Luke Brooks

[JC99]

I think there's plenty of pressure on Brooks this season - he's one of our senior players, Benji is gone so there's no blaming on being overruled for the football. I think our forward pack is pretty solid, stronger than last year and Liddle provides excellent service, so the ingredients for Brooks to play well are there.

If he doesn't deliver I can see him being shopped around. At some point the investment either returns a dividend or it goes bust. That time is just about upon Brooks.

There's truly no excuses for him.... I'm sure people will try though.

 

[Telltails]

Anyone with a level of self belief or confidence to make decisions will continue to impact on Brooks ability to lead until he demonstrates that he is prepared to back himself. All those who have played inside or outside him have been blamed at some point but the way I see it none of those players trusted him to do the job - and that lies solely on Brooks shoulders. I hope that changes this year because he is more than capable.

 

[KevB]

I said it before and I will say it again. Harry Grant only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it. Ours forwards go forward suffered, our halfback suffered and our backline suffered.
Yes Harry played well in Origin. Against a side, one man down, against a tired defence and only 33% possession. If Bennet thought he was that good he would have been starting.
I dont normally defend Brooks but with Liddle, he will get cleaner and quicker ball. Wait and watch for improvement in our go forward and consequently our attack in general. I expect Brooks to have a much better year. Harry has still a lot to learn.
Yes, I know, with some on the forum, it was Benji's fault.

You are kidding mate, Grant was more times than not, when he played was one of our best players. "He only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it" you made that up. There is a little more to being a dummy half than just passing the ball from the ground at the play the ball.

 

[Krammy]

2021 will tell how good Brooks is. I have faith in his ability, but he needs a big year. I am quietly confident he will deliver.

 

[Magpieger]

Doohey will be the man ..
Brooks sucks ...

There I said it ..

Could help if you could try and spell his name correctly...

I agree, Adam ‘Doueihi’ will play his best footy this year at 6

Brooks needs a smart halves partner that plays the field laterally and can stretch the opponents defensive line

When Brooks has that space, his run, passing and kicking game is excellent

Doohey

Should have taken up the offer in the essay writing thread, it may have been a help with your spelling.

Doohey

I feel like a Doohey's...
I feel like a Doohey's...
I feel like a Doohey's or twooooo...

 

[Deleted member 3518]

What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

NSW was destroyed by the old mate Penrith connection of bare foot Freddy and Alexander the greats big heads and Teddys injury.Destroyed ? Grant was good and gives 100% but i think he is a touch overated.This year will tell.

I think Grant will be very different at the Storm. I said last year, after the hype started building he was overplaying his hand significantly. I think this year he will need to fit his game into Melbourne's structure.

He'll look even better behind a stronger pack. Bellamy will make sure that Harry is still using his strengths which is running the footy a lot and constantly following the footy. He will smash it wherever he plays

Bet you he doesn’t
Edit ; I think he will be game planned for . And he will have to adjust . How quickly that happens might be 1 or 2 games , might be a whole season . Second year syndrome hits every single player

As if Bellamy won't be able to change that if players target him. If he's getting rushed up on he'll start passing more and creating opportunities out wide. Melbourne are always one step ahead and Harry is that gifted of a natural footballer he'll be fine. Only reason he might not stand out as much is because he's not playing for an average team ?

Seriously dude , is he your cousin ? Or boyfriend , son ? Like it’s ok if this kid is a human being . In fact most people learn by failure , and I guarantee coaches will figure him out , and he will have to adjust . Ponga had to this year . Most players do in thier second year.
He wasn’t the greatest rookie ever lol . At some point this season there will be an article about his drop in form . I guarantee it .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I think there's plenty of pressure on Brooks this season - he's one of our senior players, Benji is gone so there's no blaming on being overruled for the football. I think our forward pack is pretty solid, stronger than last year and Liddle provides excellent service, so the ingredients for Brooks to play well are there.

If he doesn't deliver I can see him being shopped around. At some point the investment either returns a dividend or it goes bust. That time is just about upon Brooks.

There's truly no excuses for him.... I'm sure people will try though.

I won’t be . I’m just highly confident that I will be right and he will prove what a few of us have been saying the whole time .

 

[Magpieger]

Brooksy, Brooksy, he's our man,
If he can't do it, no-one...will...

