Luke Brooks

[Viking Warrior]

Excuses never seem to stop.
If you can’t see the bloke is a bonehead your not looking too closely.

Why the personal attack?

Lol you must have thin skin if you class that as personal? I think he sucks my opinion of course

You don’t spend a decade on this forum if you have thin skin. Bag his game all you like, but what has he done to warrant name calling?

What are you trying to say? Is your interpretation of Cktigers post saying it was personal because you have been here 10 years?? Sounds to me like you are trying to shoot down his opinion and make it something it's not to make yourself feel justified.

First off, my reference to being here 10 years was in response to you, not him. Second, he called him a bonehead, there was nothing to interpret. Nothing to do with the way he plays. He’s become so disliked by some that it’s no longer enough to bag him out for being a poor player. He now cops it for being an imp, an introvert and now a bonehead. I don’t think he’s ever done anything off the field to warrant any of that.

You're not a mod so stop trying to act all righteous if what he said was so bad then it would have been deleted. Use the flag post as and the mods can decide. Simple

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Excuses never seem to stop.
If you can’t see the bloke is a bonehead your not looking too closely.

Why the personal attack?

Lol you must have thin skin if you class that as personal? I think he sucks my opinion of course

You don’t spend a decade on this forum if you have thin skin. Bag his game all you like, but what has he done to warrant name calling?

What are you trying to say? Is your interpretation of Cktigers post saying it was personal because you have been here 10 years?? Sounds to me like you are trying to shoot down his opinion and make it something it's not to make yourself feel justified.

First off, my reference to being here 10 years was in response to you, not him. Second, he called him a bonehead, there was nothing to interpret. Nothing to do with the way he plays. He’s become so disliked by some that it’s no longer enough to bag him out for being a poor player. He now cops it for being an imp, an introvert and now a bonehead. I don’t think he’s ever done anything off the field to warrant any of that.

You're not a mod so stop trying to act all righteous if what he said was so bad then it would have been deleted. Use the flag post as and the mods can decide. Simple

Never pretended to be a mod or said it should be deleted. You’re squawking at me for being righteous, yet here you are trying to fight in another man’s honour.

 

[Champ]

Luke Brooks 2021- statistical performance among halfbacks
Try Assists - 23 (4th best)
Try Contributions - 13 (4th best)
Runs - 161 (3rd best)
Run meters - 1378 (3rd Best)
Line Breaks - 5 (10th best)
Line Break Assists - 14 (6th Best)
Tackle Breaks - 45 (4th Best)
Effective Offloads - 23 (3rd Best)
Errors - 23 (5th worst but better then DCE, Hunt, Reynolds, Clifford)
Penalties - 14 (worst amongst halves)
**Possessions - 1450 (most possessions of any half in the comp)**
Line Engagements - 354 (most in comp)
General Play Passes - 846 (most in comp)
Line Drop Outs forced - 12 (7th best)
Kick Meters - 6862 (5th best)
Attacking Kicks - 127 (2nd most)
Kicks Dead -3 (12th most)
Kick Errors - 7 (equal 8th)
Try Causes - 16 (3rd worst)
LB Causes - 18 (equal 3rd worst) behind DCE, Dearden and equla with Reynolds
Tackle Effectiveness - 82% (20th worst) better then likes of Cleary, Harris Tevita, Moses,Walker, Townsend, Clifford, Hunt, Johnson

Now I'm not saying Brooks was perfect but given how week the team was around him these indicate that the problem to me isnt Brooks

Mate I think the stat I've highlighted is the most important for several reasons. A lot of Brooks' stats of being either one of the best or one of the worst in the areas recorded are partly because of his large amount of possessions. Cut them back to average and he's more than likely going to come back to the field across the other stats.

But what it shows more than anything is that despite all those possessions and chances to do so, he still can't make good things happen for us enough. Obviously he is supposed to be our play maker and game manager and we pay him accordingly but he just can't pull that off.

And this is the issue. We're paying him to do a job he's not capable of. He's a good footballer etc etc but not the answer. It seems Madge has tried a lot of things to get him to the next level even handing him captaincy but nothing has inspired him to play at his best with any consistency at all.

As a second fiddle half he'd be fine, but would need to take a pay cut of a couple hundred k. In the current climate another club would be willing to roll the dice and pay him the top dog salary. Which is fine but with our current roster we still need him, the hard truth is that he is still better than our other options.

