@wt46 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320305) said:IN MADGE WE TRUST. Backing him 100%.
In Madge you trust and how long for
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@wt46 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320305) said:IN MADGE WE TRUST. Backing him 100%.
@tony-soprano said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320292) said:Our problem is coaching and recruitment I’d be having a good look at Flanagan if Madge fails this year.
@fraze23 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320267) said:It’s frustrating to watch other teams go on a spending spree over the offseason and turn things around in one year. I feel like we’ve been going around in circles trying to do the same thing for the last 10 years.
@cochise said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320319) said:@tony-soprano said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320292) said:Our problem is coaching and recruitment I’d be having a good look at Flanagan if Madge fails this year.
No thank you
@goanna57 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320312) said:@wt46 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320305) said:IN MADGE WE TRUST. Backing him 100%.
In Madge you trust and how long for
@goanna57 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320302) said:@needaname said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320289) said:@rugba said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320278) said:@fraze23 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320267) said:I honestly don't know that there is a coach out there that can turn this club around.
Failure and mediocrity seems to be a part of our fabric and I don't know who can change it, let alone how they would do it.
Each year I approach the season with optimism, this is the year the drought ends. And after our offseason recruiting drive the forum shared that optimism. I didn't expect us to beat the Raiders or the Roosters, but I genuinely didn't expect to see them give up so early in the year.
I feel sorry for Madge. He sees the bigger picture and what is wrong with the club, but for whatever reason he can't get the group to bring that to fruition on the field. In saying that neither could Cleary, Taylor, Potter or even Sheens consistently.
It's frustrating to watch other teams go on a spending spree over the offseason and turn things around in one year. I feel like we've been going around in circles trying to do the same thing for the last 10 years.
I don't know what it will take to fix us. Maybe Madge is the man for the job, maybe he isn't. But I don't think sacking him 2 games into a contract extension is smart business.
Actually , you right only because the coaching talent pool these days is pathetic (not player pool ) and I see McGuire as just another Bellamy clone
How do you expect a coaches who are clones of the top coaches to excel with inferior talent to the top sides .. they cannot
You need a coach that has different temperament, different philosophy and skill set to excel at the tigers .
Sheens won comp as was his own man
I see hoolbrook at titans , had varied Australian experience and did his own thing in England and you could see the titans improve as the season went on last year .
Holbrook was just interviewed on NRL 360. If things don’t work out with Madge that the style we need. Honestly though who found a guy like that, that thinks like that? Watching the Building Titans it appears it was Steve Mitchell and he even called one of his former players from the cowboys who was playing in the ESL under Holbrook and asked him his opinion of the coach. ‘Lachlan Coote’ BTW.
I’m not a Maguire fan never have been happy for him to go but it will achieve nothing to get rid of him right now. Need to wait till end of season I just can’t understand the rush to extend his contract
@goanna57 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320312) said:@wt46 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320305) said:IN MADGE WE TRUST. Backing him 100%.
In Madge you trust and how long for
@truetiger said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320359) said:@goanna57 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320302) said:@needaname said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320289) said:@rugba said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320278) said:@fraze23 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320267) said:I honestly don't know that there is a coach out there that can turn this club around.
Failure and mediocrity seems to be a part of our fabric and I don't know who can change it, let alone how they would do it.
Each year I approach the season with optimism, this is the year the drought ends. And after our offseason recruiting drive the forum shared that optimism. I didn't expect us to beat the Raiders or the Roosters, but I genuinely didn't expect to see them give up so early in the year.
I feel sorry for Madge. He sees the bigger picture and what is wrong with the club, but for whatever reason he can't get the group to bring that to fruition on the field. In saying that neither could Cleary, Taylor, Potter or even Sheens consistently.
It's frustrating to watch other teams go on a spending spree over the offseason and turn things around in one year. I feel like we've been going around in circles trying to do the same thing for the last 10 years.
I don't know what it will take to fix us. Maybe Madge is the man for the job, maybe he isn't. But I don't think sacking him 2 games into a contract extension is smart business.
Actually , you right only because the coaching talent pool these days is pathetic (not player pool ) and I see McGuire as just another Bellamy clone
How do you expect a coaches who are clones of the top coaches to excel with inferior talent to the top sides .. they cannot
You need a coach that has different temperament, different philosophy and skill set to excel at the tigers .
Sheens won comp as was his own man
I see hoolbrook at titans , had varied Australian experience and did his own thing in England and you could see the titans improve as the season went on last year .
Holbrook was just interviewed on NRL 360. If things don’t work out with Madge that the style we need. Honestly though who found a guy like that, that thinks like that? Watching the Building Titans it appears it was Steve Mitchell and he even called one of his former players from the cowboys who was playing in the ESL under Holbrook and asked him his opinion of the coach. ‘Lachlan Coote’ BTW.
