Madges Presser

[wonka]

My mate is a Panthers fan & has never seen an opposition club warm up for so long as the Tigers do. No wonder we look lethargic.

 

[BAGNF05]

Think he hit the nail on the head with everything he said in his press conference. Quite simply called out the players for their lack of commitment effort and their inconsistency

As he said, he shouldn't have to tell NRL players that they should defend every set with effort and urgency, it's embarrassing what they dish up.

I reckon the warm up was too long ..
They looked spent .

Did they spray the magic spray in Cini’s eyes?

 

[Cairnstigers]

In Madges Presser he says all the right things and is honest but at the end of the day, he has not got this team firing. Half of the players do not compete in defence and are lazy players in the 1% plays. They seem happy just to turn up do the minimum and get paid. The team has little unity or cohesion in defence or attack with Nofoaluma still unable to number up year after year for example.Brooks still looks lost although he can tackle. I think the only answer is to get a new coach. Get Bennett or Flanagan as sadly Madge has had little effect and the culture of the place is going downhill.

Nah sticking with the coach sack the players.

Agreed I mean how many Coaches can one team go through…Seriously!! How bloody embarrassing…

Brooks needs to be tapped on the shoulder and told to move on enough is enough, we need a confident halve to partner Adam…Other wise it’ll be ground hog day for a really really long time to come.

Time to sign Reynolds
Someone will get desperate and Take Brooks at full freight
But it's time
Same with Nofoaluma
Big mistake to re sign him for so long
I would get in Ferguson on a two year deal
Someone will take Nofoaluma
He simply needs to be dropped
He would have to the the worst Defensive winger in the history of the game
As far as our forwards go
They need to grow a set of balls
They are gutless
Put your bodies on the line you bludger
I want to see big changes next week or Madge will lose my confidence
Heads need to roll Wether on not Madge thinks our current picked forwards are the best of the lot
They had their chance
Bring in Blore Amone Musgrove and Simpkins
It's time to give some of these guys a shot
I would drop Tamou Garner Seyfarth and Lucy

Blore and Ofahengaue can play the second row
Simpkins at lock
Amone would be better than Tamou
I would also look at a Madden Doueihi halves paring with Cini and Hoffman on the wings and Talau and Bj as our centres
Brooks needs a long spell in reserves

We need changes and we need big ones
Our players need to be accountable
Let's see what our other guys can do
We have absolutely NOTHING TO LOSE

 

[hobbo1]

Think he hit the nail on the head with everything he said in his press conference. Quite simply called out the players for their lack of commitment effort and their inconsistency

As he said, he shouldn't have to tell NRL players that they should defend every set with effort and urgency, it's embarrassing what they dish up.

I reckon the warm up was too long ..
They looked spent .

Did they spray the magic spray in Cini’s eyes?

No but they mixed up the grip spray with WD-40 ?

 

[WT2K]

Think he hit the nail on the head with everything he said in his press conference. Quite simply called out the players for their lack of commitment effort and their inconsistency

As he said, he shouldn't have to tell NRL players that they should defend every set with effort and urgency, it's embarrassing what they dish up.

I reckon the warm up was too long ..
They looked spent .

Did they spray the magic spray in Cini’s eyes?

If I didn't have my glasses on... You'd think kepaoa was back on the wing

 

[BAGNF05]

Think he hit the nail on the head with everything he said in his press conference. Quite simply called out the players for their lack of commitment effort and their inconsistency

As he said, he shouldn't have to tell NRL players that they should defend every set with effort and urgency, it's embarrassing what they dish up.

I reckon the warm up was too long ..
They looked spent .

Did they spray the magic spray in Cini’s eyes?

If I didn't have my glasses on... You'd think kepaoa was back on the wing

I don’t think even the great Asu has had the drops that bad

 

[Snake]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .

 

[BAGNF05]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .

New coach will have same plodders mate

 

[BZN]

I just don’t know what the answer is anymore.
The fact that our defence remains hopeless, he can’t get the team to show some energy and player like Nofa who continually makes the same defensive reads over and over again.
I know it’s the players but boy the coach has to take quite a bit of responsibility for this mess of a team.