Barra hit the nail on the head. For anyone who missed it , take the time to look at the vid Paws&claws posted. Brooks will do a fantastic job when he can just play footy. Cant run the team , never has & never will. Hastings will do a solid job running the team, take all the pressure off Brooks & Brooks will rediscover the skills he has shown in the past.Instead of the traitor/prostitute Tedesco, it will be Laurie scoring the tries for us. Its gonna happen.

 

[KingRobbie]

Excuses never seem to stop.
If you can’t see the bloke is a bonehead your not looking too closely.

Why the personal attack?

Lol you must have thin skin if you class that as personal? I think he sucks my opinion of course

You don’t spend a decade on this forum if you have thin skin. Bag his game all you like, but what has he done to warrant name calling?

What are you trying to say? Is your interpretation of Cktigers post saying it was personal because you have been here 10 years?? Sounds to me like you are trying to shoot down his opinion and make it something it's not to make yourself feel justified.

First off, my reference to being here 10 years was in response to you, not him. Second, he called him a bonehead, there was nothing to interpret. Nothing to do with the way he plays. He’s become so disliked by some that it’s no longer enough to bag him out for being a poor player. He now cops it for being an imp, an introvert and now a bonehead. I don’t think he’s ever done anything off the field to warrant any of that.


Bonehead.

 

[tony soprano]

Excuses never seem to stop.
If you can’t see the bloke is a bonehead your not looking too closely.

Why the personal attack?

Lol you must have thin skin if you class that as personal? I think he sucks my opinion of course

You don’t spend a decade on this forum if you have thin skin. Bag his game all you like, but what has he done to warrant name calling?

What are you trying to say? Is your interpretation of Cktigers post saying it was personal because you have been here 10 years?? Sounds to me like you are trying to shoot down his opinion and make it something it's not to make yourself feel justified.

First off, my reference to being here 10 years was in response to you, not him. Second, he called him a bonehead, there was nothing to interpret. Nothing to do with the way he plays. He’s become so disliked by some that it’s no longer enough to bag him out for being a poor player. He now cops it for being an imp, an introvert and now a bonehead. I don’t think he’s ever done anything off the field to warrant any of that.

Well said.

 

[Champ]

Excuses never seem to stop.
If you can’t see the bloke is a bonehead your not looking too closely.

Why the personal attack?

Lol you must have thin skin if you class that as personal? I think he sucks my opinion of course

You don’t spend a decade on this forum if you have thin skin. Bag his game all you like, but what has he done to warrant name calling?

What are you trying to say? Is your interpretation of Cktigers post saying it was personal because you have been here 10 years?? Sounds to me like you are trying to shoot down his opinion and make it something it's not to make yourself feel justified.

First off, my reference to being here 10 years was in response to you, not him. Second, he called him a bonehead, there was nothing to interpret. Nothing to do with the way he plays. He’s become so disliked by some that it’s no longer enough to bag him out for being a poor player. He now cops it for being an imp, an introvert and now a bonehead. I don’t think he’s ever done anything off the field to warrant any of that.


Bonehead.

Interesting... Tedesco with "Steggles " on his jersey.I bet Uncle Nick has him in the "frozen chicken" position whenever he wants.

 

[gregjm87]

Luke Brooks 2021- statistical performance among halfbacks
Try Assists - 23 (4th best)
Try Contributions - 13 (4th best)
Runs - 161 (3rd best)
Run meters - 1378 (3rd Best)
Line Breaks - 5 (10th best)
Line Break Assists - 14 (6th Best)
Tackle Breaks - 45 (4th Best)
Effective Offloads - 23 (3rd Best)
Errors - 23 (5th worst but better then DCE, Hunt, Reynolds, Clifford)
Penalties - 14 (worst amongst halves)
**Possessions - 1450 (most possessions of any half in the comp)**
Line Engagements - 354 (most in comp)
General Play Passes - 846 (most in comp)
Line Drop Outs forced - 12 (7th best)
Kick Meters - 6862 (5th best)
Attacking Kicks - 127 (2nd most)
Kicks Dead -3 (12th most)
Kick Errors - 7 (equal 8th)
Try Causes - 16 (3rd worst)
LB Causes - 18 (equal 3rd worst) behind DCE, Dearden and equla with Reynolds
Tackle Effectiveness - 82% (20th worst) better then likes of Cleary, Harris Tevita, Moses,Walker, Townsend, Clifford, Hunt, Johnson

Now I'm not saying Brooks was perfect but given how week the team was around him these indicate that the problem to me isnt Brooks

Mate I think the stat I've highlighted is the most important for several reasons. A lot of Brooks' stats of being either one of the best or one of the worst in the areas recorded are partly because of his large amount of possessions. Cut them back to average and he's more than likely going to come back to the field across the other stats.

