Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[Guest]

There’s plenty of coaches who can replace Madge. But who can fix the Tigers’ TWO major issues?

Mark St John from Fox Sports
@markdfstjohn
September 7th, 2021 1:07 pm

The Tigers review has cited defence and recruitment as key areas they need to improve, which has put current coach Michael Maguire’s tenure in doubt beyond 2021.

But which of the potential candidates on the open market can help the club address those issues and end the longest finals drought in the NRL dating back to 2011?

Read on for the nine leading candidates to replace Michael Maguire if the Tigers choose to part ways with their embattled coach.

CAMERON CIRALDO

The current Panthers assistant and defence coach is arguably the most highly rated up and coming coach in the business and is considered the next cab off the rank for inexperienced coaches looking for an opportunity.

The 36-year-old coached Penrith to three wins and three losses as interim coach the season Anthony Griffin was sacked in 2018, while he has also coached Italy to three wins and three losses.

The Tigers desperately need to fix their defence and judging by Ciraldo’s record at the Panthers over the last two seasons he would be a sound investment.

The Panthers have conceded 524 points in the past two seasons, averaging less than 12 points against per game for the best record in the NRL and while they have a better roster, clearly Ciraldo’s defensive strategy works.

TIM SHEENS

The Wests Tigers’ only premiership winning coach is set to begin a new role with the club involving development and pathways when he arrives in October.

However given his experience and standing with the club it would be tempting to go back to the future if the club miss out on a few of their targets.

Sheens has won 390 of his 767 games as a head coach for the Panthers, Raiders, Cowboys, Tigers, Hull Kingston Rovers and Widness.

Sheens is a premiership winner and he knows what it takes to reach the last game of the season, while he also knows what makes the Tigers tick as an organisation, so going back to go forward might not as crazy as it sounds.

SHANE FLANAGAN

The former Sharks premiership winning coach has made no secret of his desire to return to the head coaching ranks and he has been linked with the Tigers job already this season.

The 55-year-old won 108 of his 198 games at the helm of the Sharks including a drought-breaking premiership win in 2016.

Importantly Flanagan built his successful teams at Cronulla based on hard work, fitness and grit in defence, which are three areas the Tigers desperately need to improve in.

The Tigers have also identified recruitment and retention as an area of concern and Flanagan has the clout to help attract stars to the club.

PAUL GREEN

The current Queensland coach has made no secret of his desire to return to the NRL coaching ranks when the right opportunity becomes available.

The 48-year-old coached the Cowboys to 96 wins from 181 games including two grand finals and one premiership in 2015, while he lost his maiden Origin series 2-1 in 2021.

Green has been linked with the potential Brisbane expansion team, but he will face staunch competition from master coach Wayne Bennett for the role if it comes to fruition.

Green’s Cowboys career fell away badly in his final three seasons at the club, but he is a tough task master and a proven winner, who also has the ability to attract stars to the club.

WAYNE BENNETT

The current Rabbitohs coach will finish up at the Redfern club at the end of the season and has consistently maintained he will return to Queensland.

Bennett is reportedly being chased as the Brisbane expansion team’s inaugural coach, but if the new club’s entry into the NRL is delayed, Bennett may reconsider his position in a bid to coach in 2022.

With nearly 600 wins from 969 games, Bennett is the most experienced candidate on the open market and he would solve both defensive and recruitment issues for the Tigers.

Bennett was being chased by the Tigers before he signed with the Rabbitohs in 2018 and he could be the circuit breaker the club desperately needs even if it is on a short-term deal.

KRISTIAN WOOLF

The current St Helens coach has won 27 of his 36 games in charge since taking the reins in 2020 and he also coached the Knights in 2019 in an interim role.

The 46-year-old has international coaching experience having led Tonga’s rise to prominence with nine wins, including victories over the Kangaroos and Kiwis.

Woolf would provide the Tigers with access to his contacts in the international game and Super League to help drive recruitment and retention.

However Woolf is not really tested in the NRL and replacing a premiership winner with an inexperienced coach at NRL level may not be the answer for the Tigers if they want instant results.

