Maguire Signs Until End of 2023

@Sart0ri said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185577) said:
Extending him now shows the board and club have faith in him, loyalty is a two way street.

So is results
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185562) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185553) said:
If and when we make the finals then upgrade, not before.

And if we don't make the 8 can you provide a list of coaches that are available that could

If we don’t make the 8 nothing has really changed.
 
I don't think he would sign an extended contract. How much longer do we have him for? Another year or two? I would maybe add another year to it and see how we all go. The club could get upset with him, he might get upset with the club....all sorts of stuff could happen.
This is a results driven business and Madge, if anyone, would respect that. last thing we need is a Broncos situation to happen to us again like the mess that we were in when Cleary decided to jump ship.
 
I think regardless if we make the 8 or not, he provides everything(including the stabilty) we've craved.

Madge is the only coach we've had who has capably addressed the core issues of this team.
He's implemented standards to enhance player performance and individual development.
Has applied strategic game planning that only builds teamwork and trust.
He's basically doing everything that changes the DNA of a team.
 
@Lauren said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185609) said:
I think regardless if we make the 8 or not, he provides everything(including the stabilty) we've craved.

Madge is the only coach we've had who has capably addressed the core issues of this team.
He's implemented standards to enhance player performance and individual development.
Has applied strategic game planning that only builds teamwork and trust.
He's basically doing everything that changes the DNA of a team.

Agreed which is why he should be extended.The cupboard is bare with decent coaches available
 
@Lauren said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185609) said:
I think regardless if we make the 8 or not, he provides everything(including the stabilty) we've craved.

Madge is the only coach we've had who has capably addressed the core issues of this team.
He's implemented standards to enhance player performance and individual development.
Has applied strategic game planning that only builds teamwork and trust.
He's basically doing everything that changes the DNA of a team.

Very true Lauren,good factual review...The most important thing that I think Madge has definately got rid of is the backbiting and whiteanting that went on in this club...either player/coach or board/coach...this in itself creates stability....
 
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185579) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185562) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185553) said:
If and when we make the finals then upgrade, not before.

And if we don't make the 8 can you provide a list of coaches that are available that could

If we don’t make the 8 nothing has really changed.

So do we get a new coach
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185620) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185579) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185562) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185553) said:
If and when we make the finals then upgrade, not before.

And if we don't make the 8 can you provide a list of coaches that are available that could

If we don’t make the 8 nothing has really changed.

So do we get a new coach

If we don’t make the finals by the end of his contract then yes he is gone. The only KPI I am interested in is winning results. Failure to deliver on that is a failure.
 
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185648) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185620) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185579) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185562) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185553) said:
If and when we make the finals then upgrade, not before.

And if we don't make the 8 can you provide a list of coaches that are available that could

If we don’t make the 8 nothing has really changed.

So do we get a new coach

If we don’t make the finals by the end of his contract then yes he is gone. The only KPI I am interested in is winning results. Failure to deliver on that is a failure.

All a matter of personal opinion. For me it takes more than three years to rebuild a roster and shape it to exactly how you want it as a coach. He’s taking us in the right direction and we are a good shot at finals this year so let’s see how he goes. Tigers won’t be rushing to extend him I reckon
 
Some people on here want instant results ,if we dont make the finals its a failure etc etc...give Madge the chance to do his job,and understand that he came here,said he would change the culture,reshape the roster and get this team winning games....
He has to deal with the IC purchases,get Packer on the field and fit again,educate the young guys and sort out the non performers at this level...
Im more than happy with the way he is dealing with everything,the players respect him,he is starting to get them to play to defensive structures and some of the players are playing well above what was expected of them...
MADGE is by far the best coach we have had in recent years,it takes time to get a team like this into finals mode,you guys should have known after he benched Benji and Brooks that time for complacency is out the door....good on him for being a professional task master and not a yes man like others have been....
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185650) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185648) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185620) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185579) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185562) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185553) said:
If and when we make the finals then upgrade, not before.

And if we don't make the 8 can you provide a list of coaches that are available that could

If we don’t make the 8 nothing has really changed.

So do we get a new coach

If we don’t make the finals by the end of his contract then yes he is gone. The only KPI I am interested in is winning results. Failure to deliver on that is a failure.

All a matter of personal opinion. For me it takes more than three years to rebuild a roster and shape it to exactly how you want it as a coach. He’s taking us in the right direction and we are a good shot at finals this year so let’s see how he goes. Tigers won’t be rushing to extend him I reckon

Of course it is a matter of opinion. I have no direct influence over the club apart from my fan membership.

Madge can take us in any direction he likes, except cheating, as long as we are winning. What I didn’t say before and wasn’t asked was did I think Madge will get yes to the finals? Yes I do.

