Manly Inclusive Pride jersey backlash

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Earl said:
This was one of my earlier suggestions for principled responses to this issue.

In stating that I am pretty sure that the Manly owner has stated he will go ahead with this next year and the players are now supportive. So it's not the NRL but the Manly owner.

I support his decision on this.
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Major issue I have is firstly it was done on women in league round just shows how the Manly employees who came up with this really didn't read the room.
Most importantly something that is hardly mentioned is that it was all instigated by the marketing department initially, I just have a hard time believing it was done to help any community and was just done as a p.r stunt to fill the grandstands and sell tickets, if that's the case then it just seems exploitative of the actual cause they are appearing to support. I could be totally wrong though.
 
Chicken_Faced_Killa said:
I’m pretty sure it’s in the rules that all players have to wear the same uniform. It’s only a minor difference in this instance but is a different jersey.
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Yeah I know just thought it was a way to diffuse the whole thing, but rules are rules unless your the Tigers, the other thing that irks me is noone is talking about how we got robbed bloody manly
 
liltiger said:
Major issue I have is firstly it was done on women in league round just shows how the Manly employees who came up with this really didn't read the room.
Most importantly something that is hardly mentioned is that it was all instigated by the marketing department initially, I just have a hard time believing it was done to help any community and was just done as a p.r stunt to fill the grandstands and sell tickets, if that's the case then it just seems exploitative of the actual cause they are appearing to support. I could be totally wrong though.
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You are not wrong, it was a stunt designed to entice queer fans and their supporters to the club, sell tickets and sell another jersey.
There was no F‘s given to the ramifications and if it wasn’t for Dessy throwing buckets of water onto the fire, it could have caused huge damage to his playing group.
 
liltiger said:
Yeah I know just thought it was a way to diffuse the whole thing, but rules are rules unless your the Tigers, the other thing that irks me is noone is talking about how we got robbed bloody manly
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I actually think it would have lit more of a fuse because it would have highlighted it even more having players wear different jerseys
 
stryker 69 said:
It is a stunt for a couple of reasons…
1. Scott Penn described what he thought was occurring was very different to what we ended up with.
2. Celebrities knew before the players did
3. It was launched on a round that was already devoted to a cause.
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And besides what, if they were fair dinkum they should change their name from Manly which sounds way too macho to something much more inclusive.
 
Chicken_Faced_Killa said:
I’m pretty sure it’s in the rules that all players have to wear the same uniform. It’s only a minor difference in this instance but is a different jersey.
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I know what you are saying but how did they allow Money Bill to wear a jersey that didn't have the gambling sponsorship on it?
 
CloudyGlock said:
Around 50% of NRL players are polynesian.

Every year the NRL celebrates the polynesian influence and culture within the game and currently polynesia is probably the greatest opportunity to grow the international game.

The NRL have done a good job of including "polynesian culture" and celebrating it and they welcome it, but the hard cold truth is what is happening at Manly IS polynesian culture. Anyone who really knows and understands real polynesian culture knows the role of religion and family in their culture. It is primary and not negotiable. It is also a particularly fundamental form of Christianity with particularly strict edicts on certain parts of the faith, and guess where this falls into?

So when the NRL, the clubs and fans "embrace" and "celebrate" polynesia culture, what are they celebrating? Just the sipi tau and haka? Floral garlands are OK? Some singing might be nice? Culture is what culture is and its not for others to cherry pick the best bits and say that is what it is. This IS polynesian culture.

I spend a lot of time in polynesia and working closely with polynesians, in POLYNESIA not western Sydney. Polynesian culture is a beautiful culture and genuinely worth celebrating, particularly its contribution to Rugby League, but you cant just embrace "bits" of it.

So then we get to what Manly is celebrating. Its all about inclusion, so that "ALL" know they are welcome and included. What does inclusion mean? Who are all? Is Polynesian culture included? Are those who adhere to it closely and fundamentally included?

Manly screwed the whole thing up by not including the players in the decision, but after that I think they have handled it as well as it can be.
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Sad that the missionaries were able to influence previously tolerant societies and then have them believe fairytales and unaccepting instead.
 
liltiger said:
I just have a hard time believing it was done to help any community and was just done as a p.r stunt to fill the grandstands and sell tickets, if that's the case then it just seems exploitative of the actual cause they are appearing to support. I could be totally wrong though.
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Yeah you definitely could be. Ian Roberts didn't seem too upset by the jersey.

Why can't something both be a cultural positive and sell tickets? Ideally that would always be the case.

You do realise of course that 98% of professional rugby league exists to "fill grandstands and sell tickets"?
 
jirskyr said:
Yeah you definitely could be. Ian Roberts didn't seem too upset by the jersey.

Why can't something both be a cultural positive and sell tickets? Ideally that would always be the case.

You do realise of course that 98% of professional rugby league exists to "fill grandstands and sell tickets"?
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Sometimes park football is the most enjoyable to watch and be a part of.
No politics, no agendas, just plain footy with passion, not much finesse or fitness, just old fassioned footy.
 
liltiger said:
Major issue I have is firstly it was done on women in league round just shows how the Manly employees who came up with this really didn't read the room.
Most importantly something that is hardly mentioned is that it was all instigated by the marketing department initially, I just have a hard time believing it was done to help any community and was just done as a p.r stunt to fill the grandstands and sell tickets, if that's the case then it just seems exploitative of the actual cause they are appearing to support. I could be totally wrong though.
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As an extension, SJWs are all marketing themselves rather than the cause. Be it climate change, First Nations, LGBT issues. Tend to be very loud so they are seen to support a cause rather than just getting in and making a difference themselves.

I have no idea what manly was thinking.
Aloali has form, he was vocal during the falou controversy. Was alway going to happen. I’ve written previously that maybe the people behind it wanted it to happen?
 
Earl said:
This was one of my earlier suggestions for principled responses to this issue.

In stating that I am pretty sure that the Manly owner has stated he will go ahead with this next year and the players are now supportive. So it's not the NRL but the Manly owner.

I support his decision on this.
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Ch9 News this morning reported that the spokesman for the seven players said there will be no backflips on their position. I believe the wording was we don't backflip on our religious beliefs.
 
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