 

[Harvey]

I said it before and I will say it again. Harry Grant only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it. Ours forwards go forward suffered, our halfback suffered and our backline suffered.
Yes Harry played well in Origin. Against a side, one man down, against a tired defence and only 33% possession. If Bennet thought he was that good he would have been starting.
I dont normally defend Brooks but with Liddle, he will get cleaner and quicker ball. Wait and watch for improvement in our go forward and consequently our attack in general. I expect Brooks to have a much better year. Harry has still a lot to learn.
Yes, I know, with some on the forum, it was Benji's fault.

You are kidding mate, Grant was more times than not, when he played was one of our best players. "He only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it" you made that up. There is a little more to being a dummy half than just passing the ball from the ground at the play the ball.

He brought me back to the late Farah years. If the opposition is on the backfoot, go yourself and when it breaks down look for support.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Has there ever been a player given so many excuses for under performing as Brooks?
He's got talent but obviously not much nous.
Keep taking the wrong options this year and he'll be saying goodbye.
Looks like we might finally have a younger halfback to put some pressure on him.

The excuses just keep rolling in it seems.

It Grants service
It's Benji
It's our forwards
It's the game plan
It's the coach
It's the bus driver
It's his mum not putting enough Vegemite on his toast
It's the weather
It's the culture
It's Mabo
It's the serenity
It's Brooks life matters
It's covid
It's the price of Bananas after a cyclone
It's the colour of his boots
It's the ball
It's the refs
It's the vibe
It's the media putting big wraps on him too early
It's his carspot at training
It's single mums
It's the phase of the moon
It's Demons
It's the Devil

3 try assists,
C'mon Lukey boy you can do better mate.

Is there a halfback under more pressure in 2021?

You are not the only fan disappointed with how his career has gone. But please be more reasonable in your assessment.
Can you name one halfback who would've been competent in taking this team to the finals over the last 7 years? Or capable of making us a Top 4 quality team in the same period? A halfback good enough to elevate this whole team?
Because I'm not sure if I'm following you correctly and it sounds like you think Brooks is a big failure for not successfully doing this by now.
That would've been a complete miracle, considering the sole responsibility doesn't fall on one player but rather how the team is made up and plays as a unit. The most ever-changing one in the NRL, at that. With the coaching instability to go with it.

Fair enough you feel a certain way and think he's unable to lead the team to glory but some of your points relate to factors which are not of Luke's account and exclude the biggest reason or highest contributing factors on why teams are excelling. (They have had dominant forward packs, well established combinations with their spine players, great strike players etc., etc.).
I believe the last time we had a team that closely resembled this was in 2010 and 2011.
So, it's any wonder the trajectory of his development and career has gone so wayward given the inconsistency has always been at foundation level.
Honestly don't see how any player in his position could've thrived in this environment. I otherwise couldn't agree more you though, that last year should be the biggest wake up call for him.

Did you see the stats of the halfbacks of the teams that finished below us last year?

 

[Hangonaminute]

Doohey will be the man ..
Brooks sucks ...

There I said it ..

Could help if you could try and spell his name correctly...

I agree, Adam ‘Doueihi’ will play his best footy this year at 6

Brooks needs a smart halves partner that plays the field laterally and can stretch the opponents defensive line

When Brooks has that space, his run, passing and kicking game is excellent

Brooks needs this, Brooks needs that ?

 

[Hangonaminute]

Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Sometimes I read your comments and think , does this guy really hate himself ? Cause nothing that happens around the team , which is basically on this forum , are you ever complimentary about . Do you have kids ? Are you this hard on them ? The dude wins halfback of the year , Nofa wins wing of the year , and guys are saying thier actually still crap , all the judges of the awards don’t know what thier talking about ! What’s more likely , that you need to change your outlook ,’or everyone else is wrong and bad judge ?

Yes I hate myself and I flog my 9 children all day everyday.

My "outlook" is one of reality, that reality is Brooks had 3 try assists last year equal to the halfback of the team that got the spoon who is pretty much a rookie half.
I don't do the stats, just calling it as I see it and 3 try assists for a NRL halfback is below poor

 

[Tim Sheens]

I said it before and I will say it again. Harry Grant only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it. Ours forwards go forward suffered, our halfback suffered and our backline suffered.
Yes Harry played well in Origin. Against a side, one man down, against a tired defence and only 33% possession. If Bennet thought he was that good he would have been starting.
I dont normally defend Brooks but with Liddle, he will get cleaner and quicker ball. Wait and watch for improvement in our go forward and consequently our attack in general. I expect Brooks to have a much better year. Harry has still a lot to learn.
Yes, I know, with some on the forum, it was Benji's fault.