BRAD FITTLER

The current NSW Blues coach has been linked to a return to the NRL ranks already this season when Eels coach Brad Arthur was feeling the heat.

Fittler coached the Roosters to 25 wins from 60 games from 2007 to 2009, while he also coached at international level with Lebanon at the 2017 World Cup.

However Fittler has come a long way as a coach and has been a huge part of the Blues winning three of the last four Origin series since he took over in 2018.

Fittler would definitely help the Tigers attract players, but there are doubts if he can translate his success at Origin level to the grind of a full NRL season.

JOHN MORRIS

The former Sharks coach has signed on as Jason Demetriou’s assistant at the Rabbitohs next season after Wayne Bennett’s departure.

The 41-year-old coached Cronulla to 24 wins from 53 games and two finals series and was considered hard done by to be sacked earlier this season.

However the knock on Morris at the Sharks was that he didn’t win enough games against top eight teams and he didn’t help attract stars to the club.

Given those are two areas the Tigers desperately need to improve in, Morris may have to bide his time and rebuild his reputation at the Bunnies before getting another shot at a head coach role.

STEVE MCNAMARA

The current Catalans coach has taken his side eight points clear at the top of the Super League ladder this season.

The 49-year-old has coaches 98 wins from 189 games for Bradford and Catalans in the Super League and has also coached England to 15 wins from 24 matches from 2010 to 2015.

McNamara has worked under Trent Robinson at the Roosters so he knows what it takes to build a strong defensive unit.

McNamara would also give the Tigers access to his international connections which could be a huge asset in their recruitment of overseas talent.

 

[Guest]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

If a prospective recruit contacted one of our players and asked about joining WTs, what do you believe the advice would be?

And exactly which player in our current squad - Would you be taking life advice from?

Haha...

Not much life experience across the roster eh.

Non of them strike me as genius's - They don't even do what they do efficiently...

Bunch of mamas boys.
Eat at restaurants for every meal and play video games.

Think they're rock stars.
Haven't worked a hard day in their lives.

More worried about their hair and looking good on TV than playing footy.

Extremely upsetting.

I remember watching an ex NBA star be interviewed.
He said sometimes he'd jump in his car and just drive around to watch people work because it amused him.

 

[batboy]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

If a prospective recruit contacted one of our players and asked about joining WTs, what do you believe the advice would be?

And exactly which player in our current squad - Would you be taking life advice from?

I believe it prudent to gain insight into the club you may be joining? Players know one another and it would be naive to believe they don't contact one another.

For example, what is it like to play for Madge? The answer - a skull and crossbones.

How does that remotely answer the question?

Wouldn't you do checks and balances before signing for a new club? Really, what planet are you on!

I'm on the one - Where I look over our playing squad and can't find enough brains amongst them combined to cut the crust off a sandwich....
I know more about Footy than most of them - And I haven't played since Mod League.
Again, Which one of our current crop of champions are you getting your life advice from?

 

[BAGNF05]

Brad Arthur survived a wooden spoon year with a much better roster than ours and and a frustrated supporter base but it also meant moving on the players that were not geling.

This is the key. It’s hard to move players on but not impossible. Everything is too hard at WT.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

If a prospective recruit contacted one of our players and asked about joining WTs, what do you believe the advice would be?

And exactly which player in our current squad - Would you be taking life advice from?

I believe it prudent to gain insight into the club you may be joining? Players know one another and it would be naive to believe they don't contact one another.

For example, what is it like to play for Madge? The answer - a skull and crossbones.

How does that remotely answer the question?

Wouldn't you do checks and balances before signing for a new club? Really, what planet are you on!

I'm on the one - Where I look over our playing squad and can't find enough brains amongst them combined to cut the crust off a sandwich....
I know more about Footy than most of them - And I haven't played since Mod League.
Again, Which one of our current crop of champions are you getting your life advice from?

Are you the full quid?

 

[BAGNF05]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

If a prospective recruit contacted one of our players and asked about joining WTs, what do you believe the advice would be?

And exactly which player in our current squad - Would you be taking life advice from?

