Luke Garner

[Telltails]

I think you can't dismiss the defensive effort of that win. It wasn't Penriths best but holding any team to 6 points is an impressive result for us especially with the lopsided penalty count and how many raids they had on our line because of it. It was a great team effort and a must win game.

I will pay that, Penriths makeshift halves did have a very off night though.

Tyrone May is very average where ever he plays don't get what Cleary sees in him. They had no cohesion and we rattled them. I thought we handled JFH/Kikau as good as any team has this season and they didn't like it, and the young speedsters Crichton and Staines gave us no trouble. Apart from our own errors that allowed Penrith to stay in it, it was a really dominant performance.

 

[BAGNF05]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

After 10 years in a row mate it becomes old, like jam sandwiches

Well the alternative is to let it get you down and become completely negative. Am I happy we are going to miss the finals again? no, but can I see signs of positivity for the future? yes. Will I let another poor year make me completely negative? no because what is the point in that.

I will take enjoyment from the positives the current team gives us and beating Penrith regardless of the circumstances is something I will enjoy rather than looking for the negatives and be as down and negative as I would be if we lost the game.

If you read some of my other posts like the ones on the sheens thread and the signing of Gildart, you’d see I’m not being completely negative. I love what Doueihi and Twal and Laurie are doing. I’m happy with Brooks form. I’ll give praise where it’s due, just not rating that win verse Penrith B’s.

And that is fine but you have been giving people a bit of a hard time for enjoying a win. We aren't a good team and the Penrith team was still much better than us on paper so there is nothing wrong with enjoying it.

If I gave anyone a hard time I genuinely apologise.

Things like telling people that the reaction to the win is embarrassing etc is a little unfair, it is just people celebrating a win which have been few and far between this season.

Ok poor choice of words on my part, I think I said a ‘tad embarrassing’ I should have just said I think it’s premature to think this side has made any great strides forward. It’s been pointed out we only conceded six points, which I will give credit for, if we back that up this week, I’ll eat my words.

 

[Tiger5150]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

Why?

Did the Tigers ask them not to play?

The Team we played included Edwards, Burton, Crichton, Leinu, JFH, Kikau. On paper the team they threw out looked stronger than us. Bookies had Penrith strong favourites.

We played a strong team and beat them well. End of story.

 

[Tiger5150]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

As someone said yesterday, maybe the Panthers need half an Origin side to beat us?

I’ll join the fan club if we beat Parra

We'll let you know if your application is approved. Its a club for fans and a fan is there thick and thin.

What you are getting confused with is a bandwagon. If you are waiting to see if we win to jump on board, you are a bandwagoner.....different thing.

 

[cochise]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

After 10 years in a row mate it becomes old, like jam sandwiches

Well the alternative is to let it get you down and become completely negative. Am I happy we are going to miss the finals again? no, but can I see signs of positivity for the future? yes. Will I let another poor year make me completely negative? no because what is the point in that.

I will take enjoyment from the positives the current team gives us and beating Penrith regardless of the circumstances is something I will enjoy rather than looking for the negatives and be as down and negative as I would be if we lost the game.

If you read some of my other posts like the ones on the sheens thread and the signing of Gildart, you’d see I’m not being completely negative. I love what Doueihi and Twal and Laurie are doing. I’m happy with Brooks form. I’ll give praise where it’s due, just not rating that win verse Penrith B’s.

And that is fine but you have been giving people a bit of a hard time for enjoying a win. We aren't a good team and the Penrith team was still much better than us on paper so there is nothing wrong with enjoying it.

If I gave anyone a hard time I genuinely apologise.

Things like telling people that the reaction to the win is embarrassing etc is a little unfair, it is just people celebrating a win which have been few and far between this season.

Ok poor choice of words on my part, I think I said a ‘tad embarrassing’ I should have just said I think it’s premature to think this side has made any great strides forward. It’s been pointed out we only conceded six points, which I will give credit for, if we back that up this week, I’ll eat my words.

Mate I agree with that, I don't expect to beat Parra next weekend, but I'm still going to enjoy beating Cleary any time we can.

 

[BAGNF05]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

As someone said yesterday, maybe the Panthers need half an Origin side to beat us?

I’ll join the fan club if we beat Parra


We'll let you know if your application is approved. Its a club for fans and a fan is there thick and thin.

What you are getting confused with is a bandwagon. If you are waiting to see if we win to jump on board, you are a bandwagoner.....different thing.

LOL whatever mate. I watch every game, that’s why I am so negative

 

[BAGNF05]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.


Why?

Did the Tigers ask them not to play?

The Team we played included Edwards, Burton, Crichton, Leinu, JFH, Kikau. On paper the team they threw out looked stronger than us. Bookies had Penrith strong favourites.

We played a strong team and beat them well. End of story.

Let’s just see how we go v Parra

I 100% hope to be eating my words.

 

[Geo]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

 

[mikey]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

The signs are there and so is the talent. Don't expect to progress to far into the finals but would hope we get there.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.


27 in a row?

Each time I've watched Kikau this season, he's been a good player in a good team. I'm kind of thinking he's a bit of a myth. He certainly is imposing, but there's plenty of games that he's far from a stand out. Garner has been very solid for some time now and I'm hoping still on an upward trajectory.

Its funny how you hear mentioned 27 in a row ...they choked in a GF ...and penrith fans (and others ) just choose to ignore it

Does that mean when we make finals again eventually we can ignore the say 11 years in between and say ...we've made finals 3 years running .......

