Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[Snake]

The board and club have a fail safe .. Tim Sheens moves straight in if there are problems next season !

Tim Sheens would have zero hope of being able to coach a current NRL side.
People seem to forget his record after leaving here … as well as his last year at the Tigers.

And Maguire has after three seasons of failure and a group of players with there actions want nothing to do with him !

Piss the players off then. Not trying is an insult to you and I, as well as Madge.

The Tigers are the home of Mediocrity no one will be shown the door !

 

[TigerJunior4]

I’ve just read the SMH report and what struck me as weird was the concern from the board that there needed to be greater connection between the club and the football department.

From the chairs and CEO’s previous communication, it seems the separation between the football department and club was intentional given Pascoe and the board has no football intelligence. I remember at the start of this review the chair laying the blame on the football department and going to painstaking lengths to praise the financial performance of the front office. It’s hypocritical bs that the board have laid the blame at Madge’s feet for the org structure and delineation of duties and responsibilities and that’s coming from someone who wanted Madge gone.

This is just one example of mixed messaging and diabolical communication from the club. I remember when Taylor got sacked, the club refused to acknowledge he was the wrong choice (clearly he was), the Pangai Jnr situation was embarrassing and unprofessional and yesterday’s cancelled board meeting was just a train wreck from start to finish. Communication may seem like a minor detail but poor communication creates uncertainty and an unstable working environment. It makes us seem outwardly unprofessional and chaotic, and degrades our integrity. Also it points to deeper issues of a lack of strategic direction both on and off the field.

Sorry for the long-winded rant guys I’ve just never been more disappointed and ashamed of the club.

Got to remember mate the SMH also values so called NRL reporters like Buzz who by his own admission wrote an article saying Maguire was sacked. He has to carry a roll of toilet paper around with him to wipe up the mess after he talks. Dont believe every thing you read.

I definitely don’t believe everything I read and I know that league reporters often have their own agenda. I’m not a fan of reporters like Buzz or Chammas even Crawley who never says a bad word about Bennett. I think in this instance, I see this as consistent behaviour displayed by the board/club over the past few years with mixed messaging and what I feel is the shifting of blame and responsibility.

 

[BAGNF05]

Disappointed and disillusioned. It appears that we do not have clear thinking at any level of the club. The Board should never have extended Maguire’s contract for two years given his record at the time. The Board dug a hole for itself when it extended him. Now understandably the Board does not want to pay out the reported $700k to cancel his contract with no other coach signed and to admit its huge error in having extended his contract.
I presume we will get the spoon next year, or close to it. I have no faith in Maguire, or this Board to turn things around.
Hopefully someone will take hold of this club and steer it in the right direction. I think that might be years away though given the mediocrity we currently have at all levels at the club.
I say go the Tigers but it is getting harder.

Cheer up. We have two premiership winning coaches in the football Department and have nearly got the worst big 4 in history off our books for good finally! A couple of recruitment wins and re-sign some promising youngsters and we will challenge for 8th.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Since this is the thread for all things relevant to change I found reading these two articles back to back from 1 year apart interesting.
Quotes from Garry Jack in both.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/wests-tigers-should-be-sydneys-nrl-giants-but-theyre-lightweights-because-of-this-flawed-strategy/news-story/08444b481dbd01e8e53c4be36f4420d5

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-michael-maguire-wests-tigers-review-coach-board-meeting-justin-pascoe-reaction-latest-news-updates/news-story/be69adca51d9a291e56a68c3e691bdd6

Yes could not agree more with Gary Jack.
Personally it was a 50/50 call, i was at the final game this season and we have no leaders in the team nor a game plan.
I put that down to Madge and his selection policy in maintaining non performing players???

If the club has back him i have too, i do know on a plus side he cares about the club and wants to see it prosper and he does does work tirelessly at this task.

So attention should focus on Pascoe now as he signs off on players contracts and think he should go as someone needs to be held accountable for 2021 if not Madge.

 

[BAGNF05]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

 

[BAGNF05]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

Whatever mate, half the marquee money was paid to major duds that hardly took the field. The young guys he did attract played well.

 

[frullens]

I can live with that.

They need to get the assistants right and they need to start shopping Luke Brooks immediately.

We are actually really short in the halves already

Agreed. Unless the club can be guaranteed a better option at 7 in return Brooks highly unlikely to get moved on now, especially with AD our for a bit.

Hastings?

And 5/8th?

Initially
I'd have Hastings at 7 - make him co captain and drive the team around
Move brooks to 6 - take pressure off him, tell just to run, back up and play what he sees.

When AD returns, if the Hastings/Brooks combo isnt working, AD goes to 6 and Brooks to 14

If it the hastings/Brooks combo is working and we are wining, play AD either in centres or lock

 

[yeahcaz]

Disappointed and disillusioned. It appears that we do not have clear thinking at any level of the club. The Board should never have extended Maguire’s contract for two years given his record at the time. The Board dug a hole for itself when it extended him. Now understandably the Board does not want to pay out the reported $700k to cancel his contract with no other coach signed and to admit its huge error in having extended his contract.
I presume we will get the spoon next year, or close to it. I have no faith in Maguire, or this Board to turn things around.
Hopefully someone will take hold of this club and steer it in the right direction. I think that might be years away though given the mediocrity we currently have at all levels at the club.
I say go the Tigers but it is getting harder.

Cheer up. We have two premiership winning coaches in the football Department and have nearly got the worst big 4 in history off our books for good finally! A couple of recruitment wins and re-sign some promising youngsters and we will challenge for 8th.

Our next big 4 are all off contract at the same time. If none of them are re signed early, we’re in for the exact same situation as before.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

Whatever mate, half the marquee money was paid to major duds that hardly took the field. The young guys he did attract played well.