I believe it prudent to gain insight into the club you may be joining? Players know one another and it would be naive to believe they don't contact one another.

For example, what is it like to play for Madge? The answer - a skull and crossbones.

So the review will find the tooth fairy or Santa Claus should be coach?

 

[batboy]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

If a prospective recruit contacted one of our players and asked about joining WTs, what do you believe the advice would be?

And exactly which player in our current squad - Would you be taking life advice from?

I believe it prudent to gain insight into the club you may be joining? Players know one another and it would be naive to believe they don't contact one another.

For example, what is it like to play for Madge? The answer - a skull and crossbones.

How does that remotely answer the question?

Wouldn't you do checks and balances before signing for a new club? Really, what planet are you on!

I'm on the one - Where I look over our playing squad and can't find enough brains amongst them combined to cut the crust off a sandwich....
I know more about Footy than most of them - And I haven't played since Mod League.
Again, Which one of our current crop of champions are you getting your life advice from?

Are you the full quid?

Very much so - It's Ok... I won't bother asking again.

I'm sure the super talented players in the comp would take to heart the opinions of all the players at most here want sacked, Or wouldn't get a start elsewhere, Or don't know how to win games, Or have never played anywhere else....

Move on.

 

[TrueTiger]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

To protect Maguire from the boys club....if you cant see that after 15 years of following the club,then I dont know what will convince you,,,

 

[TrueTiger]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

 

[BAGNF05]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

That was a low act. But sometimes these things happen when you play with aggression. A few of our guys should watch him play.

 

[WT2K]

I can't see Bennett being the next coach. If they sack Madge they will throw a rookie coach in there. Because thats all they will be able to afford.

Why is that all they can afford. Club is doing well financially and Bellamy level coaches cost less than a Latrell. IMO if they let Madge go they should just though stupid money at Ciraldo and put your eggs in that basket.

Wouldn't they have to pay out Madge for breaking his contract?

You missed the Chammas clause...

For those at home playing alone who also missed it..

Maguire not the problem: Brooks in cross-hairs as Tigers ask ‘where to now?’
By Michael Chammas
April 12, 2021 — 6.00am

Michael Maguire has a clause in his recently-extended two-year contract that would allow the Wests Tigers to hit the eject button without much of an impact to the bottom line.

It’s the protection mechanism that the club were adamant they needed in case the rumblings around Maguire’s relationship with the players spilled over and left them with no choice but to part ways.

So according to Chammas as far back as 12 April 2021, the "rumblings around Maguire's relationship with the players" was considered serious enough to include a protection mechanism in Maguire's extension contract.

If a prospective recruit contacted one of our players and asked about joining WTs, what do you believe the advice would be?

And exactly which player in our current squad - Would you be taking life advice from?

I believe it prudent to gain insight into the club you may be joining? Players know one another and it would be naive to believe they don't contact one another.

For example, what is it like to play for Madge? The answer - a skull and crossbones.

So the review will find the tooth fairy or Santa Claus should be coach?

Would add the Easter Bunny to your list.

 

[Masterton]

“I’m definitely a big fan of Madge,” Leilua said. “When he brought me over here, I was only a 20-minute player. He’s turned me into an 80-minute player. He’s been a big part of not just my fitness but my defence as well.

“I was sort of known as being a bit lazy, but he transformed me into a consistent 80-minute player. The boys in the club love his coaching. He cares for us, he’s done a lot for my family as well. I definitely hope he stays with us, I want to continue playing under him at the Tigers.”

Must admit, I thought Luce might be a bit dirty about BJ.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

TT, we have Daine Laurie, Jordan Hill and Brandon Tumeth (and probably a few others) of indigenous ancestry at WTs.

 

[Tiger5150]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

TT, we have Daine Laurie, Jordan Hill and Brandon Tumeth (and probably a few others) of indigenous ancestry at WTs.

None of them were here when Latrell was weighing up the option of coming here

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

TT, we have Daine Laurie, Jordan Hill and Brandon Tumeth (and probably a few others) of indigenous ancestry at WTs.

None of them were here when Latrell was weighing up the option of coming here

And ..........

