king_sirro
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@diedpretty said:
Moses doesn't have a go? You must not watch the games cos he has a red hot go at least
Lovett, Hoeter amd Moses
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Moses doesn't have a go? You must not watch the games cos he has a red hot go at least
Moses and Brooks were not great but they were hardly the worst ones out there. Richards was woeful and our forwards got zero momentum. Not much you can do as a small, young half if the rest of the team is rubbish.
Some people conveniently forget that games where Brooks and Moses have torn up in first grade. Brooks on his debut against St George and Moses against the Dogs last year, as well as Souths this year - all games where our forward pack fired and set the platform. People also forget that both players destroyed NYC and NSW cup, just like Martin currently is. Just because Moses is struggling a bit in first grade and Martin is doing well in the 20s does not mean Martin > Moses.
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Some people conveniently forget that games where Brooks and Moses have torn up in first grade. Brooks on his debut against St George and Moses against the Dogs last year, as well as Souths this year - all games where our forward pack fired and set the platform. People also forget that both players destroyed NYC and NSW cup, just like Martin currently is. Just because Moses is struggling a bit in first grade and Martin is doing well in the 20s does not mean Martin > Moses.
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fairdinkum
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Farah need to be the first one shown the door.
MacDougall
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I actually thought Moses was our best behind Tedesco. He was having a massive go and nearly pulled off a few huge plays.
How good is Teddy though. Holy crap what would we do without him.
How good is Teddy though. Holy crap what would we do without him.
@Stripes96 said:
When the forwards dont do their work it makes the halves look ordinary. Our forwards with the exception of Woods, Lawrence, Tapau and Lodge are basically useless. Get another 2 or 3 forwards like them that can keep the defensive line on the back foot and suddenly you'll see the magic of Brooks and Moses explode. These kids are obvious natural footballers who have been let down by most of our forward pack.
diedpretty
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Postby diedpretty » Tue 23 Jun, 2015 7:19 pm
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If our forwards don't aim up and get us on the front foot that backline will tear us apart.
Hmmmm.
Tigersmurf
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We let established first graders go last year and did not replace them. We were always going to fill gaps with reserve graders. Maybe our depth and development isn't nearly as good as we thought it was.
Apart from Ted outside we had nothing in attack once Simona was injured,which makes it hard to score points if you dont have a backline.Hoeter is hopeless in every department,Lovett is a average back rower if anything,while both halves were poor.
Why some of these players are continually given chances in FG when it's beyond them astounds me,only at the WT this seems to happen.
Why some of these players are continually given chances in FG when it's beyond them astounds me,only at the WT this seems to happen.
stevied
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I agree, Moses DOES give it a go. He was a bit pass happy today, that's all. However, Lovett, Richards and Hoeter were poor. Teddy's a champion and stood head and shoulders above his team mates in terms of performance, effort and good, old fashioned heart….
Pawsandclaws
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@king sirro said:
Criticising these young players is misguided. Moses and Brooks will turn out to be a fine halves pairing we can build a team around. Lovett also was playing well until switched to centre and the experience he gains this year will be invaluable for next.
bigsiro
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@MacDougall said:
Harsh.
But true.
Pre-season and just looking at rosters I thought we would come dead last, or at least tie for last with Parramatta. Yes, we have an inexperienced side but damn they also happen to play the worst brand of football I have seen. So negative!
Let them off the leash Taylor! We aren't gonna be a threat this year anyway, so let's see what they can do!
happy_tiger
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Simona needs to get far stronger in his upper body / torso , that is causing many of the issues with these ankle / syndesmosis issues
As for Lovett he is a back rower and what happened yesterday was caused for further inside him He needs to run better lines , but his defence is good
I'm not sure where we stand with Hoeter yet , maybe he has some fair weather in him , where he looks good in winning sides but struggles to make an impact in beaten sides He didn't cope well when Mansour roughed him up yesterday and turned the momentum in my opinion
You can't blame or judge either Moses or Brooks when they don't have NRL quality centres or back rowers outside them
As for Lovett he is a back rower and what happened yesterday was caused for further inside him He needs to run better lines , but his defence is good
I'm not sure where we stand with Hoeter yet , maybe he has some fair weather in him , where he looks good in winning sides but struggles to make an impact in beaten sides He didn't cope well when Mansour roughed him up yesterday and turned the momentum in my opinion
You can't blame or judge either Moses or Brooks when they don't have NRL quality centres or back rowers outside them
barrytiger
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Farah should not have played,he is injured and has injured his hand during the game,id rather cherrington 100% fit than Farah playing at 60%,also Lovett in the centres big mistake.
tsjonathan
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@diedpretty said:
the same Moses who got SG Ball player of the year? The kid who led Balmain to the winning the SG Ball comp?
The same kid who set up all those tries in under 20s origin and played alongside Mamo, Gutherson, Matu'utai?
hybrid_tiger
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@tsjonathan said:
Dominating SG ball and 20s means zero in first grade. When will people understand this?
Look, jury is out on Moses, he may make it, he may not. But there is no guarantee he will be as good as promised just because he dominated junior comps.
tsjonathan
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@hybrid_tiger said:
True, but no guarantees he won't be either right?
dazza65
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There's a lot of hysteria here and I don't blame you…... Yesterday was one of the few times I got the chance to head out to a game with the family (few hundred dollars thank you very much - feel sorry for the members lol) and I was pissed. Mighty pissed by the overall performance. However......
Anyone who knows anything about football can't expect Moses and Brooks, at their age and stage, to win games when we have no go forward. In games where we win the ruck they show their potential, what they could be.
We had no grunt from the pigs, no zing from dummy half and the injury to Simona left us with a pedestrian left edge defence that enabled Penrith to have a field day. Lovett and Patty together??? Money for jam for whare and Simmons etc
Disappointing and worrisome. But their are reasons...... Answers? Mmmm
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Anyone who knows anything about football can't expect Moses and Brooks, at their age and stage, to win games when we have no go forward. In games where we win the ruck they show their potential, what they could be.
We had no grunt from the pigs, no zing from dummy half and the injury to Simona left us with a pedestrian left edge defence that enabled Penrith to have a field day. Lovett and Patty together??? Money for jam for whare and Simmons etc
Disappointing and worrisome. But their are reasons...... Answers? Mmmm
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