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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471189) said:
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Hooper saying madge gone. He reckons will be a madge junior coach combo

Sheens? or are we sacking and then re-hiring Madge?

Edit: sheens junior coach combo.

I think that is our best way forward

Me too, especially if it is Ciraldo
 
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471309) said:
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@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
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@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.
 
@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471312) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471189) said:
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Hooper saying madge gone. He reckons will be a madge junior coach combo

Sheens? or are we sacking and then re-hiring Madge?

Edit: sheens junior coach combo.

I think that is our best way forward

Me too, especially if it is Ciraldo

That is my preferred option.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471182) said:
Hooper saying madge gone. He reckons will be a sheens junior coach combo

Reading the play thinks it's big bad Benny feeding Hooper info.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471318) said:
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@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?
 
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471296) said:
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@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

I don't how you can argue the club knew what they were doing. Potter didn't actually have a say in anything under Grant Mayer. Then Jason Taylor happened, them Ivan now madge. Enough said.

That’s why I said it was a mistake

Absolutely.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471318) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471280) said:
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@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
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@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471210) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471209) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471186) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471171) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471164) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

And he was aligned with Humphries and the backended contract disasters
 
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471325) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471291) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471284) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471280) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471268) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471266) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471261) said:
@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471214) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471210) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471209) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471186) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471171) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471164) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

Or the roosters.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471313) said:
When somebody today sent a text message to ABC Sport about Maguire deserving to be sacked, Mr Opportunist and Mr Each-way bet, Andrew Moore, said something like " the issues at that joint run deeper than the coach". I sent a text message to his program and asked him to be more specific and tell us what the deeper issues at WT are. To my knowledge, he didn't respond.

This is what happens when a, supposedly, professional organisation like WT grant access for a "doco" that, by it's own publicity, exposes the "truth". It becomes the "truth" by the ignroance, bias and filter of every person who watches it.

Whoever approved it is a cancer on the culture and standing of WT as a professional sporting entity.

Andrew Moore lol
 
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471325) said:
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@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471266) said:
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@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
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@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
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@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
 
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471299) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471295) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471291) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471284) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471280) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471268) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471266) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471261) said:
@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471214) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471210) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471209) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471186) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471171) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471164) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

And he was aligned with Humphries and the backended contract disasters

The salary cap was a mess when he left, it is the reason Potter had such little power.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471332) said:
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@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471309) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471299) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471295) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471291) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471284) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471280) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471268) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471266) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471261) said:
@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471214) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471210) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471209) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471186) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471171) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471164) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th
 
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471334) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471318) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471309) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471299) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471295) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471291) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471284) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471280) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471268) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471266) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471261) said:
@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471214) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471210) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471209) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471186) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471171) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471164) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

The only positive for this decade drought is not one wooden spoon.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471319) said:
@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471312) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471189) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471188) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471184) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471182) said:
Hooper saying madge gone. He reckons will be a madge junior coach combo

Sheens? or are we sacking and then re-hiring Madge?

Edit: sheens junior coach combo.

I think that is our best way forward

Me too, especially if it is Ciraldo

That is my preferred option.

You would have to think Ciraldo would be interested .. he has done everything he can at Penrith .
At some stage he will have to step out of the comfort zone
 
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@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471309) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471291) said:
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@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471280) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471268) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471266) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471261) said:
@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471251) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471214) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471210) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471209) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471203) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471186) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471171) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471164) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471161) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471157) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

The only positive for this decade drought is not one wooden spoon.

Is that a positive? Despite manly coming 15th a couple times in the past, other than the Bronocs last year each team that has won 1 since 2011 has made the finals.
 
My head is spinning from the constant discussion about the coach for 2022. My opinion I think is obvious - we need a new coach. However, regardless of who is coach, I think the following needs to happen:
1. Players who are not on board with the coach be given the chance to negotiate with other clubs from November 1st. They would be players I would not look at for first grade in 2022.
2. The new coach must be prepared to work with Tim Sheens - including being able to take advice from him.
3. Tim Sheens needs to work some magic and start showing outside players that this is a club taking control and on a good path for the future.
 
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@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471312) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471189) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471188) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471184) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471182) said:
Hooper saying madge gone. He reckons will be a madge junior coach combo

Sheens? or are we sacking and then re-hiring Madge?

Edit: sheens junior coach combo.

I think that is our best way forward

Me too, especially if it is Ciraldo

That is my preferred option.

You would have to think Ciraldo would be interested .. he has done everything he can at Penrith .
At some stage he will have to step out of the comfort zone

I would put in his contract a handover date where he becomes head coach.
 
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@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471192) said:
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@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

The only positive for this decade drought is not one wooden spoon.

Is that a positive? Despite manly coming 15th a couple times in the past, other than the Bronocs last year each team that has won 1 since 2011 has made the finals.
Yeah did you want them to get the wooden spoon?
 
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@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471148) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471140) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

@tiger5150 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471137) said:
@stevo133 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1471136) said:
6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

Tim Sheens coached for 9 years at the Wests Tigers, we made the finals 3 times. The only 3 times we have ever made the finals and I am a huge Sheens defender, but the club needed a new direction and a new voice at the end of 2012.
 
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