Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[Geo]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Like Remis Smith, Brenko Lee George Jennings and never mind

 

[hobbo1]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Like Remis Smith, Brenko Lee George Jennings and never mind

Can we sign never mind ?

Are you turning on Madge ?

?

 

[Geo]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Like Remis Smith, Brenko Lee George Jennings and never mind

Can we sign never mind ?

Are you turning on Madge ?

?

No Nick Meaney but had a blank so never mind

 

[2005magic]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

Madge can plainly see what he’s doing isn’t working. Why can’t he adapt?

That’s what that shoddy defensive structure was , an adaptation , that didn’t work .

For me , the issues in the team lie with 3 players . Mbye, Tamou , and Luciano. Luciano needs to be taken off the edge for his own sake . There’s no reason why we can’t play him at 13 , and have him run wider at times .

With this move , Mbye can find some confidence , or not . His voice appears lost i. The wilderness , and his defence is all at sea .
Tamou , just had fallen off a cliff . Seems like a great bloke , but the hit and drop to your knees style , just isn’t working in this current touch football game .
The guys having the most affect are guys who are running through the line and looking for offloads.
The rule changes have killed Tamou like players . Even Twal . Because he can’t pass , it basically means the defence can jam and compress when he runs it , basically killing any momentum.

Twal you can fix , as he’s still early 20s , Tamou , I dunno , it might be too late .

I know Tamou might bring something off the field but on field he's adding nothing. 27 minutes on the field yesterday, 3 runs for 15 metres. Game before vs Melbourne, 34 minutes, 3 runs for 26 metres.

Twal got manhandled yesterday.

Ppl harp on about how cheap he is but in the end it's a waste. Better to give the extra coin to attract someone here than have 2 plodders on the same.

He was a poor signing imo. And he'll be even worse next season.

Agree. Absolute waste

Yet at the beginning of the season Hartigan and co were applauded for his signing ....He played in GFs ,he captained a team of great players ,he is such a good person, his experience will help the younger ones...etc etc...
Maybe he is finding it difficult to adapt to our system,the poor one that Madge is trying to overhaul and change the poor culture that has been festering here for years...
Yes he may have been a poor signing in some peoples opinion,however unless your at training and spending a lot of time with the team,then you really dont know what input he has other than what he is doing on the field that you are viewing on tv or at the ground...

Yeah bro I see your point but at the end of the day, he's still plodding on. Whether he was signed to lead or not, good leaders lead by example. He is not

I think the issue is the amount of time he is actually on the field in a game. Not good, not sustainable.

 

[Telltails]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Like Remis Smith, Brenko Lee George Jennings and never mind

Didnt have to sign any of them. They want to go there and he decides if they are the right fit.
We all know how he operates. He has never been in a position where he doesn't have quality players in key positions that are also the highest paid players that lead on the field.

 

[jirskyr]

Watched Madges Presser x2

I like his words and commitment to our club.

But in truth, he doesnt have much choice in terms of ready replacements.

Remember this is 15 years of crud. Madge will change this culture, hang on Tigers fans.

I to actually liked some of what he had to say today, 1st time I have seen him actually talk about problems. The parts I didn't like were the excuses he made for those problems

Maguire talks the talk ..he is trying to save his job and will say anything to do so .
He has lost his players everyone can see this with there demeanour on the park ,he has had plenty of opportunity to drop players but refuses. There are players in reserve grade that would take the opportunity.
Maguire has lost the locker room and as each week passes so does he lose the supporter base !

Here's the million-dollar question. Let's assume Maguire has indeed lost some of the players. Are these the players we care to keep, care to placate?

I reckon you could line up all the players who don't rate Madge, however many there might be, and they would end up being the most heartless, gutless, least capable players still hanging on to their contract.

New players like Laurie, Ofa, Blore, Stefano, Douiehi - all had a red-hot dig, all Madge-era recruits. Luch Leilua is a tough one, he's still a real X-Factor in attack and consistently a threat against good teams, but his defence is arguably getting worse and he has very little ability to adjust once he has set his feet.