I’m not a Maguire fan never have been happy for him to go but it will achieve nothing to get rid of him right now. Need to wait till end of season I just can’t understand the rush to extend his contract
They extended him because he is TRYING to change the horrible culture that has infected this club for so long...He has dismantled the boys club and solidified the work ethic within the team...obviously they arent GOOD ENOUGH to play in the big arena and cant handle the heat...
He also has put the young players pathway back into the interest of the club...we need juniors coming through our system regularly and Madge has also been involved in recruiting young talent for us...
A few bad days and results are going to happen and I have said many times before,when posting on the forum and having a conversation on a particular topic "you have to keep personal dislike for that person out of the conversation"the club extended him for a reason,we have to have confidence in their decision as we dont have the opportunity to sit in the front office and over hear the conversations ...
@leck said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320369) said:@truetiger said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320359) said:@goanna57 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320302) said:@needaname said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320289) said:@rugba said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320278) said:@fraze23 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320267) said:I honestly don't know that there is a coach out there that can turn this club around.
Failure and mediocrity seems to be a part of our fabric and I don't know who can change it, let alone how they would do it.
Each year I approach the season with optimism, this is the year the drought ends. And after our offseason recruiting drive the forum shared that optimism. I didn't expect us to beat the Raiders or the Roosters, but I genuinely didn't expect to see them give up so early in the year.
I feel sorry for Madge. He sees the bigger picture and what is wrong with the club, but for whatever reason he can't get the group to bring that to fruition on the field. In saying that neither could Cleary, Taylor, Potter or even Sheens consistently.
It's frustrating to watch other teams go on a spending spree over the offseason and turn things around in one year. I feel like we've been going around in circles trying to do the same thing for the last 10 years.
I don't know what it will take to fix us. Maybe Madge is the man for the job, maybe he isn't. But I don't think sacking him 2 games into a contract extension is smart business.
Actually , you right only because the coaching talent pool these days is pathetic (not player pool ) and I see McGuire as just another Bellamy clone
How do you expect a coaches who are clones of the top coaches to excel with inferior talent to the top sides .. they cannot
You need a coach that has different temperament, different philosophy and skill set to excel at the tigers .
Sheens won comp as was his own man
I see hoolbrook at titans , had varied Australian experience and did his own thing in England and you could see the titans improve as the season went on last year .
Holbrook was just interviewed on NRL 360. If things don’t work out with Madge that the style we need. Honestly though who found a guy like that, that thinks like that? Watching the Building Titans it appears it was Steve Mitchell and he even called one of his former players from the cowboys who was playing in the ESL under Holbrook and asked him his opinion of the coach. ‘Lachlan Coote’ BTW.
I’m not a Maguire fan never have been happy for him to go but it will achieve nothing to get rid of him right now. Need to wait till end of season I just can’t understand the rush to extend his contract
They extended him because he is TRYING to change the horrible culture that has infected this club for so long...He has dismantled the boys club and solidified the work ethic within the team...obviously they arent GOOD ENOUGH to play in the big arena and cant handle the heat...
He also has put the young players pathway back into the interest of the club...we need juniors coming through our system regularly and Madge has also been involved in recruiting young talent for us...
A few bad days and results are going to happen and I have said many times before,when posting on the forum and having a conversation on a particular topic "you have to keep personal dislike for that person out of the conversation"the club extended him for a reason,we have to have confidence in their decision as we dont have the opportunity to sit in the front office and over hear the conversations ...
I can’t deny Madge’s good intentions, however his coaching process isn’t working and hasn’t over the last couple of years.
@jc99 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320380) said:This is a dumb thread. He just signed a contract, the club clearly believes in him, he's going no where this season. Let's wait and see how we are going 3/4 through the season, not after two weeks.
@leck said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320387) said:@jc99 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320380) said:This is a dumb thread. He just signed a contract, the club clearly believes in him, he's going no where this season. Let's wait and see how we are going 3/4 through the season, not after two weeks.
Maybe in your opinion but the Tigers should have considered Demetriou when we had a chance in 2018.
Old boy that rose threw the ranks and gets our club.
Madge doesn’t.
@jc99 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320390) said:@leck said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320387) said:@jc99 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320380) said:This is a dumb thread. He just signed a contract, the club clearly believes in him, he's going no where this season. Let's wait and see how we are going 3/4 through the season, not after two weeks.
Maybe in your opinion but the Tigers should have considered Demetriou when we had a chance in 2018.
Old boy that rose threw the ranks and gets our club.
Madge doesn’t.
Shoulda woulda coulda. Madge was the best option at the time for sure.
@leck said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320392) said:@jc99 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320390) said:@leck said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320387) said:@jc99 said in [Madge needs to go](/post/1320380) said:This is a dumb thread. He just signed a contract, the club clearly believes in him, he's going no where this season. Let's wait and see how we are going 3/4 through the season, not after two weeks.
Maybe in your opinion but the Tigers should have considered Demetriou when we had a chance in 2018.
Old boy that rose threw the ranks and gets our club.
Madge doesn’t.
Shoulda woulda coulda. Madge was the best option at the time for sure.
Time is already telling. We’ll see.