You are kidding mate, Grant was more times than not, when he played was one of our best players. "He only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it" you made that up. There is a little more to being a dummy half than just passing the ball from the ground at the play the ball.

He brought me back to the late Farah years. If the opposition is on the backfoot, go yourself and when it breaks down look for support.

Though to Farah's credit and I haven’t been much of a fan since 2012/13, I noticed some change. Assuming at the demand of the traitor when he brought him back and then Maguire, begrudgingly he did adjust his game a little and it showed to my eyes, even if age had wearied him and felt we got further past the advantage line when he was interchanged for Liddle when fit.

Regardless of the individual's abilities, a team functions as a sum of it's parts and I agree that cohesion was again lacking in this key area last season. We will soon see if WT are more fluid from the ruck in the coming weeks as the jerseys get dusted off and we need to be.

If Brooks isn't back to where he was on the back of that this coming season, I will reluctantly submit to those long wanting change at halfback, whilst hoping that those same others will finally get off his back when he shines again.

 

[happy_tiger]

What excuse will fans have at season's end if he fails again

We have a 2 million budget for 2022 ...he will kill it ....

I don't know about anyone else ...but if I failed in my job for 7/8 years running and had one good year ...I am looking for a new career

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Sometimes I read your comments and think , does this guy really hate himself ? Cause nothing that happens around the team , which is basically on this forum , are you ever complimentary about . Do you have kids ? Are you this hard on them ? The dude wins halfback of the year , Nofa wins wing of the year , and guys are saying thier actually still crap , all the judges of the awards don’t know what thier talking about ! What’s more likely , that you need to change your outlook ,’or everyone else is wrong and bad judge ?

Yes I hate myself and I flog my 9 children all day everyday.

My "outlook" is one of reality, that reality is Brooks had 3 try assists last year equal to the halfback of the team that got the spoon who is pretty much a rookie half.
I don't do the stats, just calling it as I see it and 3 try assists for a NRL halfback is below poor

Nobody is debating with you about last year . It was a bad year for him. But you keep saying he’s rubbish when he was at the top of the tree in try assists and repeat sets the 2 years prior . But people like you conveniently went quiet around that time , as well as forget that time even existed . All I want is a balanced , opinion , of which you never seem to give . On anything .even when I agree with you , it’s so ,black and white , with a complete disregard for the other persons opinion, or whether or not they may have a few good points , if their entire argument is flawed in the end . But you never acknowledge it. I personally find it frustrating , as it’s a general reflection of how this world is , and how so many people view conceding any ground as to lose the whole battle. It just closes off any chance of common ground . And you do it more than most IMO.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I said it before and I will say it again. Harry Grant only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it. Ours forwards go forward suffered, our halfback suffered and our backline suffered.
Yes Harry played well in Origin. Against a side, one man down, against a tired defence and only 33% possession. If Bennet thought he was that good he would have been starting.
I dont normally defend Brooks but with Liddle, he will get cleaner and quicker ball. Wait and watch for improvement in our go forward and consequently our attack in general. I expect Brooks to have a much better year. Harry has still a lot to learn.
Yes, I know, with some on the forum, it was Benji's fault.

You are kidding mate, Grant was more times than not, when he played was one of our best players. "He only passed the ball when he no longer could do anything with it" you made that up. There is a little more to being a dummy half than just passing the ball from the ground at the play the ball.

He brought me back to the late Farah years. If the opposition is on the backfoot, go yourself and when it breaks down look for support.

Though to Farah's credit and I haven’t been much of a fan since 2012/13, I noticed some change. Assuming at the demand of the traitor when he brought him back and then Maguire, begrudgingly he did adjust his game a little and it showed to my eyes, even if age had wearied him and felt we got further past the advantage line when he was interchanged for Liddle when fit.

Regardless of the individual's abilities, a team functions as a sum of it's parts and I agree that cohesion was again lacking in this key area last season. We will soon see if WT are more fluid from the ruck in the coming weeks as the jerseys get dusted off and we need to be.