Maybe, just maybe @momo_amp_medo the answer is
when our younger players are ready to be promoted en masse to first grade [provided they continue to play well] their coach will be promoted with them to replace Madge.

 

[hobbo1]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .

Eisenhuth seems to be going ok

Just saying 😂

 

[Spud_Murphy]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .

Eisenhuth seems to be going ok

Just saying ?

This is exactly it. Everyone says we have a team full of plodders who wouldn’t make first grade with any other team, yet when many of these players do leave they do exactly that - walk straight into the top 17 at their new club and more often than not they perform better. For reasons unbeknown to all and sundry this place just stinks and there appears to be no fixing it.

 

[hobbo1]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .

Eisenhuth seems to be going ok

Just saying ?

This is exactly it. Everyone says we have a team full of plodders who wouldn’t make first grade with any other team, yet when many of these players do leave they do exactly that - walk straight into the top 17 at their new club and more often than not they perform better. For reasons unbeknown to all and sundry this place just stinks and there appears to be no fixing it.

It must be the water

 

[Tigersmurf]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .


New coach will have same plodders mate

What message does sacking the coach send to the players? "It's not you guys, we know you are trying really hard, we just cannot find the right coach to stroke your ego and tell you how good you can be".

As soon as we get through round 10, he needs to bring in the new blood and give them a taste of First Grade. This season is gone for us, and if we start next season with M'Bye, Brooks, Garner, Twal, Joey, Liddle, Seyfarth, Packer, Musgrove, Roberts, Chee Kam then nothing will change - Ever! I left Nofo off that list, but part of me really wants to add him as he is the inconsistency the epitomises the Wests Tigers.

When I started this post I didn't realise how long the list of players I named would be...I am shocked that there are so many and as Yoda would say "That is why you fail".

 

[BAGNF05]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .


New coach will have same plodders mate

What message does sacking the coach send to the players? "It's not you guys, we know you are trying really hard, we just cannot find the right coach to stroke your ego and tell you how good you can be".

As soon as we get through round 10, he needs to bring in the new blood and give them a taste of First Grade. This season is gone for us, and if we start next season with M'Bye, Brooks, Garner, Twal, Joey, Liddle, Seyfarth, Packer, Musgrove, Roberts, Chee Kam then nothing will change - Ever! I left Nofo off that list, but part of me really wants to add him as he is the inconsistency the epitomises the Wests Tigers.

When I started this post I didn't realise how long the list of players I named would be...I am shocked that there are so many and as Yoda would say "That is why you fail".

It’s seriously dud city

 

[Snake]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .


New coach will have same plodders mate

What message does sacking the coach send to the players? "It's not you guys, we know you are trying really hard, we just cannot find the right coach to stroke your ego and tell you how good you can be".

As soon as we get through round 10, he needs to bring in the new blood and give them a taste of First Grade. This season is gone for us, and if we start next season with M'Bye, Brooks, Garner, Twal, Joey, Liddle, Seyfarth, Packer, Musgrove, Roberts, Chee Kam then nothing will change - Ever! I left Nofo off that list, but part of me really wants to add him as he is the inconsistency the epitomises the Wests Tigers.

When I started this post I didn't realise how long the list of players I named would be...I am shocked that there are so many and as Yoda would say "That is why you fail".

Yep that's the list ..add Nuffie( i got my contract )your onto something. I agree things could change after round 10 that's if the coach is still here.

 

[notarealtiger]

I’m not convinced a new coach fixes things to be honest. It’s a half transformed club. Sacking him now does nothing. It will be 90% his team next year and that’s his used by date if he doesn’t get results. I’m frustrated too but booting another coach just adds to the narrative that the joint is a coaching graveyard.

Unless we somehow snagged Craig Bellamy, a coach change alone won't solve this. I think the coaching staff need to be looked at though, whoever coaches the attack is struggling, and likewise defence.

our defence is beyond garbage , are we using the wrong systems ? I feel we are too compressed , because some of our inner defenders are poor laterally , which means teams spread it , and carve us on the edge .

Also why do we always compress on the block when it’s clear , the winger with ball is the target , and they aren’t even thinking about hitting the hole runners .

