Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

So don't let him make the decision.
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336391) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

So don't let him make the decision.

Works for me. He desperately needs a defence coach and an attack coach
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335981) said:
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335967) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335961) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335924) said:
@jrtiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335861) said:
I've refrained from posting after Sunday, but I can't help it at this point.

How easy would it have been to be a coach this week in terms of motivation. An all-time legend passes away, sold out crowd, massive build up, club does plenty of good things in the lead up (except for Lee to hold the jersey up, he's only chairman for his own self interest), and we produce THAT. We conceded 34 points to a Ron Massey Cup backline.

Now Payten may have out-coached us, but that's not the issue here. If Madge couldn't get them up for that, something's wrong. Very wrong. His new coaching staff was lauded as the backroom changes we needed, but we've gone backwards. Webster heads to Penrith and look how they're travelling, and I've never rated the bloke. Josh Hannay has done plenty for Cronulla's defensive resilience, same goes for Cameron Ciraldo at Penrith, and yet Wayne Collins, and Madge (who everyone has always said is a defence-oriented coach) have done zero for us. We had 6 months of pre-season and weren't able to count numbers at any point last Sunday. Those early shifts by the Cowboys made me sick.

James Roberts unfortunately is a ghost of his former self. The selection of Ofahengaue in the back row was questionable to say the least and to say that his bench rotation has been robotic for the past 3 years is the understatement of the century.

Very torn at the moment. I always wanted Madge to succeed but we need an internal review sooner rather than later before this gets even worse. We finally have our pathways and depth in a good place, with an array of excellent young talent that is on the verge of hitting the top grade, and they're either going to leave or not hit their straps like Brooks unless we work out what's going on in there. If that ends in Madge leaving, I won't be disappointed if it means we have someone that can rally the troops. This has gone on far too long.

I believe Madge is too insecure to have assistant coach like Neil Henry or a John Morris

Payten did him in the strategy dept last Sunday. It looked like it came straight from the Sheens' play book. Having Morris as an assistant would hugely benefit the team and our junior development.

I don't know about that. Possession was around 60/40 our way and even in the diabolical first half we had more ball. Their tries weren't really the result of astute coaching but a combination of lack of effort and Nofa having a shocker. That Drinkwater try was unacceptable no matter who the opposition coach was.

That first try blew us off the park. It was premeditated. Payten well knows Nofoaluma's shortcomings. For us it was bad but for RL, brillant.

I think you’re giving Big Todd a bit too much credit. The Cowboys kid was in a pretty standard position. There was no set move or anything. Nofa just did a terrible job.
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336386) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

I wouldn't want him as a head coach now, but as an assistant to Madge 100% yes.


Depends if Madge gets on with Morris. If they do then fine he would be an asset, if not it would be counter productive.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

Maguire is heading for the old coaches graveyard at a fast rate ...if he was smart he would be all over this but as you say will probably go down with the ship.
 
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Madge reminds me of Les Grossman from Tropic thunder. Lol
 
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336399) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

Maguire is heading for the old coaches graveyard at a fast rate ...if he was smart he would be all over this but as you say will probably go down with the ship.

Smart operators surround themselves with the best people available, I know that Madge had issues with Seibold but you fail without proper support.
 
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Down with the ship.

Too scared to upset the players and add to his already unstable reputation of losing dressing rooms.

Guy is as soft as the players he is supporting.
 
@the_patriot said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336409) said:
![alt text](![8e3c5c55-a975-43e1-9b61-4981de90e6e8-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1618304663956-8e3c5c55-a975-43e1-9b61-4981de90e6e8-image.png) image url)

Down with the ship.

Too scared to upset the players and add to his already unstable reputation of losing dressing rooms.

Guy is as soft as the players he is supporting.


Are you saying the Wests Tigers culture is rubbing off on Madge?
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336405) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336399) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

Maguire is heading for the old coaches graveyard at a fast rate ...if he was smart he would be all over this but as you say will probably go down with the ship.