What’s been done with that money now it’s freed up?

 

[tony soprano]

Lee just said board don't even get paid for their position.

 

[BAGNF05]

Disappointed and disillusioned. It appears that we do not have clear thinking at any level of the club. The Board should never have extended Maguire’s contract for two years given his record at the time. The Board dug a hole for itself when it extended him. Now understandably the Board does not want to pay out the reported $700k to cancel his contract with no other coach signed and to admit its huge error in having extended his contract.
I presume we will get the spoon next year, or close to it. I have no faith in Maguire, or this Board to turn things around.
Hopefully someone will take hold of this club and steer it in the right direction. I think that might be years away though given the mediocrity we currently have at all levels at the club.
I say go the Tigers but it is getting harder.

Cheer up. We have two premiership winning coaches in the football Department and have nearly got the worst big 4 in history off our books for good finally! A couple of recruitment wins and re-sign some promising youngsters and we will challenge for 8th.

Our next big 4 are all off contract at the same time. If none of them are re signed early, we’re in for the exact same situation as before.

If we don’t re-sign Stef heads must roll

 

[hobbo1]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

Whatever mate, half the marquee money was paid to major duds that hardly took the field. The young guys he did attract played well.

What’s been done with that money now it’s freed up?

Why so angry ?

 

[Geo]

Lee just said board don't even get paid for their position.

Unless you count the canapés on game days

 

[yeahcaz]

Disappointed and disillusioned. It appears that we do not have clear thinking at any level of the club. The Board should never have extended Maguire’s contract for two years given his record at the time. The Board dug a hole for itself when it extended him. Now understandably the Board does not want to pay out the reported $700k to cancel his contract with no other coach signed and to admit its huge error in having extended his contract.
I presume we will get the spoon next year, or close to it. I have no faith in Maguire, or this Board to turn things around.
Hopefully someone will take hold of this club and steer it in the right direction. I think that might be years away though given the mediocrity we currently have at all levels at the club.
I say go the Tigers but it is getting harder.

Cheer up. We have two premiership winning coaches in the football Department and have nearly got the worst big 4 in history off our books for good finally! A couple of recruitment wins and re-sign some promising youngsters and we will challenge for 8th.

Our next big 4 are all off contract at the same time. If none of them are re signed early, we’re in for the exact same situation as before.

If we don’t re-sign Stef heads must roll

lol why would he stay. Imagine he goes back to origin camp this year, every single person there will say what are you doing to yourself and he’ll be sold recruitment by every person there. Seriously our best chance is to just offer him stupid money on a 2 year extension

 

[BAGNF05]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

Whatever mate, half the marquee money was paid to major duds that hardly took the field. The young guys he did attract played well.

What’s been done with that money now it’s freed up?

I have massive issues with that as we had four years to plan for it. We do have a whole recruitment team to blame for that, which I understand Madge plays a role in. My hope is that we will attract a couple of contracted guys who are undervalued elsewhere.

 

[tiger_one]

>posted yesterday

Link?

No idea where I read it or whrebin here it is.... F
@tiger_one

Hi - this is the article about Pathways development from yesterday (if that's the link you are referring to:

Wests Tigers seeking interest for junior pathways performance roles

Author
Wests Tigers
Timestamp
Fri 17 Sep 2021, 02:26 PM

Wests Tigers are currently seeking expressions of interest for several junior representative pathways performance roles with Balmain Tigers and Western Suburbs Magpies in the 2022 season.

Following on from the strength of the club’s pathways program in 2021, the club is determined to continue its recent growth in its junior representative teams by adding talented and qualified staff in the areas of rehabilitation and physiotherapy, strength and conditioning, sports science and nutrition.

Wests Tigers pathways programs will be boosted by the new Macarthur Conference Competition in 2022, which will see Wests Tigers Macarthur Junior Rugby League, Group 6 Junior Rugby League and Group 6 Senior Rugby League, all play in combined competitions from U/13’s to first-grade next year — further building the foundation for future growth in the area and pathways through to Wests Tigers.

Despite having consecutive seasons affected by COVID, Wests Tigers Macarthur and Group 6 competitions enjoyed a healthy rise in participants throughout the year by almost ten percent, with the biggest improvement in the 13 to 15-year-old range.

As the 2022 season approaches, the club’s annual Brydens Lawyers Wests Tigers Academy continues to operate virtually with a digital execution of the weekly programs for the club’s elite juniors. The elite group of U/17’s and U/19’s players from Balmain, Wests and Group 6 regions started the annual academy at the beginning of June prior to lockdown restrictions before adjusting the program to virtual platforms throughout August and September. A select number of those players will then transition into the 2022 pre-season in November with Wests Tigers as well as their respective junior representative commitments.

For more information about the club’s pathways programs or the junior pathways performance roles available, email pathways@weststigers.com.au.

 

[Snake]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

Exactly the roster that we all seen giving there all for the coach !

 

[BAGNF05]

Robbo congratulated Madge, calling him a fine coach on NRL360. Respected figure in the game. Now let him whip this roster into shape.

The roster he put together?

Exactly the roster that we all seen giving there all for the coach !

Russell Packer
Josh Reynolds
Moses Mbye
Ben Matulino

Tigers greats not signed by Madge. Between them they could buy an island in the South Pacific with Pascoe’s contract money.

 

[hugh1954]

The club needed to come out a make a decision, now let’s support Madge. Anything about his assistants?

Yeah decision made, some agree, some don't, no changing it now. Hopefully the club lines up fully behind him now to get the job done.

You made your points and well made , good to see you move along now with the club