If Brooks isn't back to where he was on the back of that this coming season, I will reluctantly submit to those long wanting change at halfback, whilst hoping that those same others will finally get off his back when he shines again.

Me too mate . I’ve been very vocal in my support of Brooks , it’s an island I’m willing to pitch my flag to , as confident as I am , I will be very dissapointed if he just becomes another foot note in tigers history . And I will happily concede I was wrong and give the Jock Maddens of the world my full support .
But until that day . I will continue to defend him and back him. Cause I think he’s that good.

 

[happy_tiger]

Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Sometimes I read your comments and think , does this guy really hate himself ? Cause nothing that happens around the team , which is basically on this forum , are you ever complimentary about . Do you have kids ? Are you this hard on them ? The dude wins halfback of the year , Nofa wins wing of the year , and guys are saying thier actually still crap , all the judges of the awards don’t know what thier talking about ! What’s more likely , that you need to change your outlook ,’or everyone else is wrong and bad judge ?

Yes I hate myself and I flog my 9 children all day everyday.

My "outlook" is one of reality, that reality is Brooks had 3 try assists last year equal to the halfback of the team that got the spoon who is pretty much a rookie half.
I don't do the stats, just calling it as I see it and 3 try assists for a NRL halfback is below poor

Nobody is debating with you about last year . It was a bad year for him. But you keep saying he’s rubbish when he was at the top of the tree in try assists and repeat sets the 2 years prior . But people like you conveniently went quiet around that time , as well as forget that time even existed . All I want is a balanced , opinion , of which you never seem to give . On anything .even when I agree with you , it’s so ,black and white , with a complete disregard for the other persons opinion, or whether or not they may have a few good points , if their entire argument is flawed in the end . But you never acknowledge it. I personally find it frustrating , as it’s a general reflection of how this world is , and how so many people view conceding any ground as to lose the whole battle. It just closes off any chance of common ground . And you do it more than most IMO.

But 3 years ago might as well be 35 years ago

The only true guide for 2021 is 2020 unless he was injured

And i asked the question a 100 times last year ..is Brooks carrying an injury ..and the people who know Brooks the most didn't reply ...so I'm guessing no he wasn't injured

This HAS to be his last chance ...if he fails again in 2021 ...Madge HAS to let him go ...no excuses ....and if he doesn't the club must question Madge ...exactly how Porky Morgan watched Bennett's dealing with Lewis in Lewis 2nd last season at Brisbane ...if Bennett didn't let Lewis go ...Bennett was gone

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Sometimes I read your comments and think , does this guy really hate himself ? Cause nothing that happens around the team , which is basically on this forum , are you ever complimentary about . Do you have kids ? Are you this hard on them ? The dude wins halfback of the year , Nofa wins wing of the year , and guys are saying thier actually still crap , all the judges of the awards don’t know what thier talking about ! What’s more likely , that you need to change your outlook ,’or everyone else is wrong and bad judge ?

Yes I hate myself and I flog my 9 children all day everyday.

My "outlook" is one of reality, that reality is Brooks had 3 try assists last year equal to the halfback of the team that got the spoon who is pretty much a rookie half.
I don't do the stats, just calling it as I see it and 3 try assists for a NRL halfback is below poor

Nobody is debating with you about last year . It was a bad year for him. But you keep saying he’s rubbish when he was at the top of the tree in try assists and repeat sets the 2 years prior . But people like you conveniently went quiet around that time , as well as forget that time even existed . All I want is a balanced , opinion , of which you never seem to give . On anything .even when I agree with you , it’s so ,black and white , with a complete disregard for the other persons opinion, or whether or not they may have a few good points , if their entire argument is flawed in the end . But you never acknowledge it. I personally find it frustrating , as it’s a general reflection of how this world is , and how so many people view conceding any ground as to lose the whole battle. It just closes off any chance of common ground . And you do it more than most IMO.

But 3 years ago might as well be 35 years ago

The only true guide for 2021 is 2020 unless he was injured

And i asked the question a 100 times last year ..is Brooks carrying an injury ..and the people who know Brooks the most didn't reply ...so I'm guessing no he wasn't injured

This HAS to be his last chance ...if he fails again in 2021 ...Madge HAS to let him go ...no excuses ....and if he doesn't the club must question Madge ...exactly how Porky Morgan watched Bennett's dealing with Lewis in Lewis 2nd last season at Brisbane ...if Bennett didn't let Lewis go ...Bennett was gone

How can you say things like “2 years might as well be 35 years “ and in the same breath say it’s his last chance . You’re acknowledging, he’s already proven it before , yet saying what have you done for me lately . The only way I can understand this thought process is that during the 2 years prior to last , you were death riding him , and the moment he had a form drop you jumped on it . Which to me says , he could win us a 1000 games and you would still want someone else . Which is a bias you need to acknowledge, not necessarily the player himself .