Smart operators surround themselves with the best people available, I know that Madge had issues with Seibold but you fail without proper support.


Maybe after what happened at South’s we’re Seibold white anted him, Madge doesn’t want any other good coach working with him is case he gets stabbed in the back again.
 
@mike said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336412) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336409) said:
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Down with the ship.

Too scared to upset the players and add to his already unstable reputation of losing dressing rooms.

Guy is as soft as the players he is supporting.


Are you saying the Wests Tigers culture is rubbing off on Madge?


The coach sets the culture. Always has always will.
 
@bathursttiger1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336414) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336405) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336399) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

Maguire is heading for the old coaches graveyard at a fast rate ...if he was smart he would be all over this but as you say will probably go down with the ship.

Smart operators surround themselves with the best people available, I know that Madge had issues with Seibold but you fail without proper support.


Maybe after what happened at South’s we’re Seibold white anted him, Madge doesn’t want any other good coach working with him is case he gets stabbed in the back again.

Yeah I know why, but that is a weak reason.
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336419) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336414) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336405) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336399) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

Maguire is heading for the old coaches graveyard at a fast rate ...if he was smart he would be all over this but as you say will probably go down with the ship.

Smart operators surround themselves with the best people available, I know that Madge had issues with Seibold but you fail without proper support.


Maybe after what happened at South’s we’re Seibold white anted him, Madge doesn’t want any other good coach working with him is case he gets stabbed in the back again.

Yeah I know why, but that is a weak reason.

And it's a very bold assumption with no proof to back it up. End of the day signing better assistants makes his job easier and makes him look better. I'm assuming the club has a big say in it anyway
 
@jc99 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336420) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336419) said:
@bathursttiger1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336414) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336405) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336399) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336388) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336383) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336369) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336366) said:
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336365) said:
@snake said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336357) said:
Morris is exactly what is wanted moving forward ..Young ..professional ..knows the new game and growing with it ..has made the finals the last 2 seasons with a roster similar to the Tigers . Can someone enlighten me the last time the Tigers played in a final ? Don't say Morris is untested he certainly is tested !

The info coming out of the Sharks is he is not straight with the players.

Well he has no job from today punted immediately ..egg shells maybe ! Bit rough IMO

Wow, didn't know they sacked him. I would sign him as an assistant right now.

This is exactly what's required but the old dinosaur would be concerned for his job ...this appointment actually could save his job and a succession plan moving forward for the club .Maguire needs someone that has moved with the new game Morris fits the bill .

No way Madge would bring in anyone half decent to be his assistant.

Maguire is heading for the old coaches graveyard at a fast rate ...if he was smart he would be all over this but as you say will probably go down with the ship.

Smart operators surround themselves with the best people available, I know that Madge had issues with Seibold but you fail without proper support.


Maybe after what happened at South’s we’re Seibold white anted him, Madge doesn’t want any other good coach working with him is case he gets stabbed in the back again.

Yeah I know why, but that is a weak reason.

And it's a very bold assumption with no proof to back it up. End of the day signing better assistants makes his job easier and makes him look better. I'm assuming the club has a big say in it anyway

Exactly mate, the best leaders I have worked with surround themselves with the best people.
 
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336394) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335981) said:
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335967) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335961) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335924) said:
@jrtiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335861) said:
I've refrained from posting after Sunday, but I can't help it at this point.

How easy would it have been to be a coach this week in terms of motivation. An all-time legend passes away, sold out crowd, massive build up, club does plenty of good things in the lead up (except for Lee to hold the jersey up, he's only chairman for his own self interest), and we produce THAT. We conceded 34 points to a Ron Massey Cup backline.