 

[Telltails]

“I’m definitely a big fan of Madge,” Leilua said. “When he brought me over here, I was only a 20-minute player. He’s turned me into an 80-minute player. He’s been a big part of not just my fitness but my defence as well.

“I was sort of known as being a bit lazy, but he transformed me into a consistent 80-minute player. The boys in the club love his coaching. He cares for us, he’s done a lot for my family as well. I definitely hope he stays with us, I want to continue playing under him at the Tigers.”

Must admit, I thought Luce might be a bit dirty about BJ.

That's not going to please the - "he has lost the dressing room" posters.

 

[Tiger5150]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

TT, we have Daine Laurie, Jordan Hill and Brandon Tumeth (and probably a few others) of indigenous ancestry at WTs.

None of them were here when Latrell was weighing up the option of coming here

And ..........

Its relevant to your response that Latrell wanted to play with the Brotherhood at Souffs.

What is the relevance of listing indigenous players who had nothing to do with Tigers when Latrell was making that decision?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

TT, we have Daine Laurie, Jordan Hill and Brandon Tumeth (and probably a few others) of indigenous ancestry at WTs.

None of them were here when Latrell was weighing up the option of coming here

And ..........

Its relevant to your response that Latrell wanted to play with the Brotherhood at Souffs.

What is the relevance of listing indigenous players who had nothing to do with Tigers when Latrell was making that decision?

Oh dear

 

[Tiger5150]

Mess left for him? He’s signed 28/30 players in our current squad. When will people wake up??


I don't disagree with your general comments about the outcomes with Madge - he has failed with the roster he has.

However I don't buy the argument about him signing / re-signing 28/30 players and therefore it's "his roster". Yes he was left with a mess.

Up until pre-season 2021 3 of the Top 4 money-earners in our club had been signed by Ivan Cleary and their contracts were still burning a hole in our roster - Reynolds, Mbye, Packer. Brooks was the 4th top-earning player and he was re-signed 5 weeks into Maguire's tenure, the same year he won the Dally M halfback of the year. Obviously the discussions around Brooks had been ongoing before Madge joined, or at the earliest when Madge was just starting. What's Madge going to do, come in and not renew the reigning Dally M halfback from his junior club?

Packer and Reynolds managed 31 games combined for Tigers between 2019-2021.

Now - give any coach in the NRL a roster where 3 of the top 4 players were signed to long-term deals by someone else, and for whom the output is horribly below not just expectations, but of your average first-grader. Restrict 2 of those Top 4 players to 6.2 matches played per season, each.

Additionally, take $375K off the salary cap of the first two seasons under that coach, for mistakes made by the CEO and previous coaches.

Then tell that coach "it's your roster mate" when he battles to fulfil the lower 26 spots with the remaining money available to him.

Madge bashers are blind to this pure fact.

This comment should be read to the board as exhibit A after any review.

Quoting money issues as his downfall is a joke. We offered Latrell 1.2 mil a season and that was when all those high earners were still at the club.

Did latrell want to play with our superstars?

Latrell would’ve brought actual superstars.

This new fear of not paying “overs” for players is why we have such a stupid amount of cap space and absolutely no one to spend it on. Now we’re gonna get burned for it now and the future because no one in their right mind is coming to this club, even for the whole 1.6

Latrell was offered overs.

And he didn't come, because he didn't want to be "the only" good player... From his own mouth.

bs on that excuse ...he wanted to play with the brotherhood....end of story...and would you want him,especilly the way he injured a previous good ""mate""

TT, we have Daine Laurie, Jordan Hill and Brandon Tumeth (and probably a few others) of indigenous ancestry at WTs.

None of them were here when Latrell was weighing up the option of coming here

And ..........

Its relevant to your response that Latrell wanted to play with the Brotherhood at Souffs.

What is the relevance of listing indigenous players who had nothing to do with Tigers when Latrell was making that decision?

Oh dear

if Ive missed something, feel free to explain

 

[Guest]

He’s turned me into an 80-minute player. He’s been a big part of not just my fitness but my defence as well

That's funny. He's giving Madge credit for his defence.
With friends like that........