But what it shows more than anything is that despite all those possessions and chances to do so, he still can't make good things happen for us enough. Obviously he is supposed to be our play maker and game manager and we pay him accordingly but he just can't pull that off.

And this is the issue. We're paying him to do a job he's not capable of. He's a good footballer etc etc but not the answer. It seems Madge has tried a lot of things to get him to the next level even handing him captaincy but nothing has inspired him to play at his best with any consistency at all.

As a second fiddle half he'd be fine, but would need to take a pay cut of a couple hundred k. In the current climate another club would be willing to roll the dice and pay him the top dog salary. Which is fine but with our current roster we still need him, the hard truth is that he is still better than our other options.

Barra hit the nail on the head. For anyone who missed it , take the time to look at the vid Paws&claws posted. Brooks will do a fantastic job when he can just play footy. Cant run the team , never has & never will. Hastings will do a solid job running the team, take all the pressure off Brooks & Brooks will rediscover the skills he has shown in the past.Instead of the traitor/prostitute Tedesco, it will be Laurie scoring the tries for us. Its gonna happen.

Not unless we find some forwards it won't

 

[Camel2281]

Excuses never seem to stop.
If you can’t see the bloke is a bonehead your not looking too closely.

Why the personal attack?

Lol you must have thin skin if you class that as personal? I think he sucks my opinion of course

You don’t spend a decade on this forum if you have thin skin. Bag his game all you like, but what has he done to warrant name calling?

What are you trying to say? Is your interpretation of Cktigers post saying it was personal because you have been here 10 years?? Sounds to me like you are trying to shoot down his opinion and make it something it's not to make yourself feel justified.

First off, my reference to being here 10 years was in response to you, not him. Second, he called him a bonehead, there was nothing to interpret. Nothing to do with the way he plays. He’s become so disliked by some that it’s no longer enough to bag him out for being a poor player. He now cops it for being an imp, an introvert and now a bonehead. I don’t think he’s ever done anything off the field to warrant any of that.

He seems like a sensible, quiet likeable bloke. He's not a bonehead in the sense of an Adam Elliott. But geez Brooks makes some boneheaded plays on the field. Especially in the opposition red zone. The number of times he's taken wrong options does my head in. Maybe that's what the other poster was referring to?

 

[balmain boy]

Adam Reynolds in 2021 - 9 Forced Drop Outs, Kicked Dead - 8, Kick Errors - 14, Try Assists- 14, Line Breaks -2 , Effective Offloads - 8, Run meters - 616, Line Engaged-265, General Play Passes -467

Luke Brooks 2021- 12 forced drop outs, Kicked Dead - 3 , Kick Errors - 7, Try Assists - 23, Line Breaks - 5, Effective Offloads - 23, Run meters - 1378 (2nd for HBs in comp), Line Engaged -354 (1st for HBs), General Play Passes-846 (1st for HBs)

It's not just what you do, it's when you do it. Scoring points and getting a repeat set when your team is down 30 ultimately counts for very little.

Stats only every tell half the story.

 

[Camel2281]

Luke Brooks 2021- statistical performance among halfbacks
Try Assists - 23 (4th best)
Try Contributions - 13 (4th best)
Runs - 161 (3rd best)
Run meters - 1378 (3rd Best)
Line Breaks - 5 (10th best)
Line Break Assists - 14 (6th Best)
Tackle Breaks - 45 (4th Best)
Effective Offloads - 23 (3rd Best)
Errors - 23 (5th worst but better then DCE, Hunt, Reynolds, Clifford)
Penalties - 14 (worst amongst halves)
**Possessions - 1450 (most possessions of any half in the comp)**
Line Engagements - 354 (most in comp)
General Play Passes - 846 (most in comp)
Line Drop Outs forced - 12 (7th best)
Kick Meters - 6862 (5th best)
Attacking Kicks - 127 (2nd most)
Kicks Dead -3 (12th most)
Kick Errors - 7 (equal 8th)
Try Causes - 16 (3rd worst)
LB Causes - 18 (equal 3rd worst) behind DCE, Dearden and equla with Reynolds
Tackle Effectiveness - 82% (20th worst) better then likes of Cleary, Harris Tevita, Moses,Walker, Townsend, Clifford, Hunt, Johnson

Now I'm not saying Brooks was perfect but given how week the team was around him these indicate that the problem to me isnt Brooks

Mate I think the stat I've highlighted is the most important for several reasons. A lot of Brooks' stats of being either one of the best or one of the worst in the areas recorded are partly because of his large amount of possessions. Cut them back to average and he's more than likely going to come back to the field across the other stats.