 

[happy_tiger]

Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Sometimes I read your comments and think , does this guy really hate himself ? Cause nothing that happens around the team , which is basically on this forum , are you ever complimentary about . Do you have kids ? Are you this hard on them ? The dude wins halfback of the year , Nofa wins wing of the year , and guys are saying thier actually still crap , all the judges of the awards don’t know what thier talking about ! What’s more likely , that you need to change your outlook ,’or everyone else is wrong and bad judge ?

Yes I hate myself and I flog my 9 children all day everyday.

My "outlook" is one of reality, that reality is Brooks had 3 try assists last year equal to the halfback of the team that got the spoon who is pretty much a rookie half.
I don't do the stats, just calling it as I see it and 3 try assists for a NRL halfback is below poor

Nobody is debating with you about last year . It was a bad year for him. But you keep saying he’s rubbish when he was at the top of the tree in try assists and repeat sets the 2 years prior . But people like you conveniently went quiet around that time , as well as forget that time even existed . All I want is a balanced , opinion , of which you never seem to give . On anything .even when I agree with you , it’s so ,black and white , with a complete disregard for the other persons opinion, or whether or not they may have a few good points , if their entire argument is flawed in the end . But you never acknowledge it. I personally find it frustrating , as it’s a general reflection of how this world is , and how so many people view conceding any ground as to lose the whole battle. It just closes off any chance of common ground . And you do it more than most IMO.

But 3 years ago might as well be 35 years ago

The only true guide for 2021 is 2020 unless he was injured

And i asked the question a 100 times last year ..is Brooks carrying an injury ..and the people who know Brooks the most didn't reply ...so I'm guessing no he wasn't injured

This HAS to be his last chance ...if he fails again in 2021 ...Madge HAS to let him go ...no excuses ....and if he doesn't the club must question Madge ...exactly how Porky Morgan watched Bennett's dealing with Lewis in Lewis 2nd last season at Brisbane ...if Bennett didn't let Lewis go ...Bennett was gone

How can you say things like “2 years might as well be 35 years “ and in the same breath say it’s his last chance . You’re acknowledging, he’s already proven it before , yet saying what have you done for me lately . The only way I can understand this thought process is that during the 2 years prior to last , you were death riding him , and the moment he had a form drop you jumped on it . Which to me says , he could win us a 1000 games and you would still want someone else . Which is a bias you need to acknowledge, not necessarily the player himself .

The point is where do you draw the line ...in 3 years time do we keep accepting a downturn if it continues

Look at the Roosters ..they saw Flanagan wasn't the man and he is gone ......

In all reality Brooks has had one acceptable season in 7..if you want to accept this ..thats fine

Yes he improved his defence immensely ..and that is kudos to him and the hard work he puts in ...and he tries his arse off every week ...no one could question that .....but if he doesn't get it done this year he has to go .....this club needs to stop carrying players based on potential ...the problem is we are heading in the exact same direction with Liddle ...and if he fails in 2021 he needs to go as well

No more 2nd ,3rd ,4th or 5th chances ..draw a line in the sand Madge and if they don't cut it .....bye bye ...don't let the door hit you on your way out

And finally if Brooks doesn't play to his Halfback of the year form ...we are cooked ...we will finish bottom 4

 

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He was constantly picking the wrong options. Passed instead of running, ran instead of passed. Teams had him figured out all year and he didn't adjust, his short kicking was awful could barely find a repeat set and his long kicking/game management sucked, he couldn't find the grass in the corner of the field if his life depended on it.

This is what I also see as his biggest issue when under pressure. Even if the forwards are not going forward, even if the pass isn't ideal, even if you are not at full fitness... you MUST be able to constantly make the right decisions the majority of the time if you are a quality rugby league #7.
But Luke has a history of often taking the wrong option, making a predetermined play instead of the right play for that moment, especially when the pressure is on - which is when he's needed most!