Now Payten may have out-coached us, but that's not the issue here. If Madge couldn't get them up for that, something's wrong. Very wrong. His new coaching staff was lauded as the backroom changes we needed, but we've gone backwards. Webster heads to Penrith and look how they're travelling, and I've never rated the bloke. Josh Hannay has done plenty for Cronulla's defensive resilience, same goes for Cameron Ciraldo at Penrith, and yet Wayne Collins, and Madge (who everyone has always said is a defence-oriented coach) have done zero for us. We had 6 months of pre-season and weren't able to count numbers at any point last Sunday. Those early shifts by the Cowboys made me sick.

James Roberts unfortunately is a ghost of his former self. The selection of Ofahengaue in the back row was questionable to say the least and to say that his bench rotation has been robotic for the past 3 years is the understatement of the century.

Very torn at the moment. I always wanted Madge to succeed but we need an internal review sooner rather than later before this gets even worse. We finally have our pathways and depth in a good place, with an array of excellent young talent that is on the verge of hitting the top grade, and they're either going to leave or not hit their straps like Brooks unless we work out what's going on in there. If that ends in Madge leaving, I won't be disappointed if it means we have someone that can rally the troops. This has gone on far too long.

I believe Madge is too insecure to have assistant coach like Neil Henry or a John Morris

Payten did him in the strategy dept last Sunday. It looked like it came straight from the Sheens' play book. Having Morris as an assistant would hugely benefit the team and our junior development.

I don't know about that. Possession was around 60/40 our way and even in the diabolical first half we had more ball. Their tries weren't really the result of astute coaching but a combination of lack of effort and Nofa having a shocker. That Drinkwater try was unacceptable no matter who the opposition coach was.

That first try blew us off the park. It was premeditated. Payten well knows Nofoaluma's shortcomings. For us it was bad but for RL, brillant.

I think you’re giving Big Todd a bit too much credit. The Cowboys kid was in a pretty standard position. There was no set move or anything. Nofa just did a terrible job.

That try was brilliant. Hated it because it destroyed us in the first half. As a football supporter I loved it. Full credit to Payten he has a lot offer. Pity we couldn't see it.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336429) said:
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336394) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335981) said:
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335967) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335961) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335924) said:
@jrtiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335861) said:
I've refrained from posting after Sunday, but I can't help it at this point.

How easy would it have been to be a coach this week in terms of motivation. An all-time legend passes away, sold out crowd, massive build up, club does plenty of good things in the lead up (except for Lee to hold the jersey up, he's only chairman for his own self interest), and we produce THAT. We conceded 34 points to a Ron Massey Cup backline.

Now Payten may have out-coached us, but that's not the issue here. If Madge couldn't get them up for that, something's wrong. Very wrong. His new coaching staff was lauded as the backroom changes we needed, but we've gone backwards. Webster heads to Penrith and look how they're travelling, and I've never rated the bloke. Josh Hannay has done plenty for Cronulla's defensive resilience, same goes for Cameron Ciraldo at Penrith, and yet Wayne Collins, and Madge (who everyone has always said is a defence-oriented coach) have done zero for us. We had 6 months of pre-season and weren't able to count numbers at any point last Sunday. Those early shifts by the Cowboys made me sick.

James Roberts unfortunately is a ghost of his former self. The selection of Ofahengaue in the back row was questionable to say the least and to say that his bench rotation has been robotic for the past 3 years is the understatement of the century.

Very torn at the moment. I always wanted Madge to succeed but we need an internal review sooner rather than later before this gets even worse. We finally have our pathways and depth in a good place, with an array of excellent young talent that is on the verge of hitting the top grade, and they're either going to leave or not hit their straps like Brooks unless we work out what's going on in there. If that ends in Madge leaving, I won't be disappointed if it means we have someone that can rally the troops. This has gone on far too long.

I believe Madge is too insecure to have assistant coach like Neil Henry or a John Morris

Payten did him in the strategy dept last Sunday. It looked like it came straight from the Sheens' play book. Having Morris as an assistant would hugely benefit the team and our junior development.