Jimmy Jet was pretty aggressive yesterday, I don't think he had a bad game, the defensive mistakes on the RHS were made inside him.

Don't think there's any defence for Mbye - I think he should probably sit out the rest of the season. The 5/8th experiment was interesting, and temporarily worked, but his defensive ability there is horrendous. I don't get it, because he is often a quite capable defender at centre. Any which way he needs to go, which leaves either Madden or Doueihi to halves. I think you go Doueihi, short-term, get him touching the ball as much as possible before Hastings comes in.

Talau probably comes back in at centre, if not, give a young bloke a go. Maybe even Nofo is a left-field consideration for centre, if you can get him running straight rather than sideways; I have no idea how his defensive reads might work out. Or Maumolo... point is to get a new guy in on the wing and experienced, perhaps Cooper or give Cini another run, or Fitzgibbon...or go totally left-field and put a junior hot-shot in. Point being season is done, can't lose with experimentation.

Main issue Madge has however is he can't drop 6 players, they'll be just as flogged the next time around. He has to make small adjustments.

 

[Telltails]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Not so true he has recruited players that seem to be fairly average at other clubs who then improve under him and there systems. Maguire has brought in players to supposedly suit he’s coaching style and yet no improvement in individual performance or team performance. I whould like to see us improving to give some hope I’m just not seeing it

He has the best players in key positions that make average players play better. We were a better side with Harry Grant and we would be even better with Smith /Munster the Bronwiches Hughes etc. He is undoubtedly a good coach but even he knew this was a tough gig - it was his if he wanted it. Maguire spent 5 years as his assistant so there must be some level of Bellamys influence.

 

[jirskyr]

Looks like the "playing kids" experiment is over?
In these last 3 games, the opposition looked so much bigger than our blokes imo?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/i-need-to-find-men-michael-maguire-flags-roster-overhaul-as-tigers-lashed-over-garbage-loss/news-story/3f1459ef2db3bfd091620a135ed296a1

**‘I need to find men’: Michael Maguire flags roster overhaul as Tigers lashed over ‘garbage’ loss​**

A frustrated Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire has lashed his team’s “garbage” performance as they sunk to a new low at their spiritual home.

The Tigers treated defence like it was optional as the Rabbitohs piled on seven tries in a 38-22 training run.

It came off the back of Maguire’s men conceding an embarrassing 66 points in their previous outing against the Storm.

It was a good thing there were no fans at the ground because the players would have been booed off at Leichhardt Oval for the second time this season.

A month to the day after they stunned the Panthers, Michael Maguire’s side folded as the Origin-in-waiting halves of Cody Walker and Adam Reynolds picked them apart with consummate ease.

Speaking after the match Maguire said they needed to fix their diabolic starts to games.

“For three weeks, our starts have been ordinary. We have to be accountable for that,” he said.

“It’s sad to say that our start looked like a training run for Souths. It’s very disappointing to see us start like that.

“I need to find men who are going to be accountable for what we’re doing. That’s not acceptable for where we’re going with the club.

“Our first half was garbage.”

Maguire, who said there was no repeat of the silent treatment he gave his side at halftime during the Storm hammering, said he would use the rest of the season to work out which players had a future at the Tigers.

“I’ll be definitely having a look at the team,” Maguire said.

“They’ve got a week now where they can go away from footy for a while.

“I want to find the ones that are ready to take Wests Tigers forward.”

“We’re very focused on where we want to get to. Seeing a performance like that is disappointing because the effort around the organisation is a strong club.

Maguire has challenged his players' manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable and he should be asked to attend the CEO's office this morning. No wonder we're viewed in less than positive light.

He doesn't need to challenge their manhood, it's on display for all to see. I agree it's a cheap tactic, but I would guess gameplans, training and ultimately pleading with some players isn't getting the result.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Also is there any reason we can’t swap brooks to the right defensively ? I don’t understand why we have our best backline defender , defending on the safer edge .

If the edge is all at sea , we should stack it as best we can , sure it means a swap on attack and vise versa , but it’s worth a shot isn’t it ? He covers up so many other players bad defensive reads .

