig Gower, are understood to be significantly more advanced than they are with the Tigers, whose discussions have involved cups of coffee between the player and coach Tim Sheens last week.
Humphreys admitted the Tigers were ''nowhere near'' making an offer. ''I can't see anything happening quickly,'' Humphreys said. ''He just needs to work out things at his end. If there's interest, then we can see whether it's commercially possible. But we're nowhere near that yet.
''He's got to play it one step at a time … he needs to weigh up his priorities and see where his priorities lie. We've got our priorities as well.
''It needs to start with him saying, 'I genuinely want to play in the NRL'.''
Humphreys did say that if Tuqiri's interest was genuine, he would be likely to consult both NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert and chief executive David Gallop - the latter saying yesterday he would not allow any contract with Tuqiri to be registered without first knowing the circumstances surrounding his sacking from the ARU.
''We've got a few bridges to cross,'' Humphreys said.
In the nearer future, the Wests Tigers' hopes of a finals berth this season took a significant blow last night with front-rower Bryce Gibbs failing in his bid to have a dangerous-contact charge downgraded at the NRL judiciary.
Gibbs was banned for three matches - meaning the Tigers would have to make it through to the second week of the finals for him to play again this year - after his knees-first contact with Parramatta's Luke Burt, which resulted in an eight-point try last Friday night.
The defeat at the hands of the Eels has left the Tigers in 10th place on the NRL ladder and with a lengthy injury toll, including both wingers Taniela Tuiaki and Beau Ryan. Forwards John Skandalis and Chris Heighington are also in doubt to face the Gold Coast on Saturday.
''In the context of our season we paid a very big price for the eight-point try and add into that a three-game suspension for Bryce for what was accepted as accidental contact, it's a tough one for us,'' Humphreys said. ''But we'll accept the judgment and move on.''
And the code has been dealt another positive drugs suspension with Manly under-20s player Shane Gray banned for two years. Gray tested positive to Clenbuterol, the anabolic agent which also led to Cronulla forward Reni Maitua's drugs ban.
An NRL statement said Gray, who tested positive in an out-of-competition swab in June, had accepted the sanction, imposed under the World Anti-Doping Agency code, but had ''made it clear that he has at no time sought to deliberately break the WADA code and remains unaware as to how the substance entered his system''.
