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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

Kick metres don't mean anything, he doesn't find the grass! Kicks is straight down the throat of wingers and fullbacks, never kicks a 40/20, never kicks early to turn teams around just the same old kick straight to the winger

Can't remember the last time he forced a dropout. 7th is about right cause that's just average not the worst but not the best.

LOL . We are going around in circles . This has been disproved 3 times I think he last few hours , let alone how many in the last few years . If that’s what your going to use as ammunition, then I’d argue you are watching the games with a view for confirmation bias .

How has him having a poor long kicking game been disproved at all? Please enlighten me lol and no, kick metres doesn't mean he has a good long kicking game, it means he hasn't missed a game and does majority of our kicking.

It's clear as day to literally everyone except some tigers fans that brooks is not a game managing controlling halfback who can lead a team around. He's not a terrible player but lacks those important skills

Brooks must be paying some of these fan boys to go into bat for him ..
Mind boggling ?

Why make comments like that ? Everyone has explained thier reasoning and backed it with evidence and hard facts , from what I can see . All I see in return is “BrOoKs IS CrAP” . His long kicking game sux- some replies with facts showing that he’s actually in the top 4 in kicking metrics .
His short kicking sux - someone replies with metrics that state he’s toward the top in repeat sets . He doesn’t create tries - someone replies with stats showing he’s towards the top in try assists . And on and on and on and on it goes .
I’ve said this before . It’s the fact that you associate him with mediocrity, and nothing to do with whether in fact it’s even remotely true .
And for that I understand it . But the moment people make comments about how he’s crap . Well that’s garbage and not true , and the facts and stats and eye test do not back any of those type of comments up.
 
Im a huge fan of brooksy for everything he has given the club. I honestly believe he will succeed if he gets a good team around him. Atm we are not that team and need a no nonsense hard nose half to control the young fellas coming through.
 
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@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

Kick metres don't mean anything, he doesn't find the grass! Kicks is straight down the throat of wingers and fullbacks, never kicks a 40/20, never kicks early to turn teams around just the same old kick straight to the winger

Can't remember the last time he forced a dropout. 7th is about right cause that's just average not the worst but not the best.

LOL . We are going around in circles . This has been disproved 3 times I think he last few hours , let alone how many in the last few years . If that’s what your going to use as ammunition, then I’d argue you are watching the games with a view for confirmation bias .

How has him having a poor long kicking game been disproved at all? Please enlighten me lol and no, kick metres doesn't mean he has a good long kicking game, it means he hasn't missed a game and does majority of our kicking.

It's clear as day to literally everyone except some tigers fans that brooks is not a game managing controlling halfback who can lead a team around. He's not a terrible player but lacks those important skills

Brooks must be paying some of these fan boys to go into bat for him ..
Mind boggling ?

Why make comments like that ? Everyone has explained thier reasoning and backed it with evidence and hard facts , from what I can see . All I see in return is “BrOoKs IS CrAP” . His long kicking game sux- some replies with facts showing that he’s actually in the top 4 in kicking metrics .
His short kicking sux - someone replies with metrics that state he’s toward the top in repeat sets . He doesn’t create tries - someone replies with stats showing he’s towards the top in try assists . And on and on and on and on it goes .
I’ve said this before . It’s the fact that you associate him with mediocrity, and nothing to do with whether in fact it’s even remotely true .
And for that I understand it . But the moment people make comments about how he’s crap . Well that’s garbage and not true , and the facts and stats and eye test do not back any of those type of comments up.

Cause it’s my opinion he’s crap !
You can post all the metrics you like .. it won’t change my mind !
Hopefully the rumours that Brooks is being forced out come true !
 
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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..
 
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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

He should’ve gone to Melbourne or was that bulldust ?
I’m thinking the latter as I’ve never found any articles proving otherwise .
 
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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

He should’ve gone to Melbourne or was that bulldust ?
I’m thinking the latter as I’ve never found any articles proving otherwise .

It wasn't..
 
