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Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.
 
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?
 
The way I see it is, rank each of the Wests Tigers players in order from 1 to 30.

Where does Brooks place on the list for everyone?

If he’s top 5, There’s the answer you need.
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.
 
@isaaktigers said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354635) said:
The way I see it is, rank each of the Wests Tigers players in order from 1 to 30.

Where does Brooks place on the list for everyone?

If he’s top 5, There’s the answer you need.

The top sides have guys that can win you a match all over the park. ours has a 7 on his back. That’s why he gets criticised (unfairly).
 
@isaaktigers said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354635) said:
The way I see it is, rank each of the Wests Tigers players in order from 1 to 30.

Where does Brooks place on the list for everyone?

If he’s top 5, There’s the answer you need.

For games played / highest earner I’ve got Packer at 1
 
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

Haha elite halfback. Every other club would snap him up... pls take him. 7 years with brooks at half back and no finals I think its over. I will welcome jackson hastings next yr as our 7. The writing is on the wall.
 
@haberfield_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354646) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

Haha elite halfback. Every other club would snap him up... pls take him. 7 years with brooks at half back and no finals I think its over. I will welcome jackson hastings next yr as our 7. The writing is on the wall.

I literally just said he’s not elite . Have another read buddy
 
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354644) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354656) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354644) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

Haha we messed him up.. u got to be kidding he's a professional football player. He has control of his form and only him.. there is no more growth in him. He has peaked and unfortunately he has folded like a deck chair to douhie a 6 game rookie... the club did everything they could to give him the opportunity. Unfortunately he has not stepped up.....
 
@haberfield_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354665) said:
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Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

Haha we messed him up.. u got to be kidding he's a professional football player. He has control of his form and only him.. there is no more growth in him. He has peaked and unfortunately he has folded like a deck chair to **douhie a 6 game rookie**... the club did everything they could to give him the opportunity. Unfortunately he has not stepped up.....

Doueihi has played 57 NRL games
 
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354674) said:
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@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354656) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354644) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

Haha we messed him up.. u got to be kidding he's a professional football player. He has control of his form and only him.. there is no more growth in him. He has peaked and unfortunately he has folded like a deck chair to **douhie a 6 game rookie**... the club did everything they could to give him the opportunity. Unfortunately he has not stepped up.....

Doueihi has played 57 NRL games

At 5/8th for us =6
 
@lauren said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354370) said:
I'm a person that has often noted the poor performance culture at the club as justification for Luke's poor development. While I haven't specifically blamed Benji or Robbie as the main cause for disruption, I do however believe that the club's previous organisational incompetence, quality of the team and frequent instability are major factors.
I can recognise that he's got some deficiencies  and poor leadership qualities including a lack of valour. Yet I believe he can turn things around given he can work on the mental, physical, tactical and technical elements of his game.

We all obviously don't see eye to eye on that and it's understandable but no offence my(or anyone else) applying this reasoning isn't to make excuses. In fact, they both mean completely different things.
When the Brooks supporters on here, myself included, stand by these reasons to why he's unable to produce certain traits/plays (being vocal, his kicks and try assists the most common) it isn't to be combative at all but we're simply applying some logic to why he's undeveloped in these areas.
In all team sports, an individual's growth is dependent on the coaching and team around him too. So at present not only would he be working on building on his own skills and other new ones, but he'd also be learning how to modify his game to serve or suit the needs of another newly formed team.

I'd say the only concern is his confidence and if he can take accountability of it he'd be in more control of everything.

Seriously Luke Brookes has played over 150 NRL games and you assert he "LACKS VALOUR" my understanding of word valour means courage. With respect Lauren if you believe anyone who has played 150 games of NRL lacks courage you havE no idea what it takes to play at this level.
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354656) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354644) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .


Its not really called the high road, its called moving on from a disagreement.

You should try it.
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354656) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354644) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354640) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354636) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354633) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1354631) said:
Hope that Strongee's little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the "my opinion - your opinion and the truth" thing.

**My opinion =** Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

**Your Opinion =** Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

**The Truth =** Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?


Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would ? disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .


You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

How did WT mess him up? Curious to hear the evidence behind this one...
 
A h/b on 1/2 Brooks's money playing twice as good as him would not keep some happy,until we find that i think where stuck with him
 
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