But what it shows more than anything is that despite all those possessions and chances to do so, he still can't make good things happen for us enough. Obviously he is supposed to be our play maker and game manager and we pay him accordingly but he just can't pull that off.

And this is the issue. We're paying him to do a job he's not capable of. He's a good footballer etc etc but not the answer. It seems Madge has tried a lot of things to get him to the next level even handing him captaincy but nothing has inspired him to play at his best with any consistency at all.

As a second fiddle half he'd be fine, but would need to take a pay cut of a couple hundred k. In the current climate another club would be willing to roll the dice and pay him the top dog salary. Which is fine but with our current roster we still need him, the hard truth is that he is still better than our other options.

Barra hit the nail on the head. For anyone who missed it , take the time to look at the vid Paws&claws posted. Brooks will do a fantastic job when he can just play footy. Cant run the team , never has & never will. Hastings will do a solid job running the team, take all the pressure off Brooks & Brooks will rediscover the skills he has shown in the past.Instead of the traitor/prostitute Tedesco, it will be Laurie scoring the tries for us. Its gonna happen.

Hopefully Hastings fills that Halfback role then. Because the Number 1 duty of the Halfback is to run the team.

That's why so many people have issues with Brooks'. If he wasn't wanting and trying to be a halfback, and being in the press every preseason telling all and sundry how it's HIS team, and he wasn't on top dollar, I'd wager most on the forum wouldn't be so critical of him

 

[Camel2281]

Zero tackle has an article of the 10 most under pressure players in 2022. Guess who's No. 1 under the most pressure. Luke Brooks. Mentions that AD is our best player by quote 'miles' and Brooks winning that POY award as 'ridiculous'

 

[madunit]

Brooks is okay.

We need better than okay.

He's got a very good running game, which it appears he has been trying to abandon for the past 3 years, his passing and kicking game is solid enough.

But his playmaking is just out of sync. Either he runs a play before engaging the defence, making it easy to shut down, or he picks the wrong play to engage the defence by running first, which ends with him isolating himself and then achieving nothing other than being caught with the ball and absent from the next play.

He's pretty quick, can sniff out an intercept, supports reasonably well. All his positives are good for a five-eighth.

But he's too small under the current format to be a #6 and isn't a powerful enough runner to be a genuine 6.

So we have had to have a genuine 6 who has to do the 7 duties (Benji, Doueihi) or a genuine creator at 9 trying to run the attack as a first receiver as well (Farah).

Can't keep carrying a player like this.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Brooks is okay.

We need better than okay.

He's got a very good running game, which it appears he has been trying to abandon for the past 3 years, his passing and kicking game is solid enough.

But his playmaking is just out of sync. Either he runs a play before engaging the defence, making it easy to shut down, or he picks the wrong play to engage the defence by running first, which ends with him isolating himself and then achieving nothing other than being caught with the ball and absent from the next play.

He's pretty quick, can sniff out an intercept, supports reasonably well. All his positives are good for a five-eighth.

But he's too small under the current format to be a #6 and isn't a powerful enough runner to be a genuine 6.

So we have had to have a genuine 6 who has to do the 7 duties (Benji, Doueihi) or a genuine creator at 9 trying to run the attack as a first receiver as well (Farah).

Can't keep carrying a player like this.

If we want to be better than an okay halfback, the whole club needs to change. When does the penny drop that there is a pool of halfbacks in the comp, all from the bottom half of the ladder that are all at about the same level. No one is yet to name a viable replacement. The closest we get is Hastings, but that isn’t an answer because he is untested and unproven at NRL level. No one can name any halfback that has played morel than 100 NRL games, that would be getable for us, who would do a better job.