@jc99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1451503) said:
Any halfback can play well when their team is rolling forward and dominating. Great halfbacks can turn momentum around for their team when they're behind

DCE and Cleary did it yesterday. Both teams were behind and their kicking games and game control helped them get back into it.

When we go behind brooks goes into his shell and doesn't try anything! A good halfback would force some repeat sets, kick a 40/20, do SOMETHING to try and turn the game. Brooks did nothing!

This is very true. I believe Hastings will be better in this space however the big concern is the ability of all of our halves. Brooks, Doueihi, Madden and Hastings to kick long and deep.
I haven’t witnessed a long kicking game from either of them.
 
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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

He should’ve gone to Melbourne or was that bulldust ?
I’m thinking the latter as I’ve never found any articles proving otherwise .

It wasn't..

Articles please
 
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@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't force repeat sets or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his long kicking is just abysmal. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

Serious question, when was the last time Brooks kicked a 40/20 or has he ever kicked one? I think the answer would give a fair measurement of his kicking game.

Wasn't it last week?
 
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@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452173) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't force repeat sets or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his long kicking is just abysmal. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

Serious question, when was the last time Brooks kicked a 40/20 or has he ever kicked one? I think the answer would give a fair measurement of his kicking game.

Wasn't it last week?

And it isn’t done to often by anyone? Not sure that’s a good measurement?
 
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@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't force repeat sets or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his long kicking is just abysmal. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

Serious question, when was the last time Brooks kicked a 40/20 or has he ever kicked one? I think the answer would give a fair measurement of his kicking game.

Wasn't it last week?

And it isn’t done to often by anyone? Not sure that’s a good measurement?

How many 20/40s has he kicked? Let's base judgment on that!!
 
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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

He should’ve gone to Melbourne or was that bulldust ?
I’m thinking the latter as I’ve never found any articles proving otherwise .

Well you already admitted that you think he is crap and nothing would change your mind so why would anyone bother?
 
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Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

He should’ve gone to Melbourne or was that bulldust ?
I’m thinking the latter as I’ve never found any articles proving otherwise .

Well you already admitted that you think he is crap and nothing would change your mind so why would anyone bother?

Cause I know it’s bull ..
Wanted to challenge the happy clappers
 
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@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

He should’ve gone to Melbourne or was that bulldust ?
I’m thinking the latter as I’ve never found any articles proving otherwise .

Well you already admitted that you think he is crap and nothing would change your mind so why would anyone bother?

Cause I know it’s bull ..
Wanted to challenge the happy clappers

Brooks has got an easy pass for too long.
Players moved on, chopped and changed to suit him and he still can't deliver.
He's not a kid any more.

His little fan club has protected him and defended him for too long also. Shifting the blame onto coaching and other players.

Enough is enough.
 
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@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

Seriously , he’d be wearing blue 3 times a year if he did. If the team ever comes good , and actually wins something , the way he’s maligned reminds me of Brett Kimmorley . Obviously Brett won way more , but more the scrutiny . He’s the only other half I’ve ever seen cop the amount that brooks cops . All because he chose to stay loyal. That’s literally most of the reason for the hate . Everyone said “well it’s up to you now” . And he couldn’t do it .
 
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@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452173) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

Seriously , he’d be wearing blue 3 times a year if he did. If the team ever comes good , and actually wins something , the way he’s maligned reminds me of Brett Kimmorley . Obviously Brett won way more , but more the scrutiny . He’s the only other half I’ve ever seen cop the amount that brooks cops . All because he chose to stay loyal. That’s literally most of the reason for the hate . Everyone said “well it’s up to you now” . And he couldn’t do it .

I don’t hate him … I don’t hate anyone..well except Nofoalooza ( I hate him)
I just reckon he sucks .
As for staying loyal lol
No one else wanted him !
 
Yup, kick metres is definitely a good way to measure how good someone's long kicking game is 😂 bugger me the dumbest thing I've ever read.

