Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[cochise]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

 

[Geo]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

Concerns over attracting players I believe was the Sharpies narrative..

 

[tony soprano]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

Concerns over attracting players I believe was the Sharpies narrative..

Yeah definitely no to Morris. It’s just not Madge players won’t come here it’s the club and the spine too.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

 

[cochise]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

I can't say I've heard that and know many Sharks' supporters as we live a short walk to the ground. I understood during his final days he was more concerned that the future of his players was secured.

 

[WT2K]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

One of those players was fifita

 

[cochise]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

One of those players was fifita

If it was only Fifita then I don't care, if it was more than that its worrying.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

One of those players was fifita

If it was only Fifita then I don't care, if it was more than that its worrying.

Morris was too upfront with Fifita, suggesting he retire prior to the start of the season.

 

[851]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

One of those players was fifita

If it was only Fifita then I don't care, if it was more than that its worrying.

Quite a number of players came out in support of Morris, Johnson was one, maybe he got to vocal and they moved him on, picking Moylan over him was a bad mistake, but the Warriors got a good deal out of it

 

[KingRobbie]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

 

[cochise]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

One of those players was fifita

If it was only Fifita then I don't care, if it was more than that its worrying.

Quite a number of players came out in support of Morris, Johnson was one, maybe he got to vocal and they moved him on, picking Moylan over him was a bad mistake, but the Warriors got a good deal out of it

Yes Moylan was the other unhappy player and Dugan. All three were labelled as overpaid and over here (in the Shire),

 

[Harvey]

If there was an obvious solution to the Mage issues, don't you think it would be done and dusted? Nothing has happened nor will happen because there is no obvious replacement.
Those claiming Sheens is the replacement /saviour ,really are living in LA LA Land. Sheens has not coached in the NRL for how long? The game has changed, he hasn't. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheens but he is not the solution., nor are any of the suggested replacements, especially Flanagan.
Id rather come last for the next ten years than allow him anywhere near our club. We might be desperate ,but not that desperate to abandon all self respect. .

Not changing an underperforming coach for fear of not finding a replacement is challenging.

You don't make a change without a better plan in place, I'm struggling to find a better plan.

Queue John Morris under Sheens..in before paws..

Why was Morris sacked?

From the Shire news bulletin, he was viewed as an interim coach.

There were reports he wasn't upfront with players, that's a problem in my opinion.

One of those players was fifita

If it was only Fifita then I don't care, if it was more than that its worrying.

Quite a number of players came out in support of Morris, Johnson was one, maybe he got to vocal and they moved him on, picking Moylan over him was a bad mistake, but the Warriors got a good deal out of it

Yes Moylan was the other unhappy player and Dugan. All three were labelled as overpaid and over here (in the Shire),

All are off contract, at what point do they become value ala JTJ?

 

[KingRobbie]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

Nope.

Give me a quick summation.

 

[Telltails]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

I remember it well - and it was not on the side of Pascoe.

 

[cochise]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

I remember it well - and it was not on the side of Pascoe.

Thanks mate, most people didn't agree with me as I also said we deserved the cap penalty.

 

[hammertime]

Have we ever had a coach where players have talked about in an endearing fashion? The only one I can remember is sheensy.

Completely different to the other teams where you see them joking around with Wayne or Bellamy.

 

[Telltails]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

I remember it well - and it was not on the side of Pascoe.

Thanks mate, most people didn't agree with me as I also said we deserved the cap penalty.

We were all coming at you and you stood firm -

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

I remember it well - and it was not on the side of Pascoe.

Thanks mate, most people didn't agree with me as I also said we deserved the cap penalty.

We were all ( well a lot of us anyway) at you but you stood firm. Most anger directed at Greenburg and you got in the line of fire.

 

[KingRobbie]

I am seriously lost today, Madge isn't getting it done but I don't believe in making change unless there is a very clear plan on what happens after that to make things better. Otherwise you are likely to end up in the same place in 2 years time. There are only 2 coaches that I think can walk in with a high probability of solving this problem and they won't be coming to the Wests Tigers there are serious problems with every other option. I really don't know what we should do to get out of this and I am arrogant enough to believe that if I can't see the solution than no one else can. The most hopeless I have ever felt about the team.

U reckon Flanagan would come here or you do don’t rate him?

My problems with Flanagan come down to the issues he has had in the past. I don't think he should have a place in the game and I am not willing to change that opinion just because we need a coach.

They’ve all cheated at some point tho I guess

Yeah but he got caught twice, how many times did he cheat that weren't caught.

Didn’t your bestie Pascoe get suspended and do his time for cheating?

How many times did he cheat and didn’t get caught?

He’s still involved in the game.

Have you read my comments on that in the past?

I remember it well - and it was not on the side of Pascoe.

Thanks mate, most people didn't agree with me as I also said we deserved the cap penalty.

But you’ve mentioned before you associate with Pascoe as part of your Ambush stuff.

I don’t understand your immense hesitance towards Flanagan being the coach when you regularly work with a confirmed cheater as part of your association with the club?

Honest query here.