Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Cheers. Looks like madge has the majority of players trust.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

This has a sense of credibility for me. If it is true, I'd stick with Madge and get rid of Brooks, Nofo and Liddle. Thank goodness Mbye is gone. Shouldn't be too hard to find a home for Brooks and Liddle but we might have to cough up a fair chunk of Nofo's pay.
I have been slowly changing my mind on Madge. I'd let him have next year on the basis that a big improvement is needed for him to keep his job beyond 2022. That would almost certainly mean making the top 8.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

There is at least one name in the Pro Madge camp that is wrong.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

I sincerely hope this is good mail. Brooks and Nof should be first out the door because it’s now beyond a coincidence those 2 have outlasted every single coach.

I hope this makes it out as more ammo for the media
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

1 out of the 4 gone and would not care if the other 3 went this offseason either.
I say Madge has done all the hard work so give him a shot with some salary cap space and see how we go. Players are not and should not be bigger then the club in my eyes.
A lot of the younger talent come here knowing Madge is the coach so that is a good thing.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Of those players you mentioned, the pro Madge players are guys who definitely leave more out on the field than the likes of Brooks, Mbye and Liddle so the choice for me who I'd move on is clear.
 
@willow said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468387) said:
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Of those players you mentioned, the pro Madge players are guys who definitely leave more out on the field than the likes of Brooks, Mbye and Liddle so the choice for me who I'd move on is clear.

Harsh on Liddle
 
@willow said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468387) said:
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Of those players you mentioned, the pro Madge players are guys who definitely leave more out on the field than the likes of Brooks, Mbye and Liddle so the choice for me who I'd move on is clear.

Brooks struggled with the ball in hand but his effort especially in defense was always on. Against the Bulldogs he was chasing people on the otherside of rhe park. Madge promoted Brooks to captain. If he was butting heads no chance Madge puts him as captain or Brooks just stays in his lane. I don’t really buy that one outside of Madge trying to make him play a style he doesn’t play. The heat on Brooks has been huge.

Nofa for sure something was wrong all year with him, his leg drive didn’t exist and he kept going infield instead of straight. His offloads and tackle bust dried up as well. He was going at fellow players during games also. I could imagine he would say something.

Liddle also put alot of effort in he just isn’t an 80min hooker & his strength running just vanished. Madge signed him to a longer deal during the season. Would be strange considering he had an offer from the Bulldogs that he would stay if he hated Madge.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Why would he select those players every week for 3 years straight. Sounds like innuendo and hearsay. Farah played his guts out for this club yet Taylor had no problem dropping him. Sounds like a last ditch plan to save Madge's job.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Wow players take accountability who would of thought.
 
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Lozza on the Big Sports Breaky has just said that the Tigers would be nuts to let Madge go!

Who is the football brain in the organisation if he’s gone?

Sheens? Hartigan? Kimmorley?

Are you not available?

If they seek my wisdom I’ll be happy to oblige.

Oh no are we that desperate 😛

I’ve just been Skyping with Sheensy and Johnny Morris. They want me there in November for some preseason drills.

You helping out at Souths?

Johnny Morris isn’t going to South’s, he’s coming home. And he’s bringing Latrell and Cam Murray with him. Get excited Tigers fans.
 
@coivtny said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468372) said:
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

This has a sense of credibility for me. If it is true, I'd stick with Madge and get rid of Brooks, Nofo and Liddle. Thank goodness Mbye is gone. Shouldn't be too hard to find a home for Brooks and Liddle but we might have to cough up a fair chunk of Nofo's pay.
I have been slowly changing my mind on Madge. I'd let him have next year on the basis that a big improvement is needed for him to keep his job beyond 2022. That would almost certainly mean making the top 8.

This is where the issue is. He nor anyone else won’t make this squad a top 8 team next year.
Does another coach help recruitment or are the club prepared to ride the media barrage for a rebuild. These are the real questions that matter.

We need to accept we will end 10th at best next year. Does a new coach buy time for leadership?

My take is simple if you can get Ciraldo or Ryles with Sheens in charge you have to make the move. If not it makes no sense to pay out a coach and sign any English coach, Flanagan, Morris.

Get rid of players that don’t want to be here no matter the names and cost. Build with the players that will play hard and bring through kids. It’s a long term play but there’s no way out of this.
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

Ironically the latter 4 *should* be the ones most grateful, as the club has shown them loyalty in the face of either long running poor form, or multiple injuries in the case of Liddle.

Not surprised those players with a good attitude who generally have a dig are behind the coach.
 
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468415) said:
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

Ironically the latter 4 *should* be the ones most grateful, as the club has shown them loyalty in the face of either long running poor form, or multiple injuries in the case of Liddle.

Not surprised those players with a good attitude who generally have a dig are behind the coach.

There isn’t a team in the world where some players don’t hate the coach. Many of Bill Belichicks players left and would never come back.They had leaders for years in the playing group. We are in a vicious cycle leaderless, have a lack of talent and brand is damaged and can’t recruit out of it. This is where leadership need to be asked real questions. Documentaries, leaking to media, saying we are a finals team and anything less is unacceptable.

They need new leaders in the front office more than anything else.
 
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@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

There is at least one name in the Pro Madge camp that is wrong.

Lucy? Would have to be off him for BJ’s treatment
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468414) said:
@coivtny said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468372) said:
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

This has a sense of credibility for me. If it is true, I'd stick with Madge and get rid of Brooks, Nofo and Liddle. Thank goodness Mbye is gone. Shouldn't be too hard to find a home for Brooks and Liddle but we might have to cough up a fair chunk of Nofo's pay.
I have been slowly changing my mind on Madge. I'd let him have next year on the basis that a big improvement is needed for him to keep his job beyond 2022. That would almost certainly mean making the top 8.

This is where the issue is. He nor anyone else won’t make this squad a top 8 team next year.
Does another coach help recruitment or are the club prepared to ride the media barrage for a rebuild. These are the real questions that matter.

We need to accept we will end 10th at best next year. Does a new coach buy time for leadership?

My take is simple if you can get Ciraldo or Ryles with Sheens in charge you have to make the move. If not it makes no sense to pay out a coach and sign any English coach, Flanagan, Morris.

Get rid of players that don’t want to be here no matter the names and cost. Build with the players that will play hard and bring through kids. It’s a long term play but there’s no way out of this.

Jeez I think 10th would be an achievement. Not finishing last as well
 
Maybe Lee’s review was genius. Work out who the biggest sooks are and clean em out. Here’s hoping 🤞
 
@tyga said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468357) said:
I’m hearing theres a bigger issue at the Tigers which will spill out. The group is split. It has been reported before but there’s a pro Madge camp, detractors and in between. I trust who told me this but again it may not be right and unfair on some players so take it with a grain of salt.

Pro Madge Luciano, Blore, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Laurie, Maumalo, Mikalele, Douihei, Simpkin, Simpkins. There are detractors in Brooks, Nofa, Mbye, Liddle.

The club has to make a decision to move players on, the coach or both. The issues are known and o no one will sign at the Tigers. The other issue is the detractors have a word straight to the top causing distrust in the team and coaching staff.

I sense Sheens will remember this happening to him in a past life. I wouldn’t be so certain Madge is sacked.

Management are aware the team is not good enough even playing at full potential but unless they sort it out nothing will happen. If I was a betting man you may see a player clean out and it may or may not include the coach.

Who would have thought Brooks and Noffa involved in white anting, Noffa would go crying straight to Lee who more than likely was the one who got that certain winger his inflated ridiculous contract.
I still believe we need to move on from Madge but I would also be in favour of moving on from those two players in particular also.
 
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