He's only up there in kick metres because he hasn't missed a game and does majority of the long kicking. It in NO WAY proves he has good long kicking lmao

Engaging the line sure is a decent stat but that doesn't disprove any of his other weaknesses (game management, footy smarts etc)

If you want stats hes 26th in the league for line break assists - below both Mbye and Doueihi. 3rd most errors in our team. 9th in the NRL for missed tackles. 5th in the league for penalties given away

He's got a lot more negative stats than positive ones, but that's not even a good way to judge a halfback. He has MORE try assists than Nathan Cleary, doesn't mean he's a better player.
 
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@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452180) said:
@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452173) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't force repeat sets or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his long kicking is just abysmal. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

Serious question, when was the last time Brooks kicked a 40/20 or has he ever kicked one? I think the answer would give a fair measurement of his kicking game.

Wasn't it last week?

@Leck answered me, it was a couple weeks ago, i asked because i didn't recall him ever kicking one, but i suppose that would be due to me looking away from the tv screen most of the time fearing about another try will be conceded by our team or too disgusted about another dumb error, so that's why i miss watching most of the gane ?
@leck said, Against the Dogs
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/08/08/brooks-drills-a-4020/

But it’s been his only one this year
 
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@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452173) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

Seriously , he’d be wearing blue 3 times a year if he did. If the team ever comes good , and actually wins something , the way he’s maligned reminds me of Brett Kimmorley . Obviously Brett won way more , but more the scrutiny . He’s the only other half I’ve ever seen cop the amount that brooks cops . All because he chose to stay loyal. That’s literally most of the reason for the hate . Everyone said “well it’s up to you now” . And he couldn’t do it .

I don’t hate him … I don’t hate anyone..well except Nofoalooza ( I hate him)
I just reckon he sucks .
As for staying loyal lol
No one else wanted him !


Dislike is a much better word to use, to hate someone only starting eating away at yourself.
 
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@geo said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452173) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1452127) said:
Backing a half that can’t even get a repeat set … laughable

He is actually 7th in the NRL for fdo.. shocked me too..

1st for line engaged, he and AD only non top 8 halves in top 10 for TA's, Top 5 for kick metres.

If we made the 8, this thread doesnt exist. If we could defend, we are in the 8.

Yep and the plan to address that appears to be move on anyone that can actually defend at NRL Standard

What’s the point in paying and playing a half just to tackle ?
He’s got no kicking game mate ..
is that why he’s a half .. only has half a game ?

He’s had heaps of try assists this year off kicks ! What are you talking about? The lack of kicking yesterday , to me , appears to have been a tactic to nullify thier back 3 . Worked until they took hitups and ran at the middle third , and Walters’ arm grabbing and Tuki just bouncing off stronger more developed men .

Also we just haven’t figured out where the thresholds are with holding down in the ruck . Other teams have it sussed . We are either too long or short , every week . Seriously we have Gavin Badger , how is he not on top of this . I would make it his direct responsibility to get the ruck speed right .

The only kick he's got is the chip kick near the try line for Maumalo or Doueihi. He doesn't ***force repeat sets*** or set up tries with grubber, he doesn't kick 40/20's and his ***long kicking is just abysmal***. It's the biggest weakness in his game and in a league that relies on pressure and field position more and more every week it's costly

7th in the NRL for forced drop outs, 4th in the NRL for kick metres. He isnt God but this narrative that he is abysmal has no basis in reality (waiting for I see it with my own eyes and dont need stats...).

It’s called context mate ..
he’s a dumb player !

Sure is..should have been smart like Tedesco..screw Wests Tigers..

Seriously , he’d be wearing blue 3 times a year if he did. If the team ever comes good , and actually wins something , the way he’s maligned reminds me of Brett Kimmorley . Obviously Brett won way more , but more the scrutiny . He’s the only other half I’ve ever seen cop the amount that brooks cops . All because he chose to stay loyal. That’s literally most of the reason for the hate . Everyone said “well it’s up to you now” . And he couldn’t do it .

I don’t hate him … I don’t hate anyone..well except Nofoalooza ( I hate him)
I just reckon he sucks .
As for staying loyal lol
No one else wanted him !


Dislike is a much better word to use, to hate someone only starting eating away at yourself.

Gone past dislike with Nofo mate
 
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