Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@batboy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464948) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464936) said:
@mike said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464922) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464910) said:
The writing is on the wall whether it’s rightly or wrongly it hasn’t worked with Madge, he’s taken the playing group backwards. **When the journo‘s are openly saying the reason we can’t attract talent is the coach that’s it you’re done**. We all know for all the rubbish they write this part at least is reasonably documented. We have to move quickly not a huge fan of Flanno, Morris & Ciraldo are really the only other options it will be one of those 3 I’m guessing.

So the journo’s say who’s in and who’s out now. That’ll do me.

Wake up mate I said they are openly saying it, they have been for some time it’s pretty clear Madge can’t attract players if you can’t see that you’re asleep.

Tell me ALL the players all the other coaches attracted over the years....
By my count, It's about 3-4 Top line Signings (In 22 Years)

Not counting the good fortune signings like Scott Prince and Pat Richards... Even with those, It's not 10!!

In 22 years - We haven't signed 10 top line players....
Change the coach as often as you like - You can't (and won't) change that.

A new coach every second week makes us less likely to attract players.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464493) said:
I'd be very careful letting him go without someone lined up... can you imagine one of his assistants as caretaker haha

Honestly that is what got us in the mess in the first place.
Imagine a struggling club giving the SuperCoach a 10 day deadline to decide if he is going to leave his current club a year early.
Should of, from day one agreed to move on from Cleary internally, agreed with Bennett to start in 2020 and figured out the rest afterwards.

I really wouldn’t care if we don’t have a proper coach installed at all next season. Once they are signed they can start working out what they need.

We aren’t going to getting more than two places off the bottom of the table next season so I really don’t see a point to signing a new coach so suddenly but if you have decided to move on from Madge there is no point keeping him around as a safeguard.
Cronulla did this, this year and had Fitzgibbon calling the shots from afar changing his roster 12 months in advance and they still managed to stay competitive through the season.
 
only 6 players remain since Madge took over,7 IF Musgrove is still here.goin by the nrl information handbook 2019
 
@vince-farrar said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464543) said:
If I was Michael Maguire I would just walk . He doesn’t deserve to be tormented by these serial non committed pretenders. 75% of this team need to be shown the door. Unfortunately Maguire will be the fall guy just like the last 10 years. Ground Hog Day!


Whatever, seriously ebbs and flows says it all about Maguires coaching ability!
 
@wt2k said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464791) said:
@gnr4life said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1464786) said:
It’s time for the annual WT’s post season melodrama. 3 years in a row we have had someone walk out. 2018 it was Cleary, 2019 Matterson and 2021 Aloiai. We’re gunning for 4 years in a row. Whose it gonna be???

Luciano


Hope so
 
The Chammas article where our Chairman refers to the results not reflecting the financial investment in the football dept etc is the end for Maguire. He refers to the review time period being a week. Hopefully a new coach will be announced asap.

I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465139) said:
The Chammas article has zero credibility as it's just another attempt by him at a get-square with Maguire after booting his "boy", Benji Marshall at the end of 2020. Nothing more than a criminal misuse of precious ink and paper.

The quotes from our Chairman cannot be passed off as a journalist wanting to get back at Maguire. It is the end for Maguire reading those comments.
 
Must be a terrible feeling for Madge. The team goes out and puts on that atrocious performance. I am sure he knows a number of them no longer have his back. The ice doesn't get any thinner.
 
I think our best option might be Kristian Woolf

Sounds like he's willing to come back to Australia and he's done a good job coaching Tonga and St Helens, taking them to a grand final win, and has been an assistant at the broncos and knights
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches
 
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?


I dont know, but i will stick by my comments and i am sure that i would be a lot closer to the mark than you are.Sheens is not here to appoint coaches.It is quite possible he will be asked his opinion but that would be the sum of his input.
Just as a matter of interest what would you say if Sheens said Madge is the best option?
 
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465152) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?


I dont know, but i will stick by my comments and i am sure that i would be a lot closer to the mark than you are.Sheens is not here to appoint coaches.It is quite possible he will be asked his opinion but that would be the sum of his input.
Just as a matter of interest what would you say if Sheens said Madge is the best option?

Maguire is gone. Read our Chairman's comments and the timeframe is within the week.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465158) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465152) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?


I dont know, but i will stick by my comments and i am sure that i would be a lot closer to the mark than you are.Sheens is not here to appoint coaches.It is quite possible he will be asked his opinion but that would be the sum of his input.
Just as a matter of interest what would you say if Sheens said Madge is the best option?

Maguire is gone. Read our Chairman's comments and the timeframe is within the week.


Evaded the question didnt you.
 
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465159) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465158) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465152) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?


I dont know, but i will stick by my comments and i am sure that i would be a lot closer to the mark than you are.Sheens is not here to appoint coaches.It is quite possible he will be asked his opinion but that would be the sum of his input.
Just as a matter of interest what would you say if Sheens said Madge is the best option?

Maguire is gone. Read our Chairman's comments and the timeframe is within the week.


Evaded the question didnt you.

I didn't bother answering it because you know very well Maguire is gone.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465161) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465159) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465158) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465152) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?


I dont know, but i will stick by my comments and i am sure that i would be a lot closer to the mark than you are.Sheens is not here to appoint coaches.It is quite possible he will be asked his opinion but that would be the sum of his input.
Just as a matter of interest what would you say if Sheens said Madge is the best option?

Maguire is gone. Read our Chairman's comments and the timeframe is within the week.


Evaded the question didnt you.

I didn't bother answering it because you know very well Maguire is gone.


Depends if they decide Madge will be the scapegoat,somebody certainly will
 
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465167) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465161) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465159) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465158) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465152) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465147) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1465135) said:
I would not be surprised if Sheens already has a new coach.


I would be amazed if he does since he has nothing to do with selecting coaches

How do you know?


I dont know, but i will stick by my comments and i am sure that i would be a lot closer to the mark than you are.Sheens is not here to appoint coaches.It is quite possible he will be asked his opinion but that would be the sum of his input.
Just as a matter of interest what would you say if Sheens said Madge is the best option?

Maguire is gone. Read our Chairman's comments and the timeframe is within the week.


Evaded the question didnt you.

I didn't bother answering it because you know very well Maguire is gone.


Depends if they decide Madge will be the scapegoat,somebody certainly will

Maguire is no scapegoat. He's been a disaster for the club.
 
Maguire is as good as gone but what player with any desire to win would want to line up next to the majority of that squad?
That performance said more about the players and their mentality than Maguire as a coach.
Stefano showed what players who want to win look like playing for the club and coach in a team getting smashed. A class above the rest.
 
I don’t understand why people on here are so worried about sacking Madge .
It is very clear he has lost the dressing room the players just not listening to him anymore.
Our defence is crap , as a a grade coach for many years , I can’t see how he has not at least been able to address this , it just gets worse week by week .
Then are attack has gone missing , I just don’t see how he can survive, because it will not get better next year .
 

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