 

[BAGNF05]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

I am hopeful but very doubtful, ask me after the next two weekends and I’ll be more confident which way our season is going.

 

[cochise]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

 

[JC99]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams.

Eels next week should be a cracker game but finals will still be difficult however with how average the comp is this year it's definitely
Possibly if we give it a real go

 

[cochise]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams. Eels next week should be a cracker game

I just hope to see the attitude and commitment from the last couple of weeks.

 

[JC99]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams. Eels next week should be a cracker game

I just hope to see the attitude and commitment from the last couple of weeks.

If we do that we can compete with most teams, especially if our edges keep up their improved defensive structure.

 

[tigerballs]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams.

Eels next week should be a cracker game but finals will still be difficult however with how average the comp is this year it's definitely
Possibly if we give it a real go

The best thing about supporting a struggling team is the excitement generated from such small glimpses of hope. If WT beat the eels next week, the joint will be going off!

 

[cochise]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams. Eels next week should be a cracker game

I just hope to see the attitude and commitment from the last couple of weeks.

If we do that we can compete with most teams, especially if our edges keep up their improved defensive structure.

Which is when I'll start to hope for finals again lol, right now for my mental health I am looking at each game as its own event lol

 

[cochise]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams.

Eels next week should be a cracker game but finals will still be difficult however with how average the comp is this year it's definitely
Possibly if we give it a real go


The best thing about supporting a struggling team is the excitement generated from such small glimpses of hope. If WT beat the eels next week, the joint will be going off!

I win is much more exciting for us than it is for a lot of other teams supporters lol

 

[tigerballs]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams.

Eels next week should be a cracker game but finals will still be difficult however with how average the comp is this year it's definitely
Possibly if we give it a real go


The best thing about supporting a struggling team is the excitement generated from such small glimpses of hope. If WT beat the eels next week, the joint will be going off!

I win is much more exciting for us than it is for a lot of other teams supporters lol

It’s like when you pick up the lead to walk the dog. That moment is the happiest time in your poor dog’s life, they just start going nuts at the thought of going for that walk. Then you take them out for three minutes to take a dump and that’s it! Doesn’t matter, next time they hear the jangle of that lead being picked up, off they go again....

 

[cochise]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau ?

We can compare Garner to Kikau now after last night. I know who I'm preferring.

One hot day don’t make a summer. Panthers won 27 in a row, we’ve won 2.

27 in a row? There wasn’t a GF in amongst them?

Lol it’s unfair to count finals games when comparing with WT

It may be unfair but none the less true. They haven’t won 27 games in a row. They failed miserably in the one game that counted the most.

Maybe true but let’s be real, they’re a lot closer than us at getting back to that dance. I know this is a Tigers forum and I’m a Tigers diehard but some commentary on here after scraping home against their B’s is a tad embarrassing.

Meh, 9 of the 17 players that trotted out for Penrith on Friday night are still regulars in a team that were undefeated until that game, they were used to winning and we stopped them dead in their tracks

The wonder boy Burton was average and I was a bit surprised, Kikau and Leinu were quiet, chrichton who wouldn’t look out of place in the origin team .... we didn’t give him any space and frustrated him all game.
The only Penrith players who made me nervous were JFH and Edwards really.



On our game I thought we still could have played a lot better actually, still so many silly errors but the best thing was we actually defended them

Yes. But half an origin team did not play. Think about that for a while.

For where we are at it’s a brilliant result. Think about that for awhile

A brilliant result for us will be beating someone other than a depleted Knights, Dragons, or Penrith B’s.

a brilliant result is two points against anyone

For a mediocre organisation

Well if you get more doom and gloom supporting them than not I'm sure there could be much better ways to pass your time.....

100% watching us beat a top side with all there players would be a good start

so would winning a grand final, but we are where we are and finding negatives with a positive result for mine seems pointless. just my opinion

Fair enough. I just don’t see how we can take that much out of a win against a side missing two origin halves, an origin winger and three origin forwards. It’s like putting 50 on manly in a trial without DCE and the Turbos. It’s a false dawn. Just being the guy who calls what he sees.

Mate we don't have a side that is going to play finals footy this year, in years like that there becomes a point where you have to take enjoyment from the wins you do get. Nothing wrong with doing that.

Disagree 100%..this squad could make finals this year..if they don't ..it's on them...

After the disappointment of the Warriors game, I reduced my expectations for this year. The last 2 games are a good start to getting me back to believing in the finals but the Warriors game hurt me.

We've beaten 3 teams, knights twice who are average, dragons twice who are average and a depleted Penrith. We've been playing good lately but the real test is beating a few of the higher up teams.

Eels next week should be a cracker game but finals will still be difficult however with how average the comp is this year it's definitely
Possibly if we give it a real go


The best thing about supporting a struggling team is the excitement generated from such small glimpses of hope. If WT beat the eels next week, the joint will be going off!

I win is much more exciting for us than it is for a lot of other teams supporters lol


It’s like when you pick up the lead to walk the dog. That moment is the happiest time in your poor dog’s life, they just start going nuts at the thought of going for that walk. Then you take them out for three minutes to take a dump and that’s it! Doesn’t matter, next time they hear the jangle of that lead being picked up, off they go again....

Lol yep great analogy.