The Wests Tigers need to be ruthless and if it is working (winning) then yes contracts can be extended. If not winning then bye bye. For too long we have put up with poor results, always with excuses. I’m just as guilty as everyone on that count but no more.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185666) said:
Some people on here want instant results ,if we dont make the finals its a failure etc etc...give Madge the chance to do his job,and understand that he came here,said he would change the culture,reshape the roster and get this team winning games....
He has to deal with the IC purchases,get Packer on the field and fit again,educate the young guys and sort out the non performers at this level...
Im more than happy with the way he is dealing with everything,the players respect him,he is starting to get them to play to defensive structures and some of the players are playing well above what was expected of them...
MADGE is by far the best coach we have had in recent years,it takes time to get a team like this into finals mode,you guys should have known after he benched Benji and Brooks that time for complacency is out the door....good on him for being a professional task master and not a yes man like others have been....

Instant results? How long has it been since we had a final appearance?

My biggest disappointment since 2005 has been that both Ellis and Rowdy never got the premiership ring they deserved.
 
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185674) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185666) said:
Some people on here want instant results ,if we dont make the finals its a failure etc etc...give Madge the chance to do his job,and understand that he came here,said he would change the culture,reshape the roster and get this team winning games....
He has to deal with the IC purchases,get Packer on the field and fit again,educate the young guys and sort out the non performers at this level...
Im more than happy with the way he is dealing with everything,the players respect him,he is starting to get them to play to defensive structures and some of the players are playing well above what was expected of them...
MADGE is by far the best coach we have had in recent years,it takes time to get a team like this into finals mode,you guys should have known after he benched Benji and Brooks that time for complacency is out the door....good on him for being a professional task master and not a yes man like others have been....

Instant results? How long has it been since we had a final appearance?

My biggest disappointment since 2005 has been that both Ellis and Rowdy never got the premiership ring they deserved.

Mate we all have been weathering the drought dont worry...but we cant expect Madge to make up for the deficiencies of the past overnight....hang in there like the rest of us have....
 
I think people are also missing that since Voldemort did his dogshot coaches also can't be approached until November before the final year of there contract same as players...

Which means that Clubs looking now for 2021 ie Dogs Cowgirls probably soon the Donkeys can't approach coaches already contracted for 2021..sure they could wait but that a very short window when it comes to recruitment/retention of players for the season not having a coach locked in..
 
@TrueTiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185714) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185674) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185666) said:
Some people on here want instant results ,if we dont make the finals its a failure etc etc...give Madge the chance to do his job,and understand that he came here,said he would change the culture,reshape the roster and get this team winning games....
He has to deal with the IC purchases,get Packer on the field and fit again,educate the young guys and sort out the non performers at this level...
Im more than happy with the way he is dealing with everything,the players respect him,he is starting to get them to play to defensive structures and some of the players are playing well above what was expected of them...
MADGE is by far the best coach we have had in recent years,it takes time to get a team like this into finals mode,you guys should have known after he benched Benji and Brooks that time for complacency is out the door....good on him for being a professional task master and not a yes man like others have been....

Instant results? How long has it been since we had a final appearance?

My biggest disappointment since 2005 has been that both Ellis and Rowdy never got the premiership ring they deserved.

Mate we all have been weathering the drought dont worry...but we cant expect Madge to make up for the deficiencies of the past overnight....hang in there like the rest of us have....

He has until the end of 2021. If he can’t do it by then he’s not going to. No excuses next year.
 
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185731) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185714) said:
@mike said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185674) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1185666) said:
Some people on here want instant results ,if we dont make the finals its a failure etc etc...give Madge the chance to do his job,and understand that he came here,said he would change the culture,reshape the roster and get this team winning games....
He has to deal with the IC purchases,get Packer on the field and fit again,educate the young guys and sort out the non performers at this level...
Im more than happy with the way he is dealing with everything,the players respect him,he is starting to get them to play to defensive structures and some of the players are playing well above what was expected of them...
MADGE is by far the best coach we have had in recent years,it takes time to get a team like this into finals mode,you guys should have known after he benched Benji and Brooks that time for complacency is out the door....good on him for being a professional task master and not a yes man like others have been....

Instant results? How long has it been since we had a final appearance?

My biggest disappointment since 2005 has been that both Ellis and Rowdy never got the premiership ring they deserved.

Mate we all have been weathering the drought dont worry...but we cant expect Madge to make up for the deficiencies of the past overnight....hang in there like the rest of us have....

He has until the end of 2021. If he can’t do it by then he’s not going to. No excuses next year.

Maybe the board could see it otherwise even if he doesnt make the finals,they could take what he is doing as a positive for a long term success,not a short term bandaid to satisfy the whim of a few disgruntled fans,supporters or members..I would still pay my membership if we didnt make the finals and over time I could have pulled the pin on supporting them with some of the bizzare decisions this club has made..not making the finals for ages has peed me off no end,but when an opportunity like Madge comes along then I calm down and see hope on the horizon but thats just me and I know how fickle the NRL clubs can be when it comes to poor expediated decisions....
 
I'm not a fan of Maguire...havent seen enough improvement in his time here to extend him yet...problem is there's a distinct lack of quality coaches avaliable so unfortunately we're stuck with him
 
@Spacecub said in [Do we extend Madge now?](/post/1189462) said:
I'm not a fan of Maguire...havent seen enough improvement in his time here to extend him yet...problem is there's a distinct lack of quality coaches avaliable so unfortunately we're stuck with him

You're a hard task master
 

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