Not really, because they carve us up through the middle too. It's line speed and tackle strength. Our players are very weak tacklers. Our markers are always messy and on the back foot with the third tackler unable to get back in the defensive line and the momentum builds throughout the set to the point where we're absolutely shot by the 4th and 5th tackle. We rarely pressure the kicker as a consequence and we get pinned down to start our attacking sets. We basically aren't competitive in the basics of football. It's great to talk about Brooks and our backs and all that, but our forwards can't tackle well and we're not winning games until they do.

Glad someone else mentioned this. I've felt it's been a big problem for a long time. We're almost always losing the ruck, and when we get up off the players we walk backwards and let them walk forward off the mark which gives their players more space. We're always playing on the back foot.

If you watch a team like Melbourne when they're defending they drive the players right into the ground and get up with their knees slightly digging into them, never taking a step back from marker. Those little plays make all the difference.

 

[BZN]

My mate is a Panthers fan & has never seen an opposition club warm up for so long as the Tigers do. No wonder we look lethargic.

Congratulations @kafta I feel you may have found the key to Madge's current coaching methods.
While all the other teams are getting heaps of injuries, Madge gets our guys to warm up properly therefore avoiding injuries such as...
if our blokes dont run fast they wont get torn hamstrings.
If they dont tackle hard they wont get shoulder, or upper body injuries generally.
if they dont jump high for the ball they wont get knee or back injuries etc etc etc.
Then, by the time we get to the 10th last match just watch us go all the way to the semis, as all the other teams will be decimated by injury, we'll have a fully fit team.
I reckon Madge will be proven to be a genius :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

 

[Cairnstigers]

The coach has set himself up to be punted , the team is a rabble has been for a couple of seasons. Maguires stubbiness for what ever reason not to surround himself with some professional assistants to help with attacking and defensive structures is going to cost him his job.
The constant selection of individuals that just can not perform to NRL level is another weakness that is being exposed ..I am so over reading posters backing many of these players .,these players are just plodders that have been elevated to a level that they would not attain at any other club !
I DO blame the coach as he is the one responsible for this mess .. He selects these plodders ever week it is pathetic watching these pretenders .

Eisenhuth seems to be going ok

Just saying ?

This is exactly it. Everyone says we have a team full of plodders who wouldn’t make first grade with any other team, yet when many of these players do leave they do exactly that - walk straight into the top 17 at their new club and more often than not they perform better. For reasons unbeknown to all and sundry this place just stinks and there appears to be no fixing it.

It must be the water

Or the Balmain Bug

 

[BZN]

Think he hit the nail on the head with everything he said in his press conference. Quite simply called out the players for their lack of commitment effort and their inconsistency

As he said, he shouldn't have to tell NRL players that they should defend every set with effort and urgency, it's embarrassing what they dish up.

I reckon the warm up was too long ..
They looked spent .

Did they spray the magic spray in Cini’s eyes?

No but they mixed up the grip spray with WD-40 ?

[/QUOTE]

but I love it :upside_down_face: :joy: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[BAGNF05]

I’m not convinced a new coach fixes things to be honest. It’s a half transformed club. Sacking him now does nothing. It will be 90% his team next year and that’s his used by date if he doesn’t get results. I’m frustrated too but booting another coach just adds to the narrative that the joint is a coaching graveyard.

Unless we somehow snagged Craig Bellamy, a coach change alone won't solve this. I think the coaching staff need to be looked at though, whoever coaches the attack is struggling, and likewise defence.

our defence is beyond garbage , are we using the wrong systems ? I feel we are too compressed , because some of our inner defenders are poor laterally , which means teams spread it , and carve us on the edge .

Also why do we always compress on the block when it’s clear , the winger with ball is the target , and they aren’t even thinking about hitting the hole runners .

Not really, because they carve us up through the middle too. It's line speed and tackle strength. Our players are very weak tacklers. Our markers are always messy and on the back foot with the third tackler unable to get back in the defensive line and the momentum builds throughout the set to the point where we're absolutely shot by the 4th and 5th tackle. We rarely pressure the kicker as a consequence and we get pinned down to start our attacking sets. We basically aren't competitive in the basics of football. It's great to talk about Brooks and our backs and all that, but our forwards can't tackle well and we're not winning games until they do.

This is excellent analysis of our issues in my opinion, I feel the refs are aware of this and referee us out of games sometimes too