In saying that though , the issues start in the middle . The Reynolds try where Luciano was not coming across and Mbye turned out , is basically what guys like @geo have been saying .
We arnt winning the middle so the edges are compressing , causing huge overlaps on the edges .

Not only that..the retreating defensive pattern and domination of the middle third means teams roll through 3 hit ups then throw the ball wide the edges are back peddling and in dissarray there are gaps wider than the grand canyon that teams stroll through....

I'm sure no doubt Wests Tigers offence put 60 on Wests Tigers defence at training..with the massive hole in da fence...brick wall fences are all the rage whilst we use pickets..

Yea . Who thought that was a good idea ? Especially with someone like Lattrell running at you . I’m sure we were all taught to move up and remove the time and space from the big ,athletic star on the other team.

It seems like the coaching staff is out of ideas . Which is not good at all ! I’m still pro Madge , but that game plan / structure really lends itself to the idea that he has no answers .

It’s hard to watch . That’s for sure

 

[jirskyr]

You could see before the game when he was already lecturing them that they’d clocked off.

Maybe he was lecturing them *because* they had already clocked off.

The amazing observation was the he seemed oblivious to his players' reaction to his rant. Tamou appeared to be irritated by him.

If you are getting paid 5 times the average wage to run 20 metres - and with the additional honour of captaining the club - you don't have the right to be 'irritated' by a premiership winning coach telling you to fire up.

Isn't that the issue, ranting rather than speaking with the players? There are far more effective means of delivery. I know others may not like this but look how Cleary delivers his pre-game and half time chats. He is sat down, almost laid back.

There is a picture of Brooks after the debacle on the Sunshine Coast in the dressing shed with Maguire in a rant. Brooks has his arms folded against his chest?

Uh oh we aren't doing body language analysis again are we?

 

[yeahcaz]

Thing that kills me the most is looking at the points differential on the ladder. Out of the bottom 8 we’ve scored the second most amount of points, we’ve also outscored the sharks who are in the top 8 and have only scored 10 less than the dragons. The bulldogs just lost 66-0 and they’re still better defensively than we are. How do you solve this defence

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Us as supporters are tired of hearing excuses from the club…week after week…year after year…playing well and performing comes down to attitude and heart…right now it’s very poor and there’s no heart…and while there are a couple of players that are trying their hardest…the rest of them are passengers and all going through the motions….and while we won the second half…which was better…the game was pretty much over at halftime.. it’s obvious what Madge is saying to the team isn’t translating on the field…and it’s not the coach dropping the ball….the problems start at the top… then work your way down… Totally embarrassing

 

[jirskyr]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

Madge can plainly see what he’s doing isn’t working. Why can’t he adapt?

I guess the same reason Adam O Brien couldn't get the best out of his team till his two best players returned from injury and bam - different team.
The same as Des Hasler - four losses in a row - Turbo returns different team
Katoni Staggs return to Broncos yesterday instant improvement.
Trent Robinson gets a few injuries and a weakened side - rookie half - slaughtered by Melbourne.
We have no leaders / quality in our team who can lift the squad but we have a heap that drop their bundle - at a club with a history to sack/ move on coaches and hope that resolves it.
Their first half attitude was inexcusable- whether they are a fan of the coach or not they are paid by the club -well - to do a job.
Maguire may not survive but their are massive deficiencies in that team no matter who coached them.

I keep saying... only a Turbo away.

Also, I wouldn't count Newcastle's chickens yet, Cowboys were hopeless.

 

[happy_tiger]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Like Remis Smith, Brenko Lee George Jennings and never mind

Can we sign never mind ?

Are you turning on Madge ?

?

At least you could have said Kenny Bromwich ,Jesse Bromwich , Kaufusi , Finucane , Harry or Hectic and NAS ....

 

[jirskyr]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

Madge can plainly see what he’s doing isn’t working. Why can’t he adapt?

That’s what that shoddy defensive structure was , an adaptation , that didn’t work .

For me , the issues in the team lie with 3 players . Mbye, Tamou , and Luciano. Luciano needs to be taken off the edge for his own sake . There’s no reason why we can’t play him at 13 , and have him run wider at times .