I don't know about that. Possession was around 60/40 our way and even in the diabolical first half we had more ball. Their tries weren't really the result of astute coaching but a combination of lack of effort and Nofa having a shocker. That Drinkwater try was unacceptable no matter who the opposition coach was.

That first try blew us off the park. It was premeditated. Payten well knows Nofoaluma's shortcomings. For us it was bad but for RL, brillant.

I think you’re giving Big Todd a bit too much credit. The Cowboys kid was in a pretty standard position. There was no set move or anything. Nofa just did a terrible job.

That try was brilliant. Hated it because it destroyed us in the first half. As a football supporter I loved it. Full credit to Payten he has a lot offer. Pity we couldn't see it.

Maybe if he went about things the right way he would still be here?
 
@cochise said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336433) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336429) said:
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336394) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335981) said:
@yossarian said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335967) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335961) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335924) said:
@jrtiger said in [Sack Madge](/post/1335861) said:
I've refrained from posting after Sunday, but I can't help it at this point.

How easy would it have been to be a coach this week in terms of motivation. An all-time legend passes away, sold out crowd, massive build up, club does plenty of good things in the lead up (except for Lee to hold the jersey up, he's only chairman for his own self interest), and we produce THAT. We conceded 34 points to a Ron Massey Cup backline.

Now Payten may have out-coached us, but that's not the issue here. If Madge couldn't get them up for that, something's wrong. Very wrong. His new coaching staff was lauded as the backroom changes we needed, but we've gone backwards. Webster heads to Penrith and look how they're travelling, and I've never rated the bloke. Josh Hannay has done plenty for Cronulla's defensive resilience, same goes for Cameron Ciraldo at Penrith, and yet Wayne Collins, and Madge (who everyone has always said is a defence-oriented coach) have done zero for us. We had 6 months of pre-season and weren't able to count numbers at any point last Sunday. Those early shifts by the Cowboys made me sick.

James Roberts unfortunately is a ghost of his former self. The selection of Ofahengaue in the back row was questionable to say the least and to say that his bench rotation has been robotic for the past 3 years is the understatement of the century.

Very torn at the moment. I always wanted Madge to succeed but we need an internal review sooner rather than later before this gets even worse. We finally have our pathways and depth in a good place, with an array of excellent young talent that is on the verge of hitting the top grade, and they're either going to leave or not hit their straps like Brooks unless we work out what's going on in there. If that ends in Madge leaving, I won't be disappointed if it means we have someone that can rally the troops. This has gone on far too long.

I believe Madge is too insecure to have assistant coach like Neil Henry or a John Morris

Payten did him in the strategy dept last Sunday. It looked like it came straight from the Sheens' play book. Having Morris as an assistant would hugely benefit the team and our junior development.

I don't know about that. Possession was around 60/40 our way and even in the diabolical first half we had more ball. Their tries weren't really the result of astute coaching but a combination of lack of effort and Nofa having a shocker. That Drinkwater try was unacceptable no matter who the opposition coach was.

That first try blew us off the park. It was premeditated. Payten well knows Nofoaluma's shortcomings. For us it was bad but for RL, brillant.

I think you’re giving Big Todd a bit too much credit. The Cowboys kid was in a pretty standard position. There was no set move or anything. Nofa just did a terrible job.

That try was brilliant. Hated it because it destroyed us in the first half. As a football supporter I loved it. Full credit to Payten he has a lot offer. Pity we couldn't see it.

Maybe if he went about things the right way he would still be here?

There's been a lot thrown at him. He's resilient man and a Sheens' protege. That is outstanding. Time to Sheens it up at WT.
 
We are definitely improving as a Fanbase..it took roughly 7 years to turn on Sheensy down to 18 months for Madge..

The next bloke will be sacked before he starts..
 
@geo said in [Sack Madge](/post/1336583) said:
We are definitely improving as a Fanbase..it took roughly 7 years to turn on Sheensy down to 18 months for Madge..

The next bloke will be sacked before he starts..

Now people want Sheens back.
 
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