 

[Champ]

Luke Brooks 2021- statistical performance among halfbacks
Try Assists - 23 (4th best)
Try Contributions - 13 (4th best)
Runs - 161 (3rd best)
Run meters - 1378 (3rd Best)
Line Breaks - 5 (10th best)
Line Break Assists - 14 (6th Best)
Tackle Breaks - 45 (4th Best)
Effective Offloads - 23 (3rd Best)
Errors - 23 (5th worst but better then DCE, Hunt, Reynolds, Clifford)
Penalties - 14 (worst amongst halves)
**Possessions - 1450 (most possessions of any half in the comp)**
Line Engagements - 354 (most in comp)
General Play Passes - 846 (most in comp)
Line Drop Outs forced - 12 (7th best)
Kick Meters - 6862 (5th best)
Attacking Kicks - 127 (2nd most)
Kicks Dead -3 (12th most)
Kick Errors - 7 (equal 8th)
Try Causes - 16 (3rd worst)
LB Causes - 18 (equal 3rd worst) behind DCE, Dearden and equla with Reynolds
Tackle Effectiveness - 82% (20th worst) better then likes of Cleary, Harris Tevita, Moses,Walker, Townsend, Clifford, Hunt, Johnson

Now I'm not saying Brooks was perfect but given how week the team was around him these indicate that the problem to me isnt Brooks

Mate I think the stat I've highlighted is the most important for several reasons. A lot of Brooks' stats of being either one of the best or one of the worst in the areas recorded are partly because of his large amount of possessions. Cut them back to average and he's more than likely going to come back to the field across the other stats.

But what it shows more than anything is that despite all those possessions and chances to do so, he still can't make good things happen for us enough. Obviously he is supposed to be our play maker and game manager and we pay him accordingly but he just can't pull that off.

And this is the issue. We're paying him to do a job he's not capable of. He's a good footballer etc etc but not the answer. It seems Madge has tried a lot of things to get him to the next level even handing him captaincy but nothing has inspired him to play at his best with any consistency at all.

As a second fiddle half he'd be fine, but would need to take a pay cut of a couple hundred k. In the current climate another club would be willing to roll the dice and pay him the top dog salary. Which is fine but with our current roster we still need him, the hard truth is that he is still better than our other options.

Barra hit the nail on the head. For anyone who missed it , take the time to look at the vid Paws&claws posted. Brooks will do a fantastic job when he can just play footy. Cant run the team , never has & never will. Hastings will do a solid job running the team, take all the pressure off Brooks & Brooks will rediscover the skills he has shown in the past.Instead of the traitor/prostitute Tedesco, it will be Laurie scoring the tries for us. Its gonna happen.

Not unless we find some forwards it won't

True, i believe we are a hard running prop & maybe a 1 second rower short however we have plenty to be optimistic about with Blore, Stefano and Makalie & Sefarth. I believe letting Sam McIntyre go to the Titans was a mistake.

 

[426Tlgerland]

Hastings to play Half and run the team , Brooks to play 5/8 and just run pass and tackle , opposition will then have 2 players to worry about and also Dane chiming in along with AD. That’s a nice bit of attack , Our Pack need to get on top to make this work , we need to get a solid back rower like Papaili from parra to start the game , then bring LL on as a strike player , we also need a good centre , and Scott would be cheap and a better than what we have now addition , he is also a hard head we need a little of that as well

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Hastings to play Half and run the team , Brooks to play 5/8 and just run pass and tackle , opposition will then have 2 players to worry about and also Dane chiming in along with AD. That’s a nice bit of attack , Our Pack need to get on top to make this work , we need to get a solid back rower like Papaili from parra to start the game , then bring LL on as a strike player , we also need a good centre , and Scott would be cheap and a better than what we have now addition , he is also a hard head we need a little of that as well

Opposition have nothing to worry about with that potential spine. Also, Papali’i wouldn’t be on board till 2023, so surely you aren’t advocating for Hastings to be anything more than a stop gap for 2022?

 

[earl]

Opposition have nothing to worry about with that potential spine.

Hastings could be a gun. If he is we look a lot better.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Opposition have nothing to worry about with that potential spine.

Hastings could be a gun. If he is we look a lot better.

Could be, but more than likely won’t be.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Opposition have nothing to worry about with that potential spine.

Hastings could be a gun. If he is we look a lot better.

Think he will be great for us, stoked we signed him.. Him and Ads are real competitor's with voices.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Opposition have nothing to worry about with that potential spine.

Hastings could be a gun. If he is we look a lot better.

Think he will be great for us, stoked we signed him.. Him and Ads are real competitor's with voices.

Reynolds had a voice. How’d that work out?