With this move , Mbye can find some confidence , or not . His voice appears lost i. The wilderness , and his defence is all at sea .
Tamou , just had fallen off a cliff . Seems like a great bloke , but the hit and drop to your knees style , just isn’t working in this current touch football game .
The guys having the most affect are guys who are running through the line and looking for offloads.
The rule changes have killed Tamou like players . Even Twal . Because he can’t pass , it basically means the defence can jam and compress when he runs it , basically killing any momentum.

Twal you can fix , as he’s still early 20s , Tamou , I dunno , it might be too late .

I know Tamou might bring something off the field but on field he's adding nothing. 27 minutes on the field yesterday, 3 runs for 15 metres. Game before vs Melbourne, 34 minutes, 3 runs for 26 metres.

Twal got manhandled yesterday.

I'm not excusing yesterday ...but we had the ball for 8 tackles in the 1st 21 minutes v Melbourne

The forwards would have been absolutely stuffed from defending v Melbourne

Not like you to stick up for the team bro.
The place is a shambles Hap.
Massive changes needed and that's not an overreaction

No ...not sticking up for the side at all ...from memory it was like 80 odd tackles to 8 after 20 minutes .....our side is crap in a 50/50 situation ......the forwards would have been screaming for a breather ...any side in the NRL's forwards would have been screaming to get even a minutes break

That's where you sign guys that can take the heat off their forwards e.g. lockyer, cronk.
Or someone that can turn the game around, kick it into touch, give the pigs a rest. Even waste a challenge to get a break. We are seriously lacking in football smarts. Glad we signed such a great on field leader?

Cool - just sign Lockyer or Cronk, FIXED.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Thing that kills me the most is looking at the points differential on the ladder. Out of the bottom 8 we’ve scored the second most amount of points, we’ve also outscored the sharks who are in the top 8 and have only scored 10 less than the dragons. The bulldogs just lost 66-0 and they’re still better defensively than we are. How do you solve this defence

Who's defence coach & what's he doing?

 

[Guest]

Thing that kills me the most is looking at the points differential on the ladder. Out of the bottom 8 we’ve scored the second most amount of points, we’ve also outscored the sharks who are in the top 8 and have only scored 10 less than the dragons. The bulldogs just lost 66-0 and they’re still better defensively than we are. How do you solve this defence


Who's defence coach & what's he doing?

Defence coach is Madge. He handles it himself.

 

[tiger05premier]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

Madge doesn't have many options

No one wants to come here

But he still has to have 30 players

No other coach has succeeded in bringing stars here either

 

[tiger05premier]

Maguire has challenged his players’ manhood publicly (or even privately)and that is the end for him. Football aside, that is unacceptable

They have few testicles between them, it is a statement of fact.

It is counterproductive to team building, cohesion and performance. And importantly, how do you believe other players outside the club will view WTs as a destination? Are we that naive to think word does not get around?

So we should be announcing in a press conference that players like Mbye actually had a great game, in the hopes that Brandon Smith might then decide he wants to come here?

Good players do not want to play with our squad.

To be fair why would any good player want to come and be lectured by a lunatic every week. You could see Everyone’s eyes glazing over.

Do you think Bellamy is not an angry ranting lunatic?

Nope. If you look at the shots in the dressing room he’s seated and talking normally 99% of the time. He blows up a couple of times a year when he needs to.

Bellamy has never had to deal with a squad like this. There is absolutely no evidence to support how he would or wouldn't react.

That’s because he whould not have recruited or re-signed the the players Maguire has

He has never been in a position to have to sign the type of players this club attracts.

Pretty simple really isn't it

Madge is trying his Damn hardest to fix a mess 20yrs in the making

 

[ElleryHanley]

I don't like being negative...and this season has been draining.

But the 100% bottom line is Maguire should be sat down and given a choice.

You let us appoint modern, young, assistants and who can run a game plan. No old, out of touch, yes men.

You let someone else coach the D.

A panel of 3 picks the team. You are excluded from sticking with "your men" and the team is held accountable.

OR

You are gone.