Mitchell Moses Suspension Thread

@spearby said:
in the heat of battle I would think worse than that would be said are we be coming a team of soft c**ks the game will be played in skirts, give us a break 😛ray: 😛ray:

What's soft about outlawing homophobic slurs? What's tough about calling someone a gay c***?

Is it soft to outlaw racial slurs? Is it tough to call someone a black c***?

I can't believe anyone is objecting to establishing that homophobic slurs are unwelcome on the field. Do you seriously think it's a negative to esnure players stop using the word gay in a derogatory fashion? What planet are you from?
 
@Bazzinator said:
Moses banned for two games for homophobic slur
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Wests Tigers and NSW Under-20s player Mitchell Moses has been banned for two games by the NRL for making a homophobic remark during Saturday's State of Origin match against Queensland.

Wests Tigers and NSW Under-20s player Mitchell Moses has been banned for two games by the NRL for making a homophobic remark during Saturday's State of Origin match against Queensland. Credit: Col Whelan Copyright: NRL Photos
The NRL has suspended Wests Tigers and NSW Under-20s player Mitchell Moses for two games for breaching the League’s anti-vilification policy with comments made during Saturday night’s State of Origin match at Sportingbet Stadium.

The league reported that Moses, 19, visited Rugby League Central on Monday morning to apologise for the offensive remark. Mitchell also apologised to the Queensland player involved, Canberra's Luke Bateman.

NRL Head of Football Todd Greenberg said Moses would also be required to undergo an anti-vilification education and awareness program as part of driving an inclusive sporting culture.

“The NRL has consistently made it clear that there is no place for any form of discrimination in our game and we will take firm action if it occurs,” he said.

“The player has accepted responsibility and apologised for his comments, which was taken into consideration in determining the penalty.

“After careful assessment, we have decided to issue the player with a two-match suspension.

“We will also require him to participate in a program to improve his awareness and understanding of the importance of eliminating discrimination, particularly homophobia, in the game.”

Mr Greenberg said all players should understand that they are role models for Rugby League.

“Our young players need to demonstrate they not only have great skill on the field but also have the right value set. This is part of being involved in and progressing Rugby League, which is a game for everyone.”

The NRL Match Review Committee reviewed the incident and recommended that the NRL act under the existing Anti-Vilification Code.

The NRL is currently canvassing advice on appropriate programs that are aimed at creating inclusive sporting cultures and eliminating homophobia in sport.

The _REAL_ issue here is that it was heard on TV, thus forcing the NRL to "_do something about it"._.. If we mic'd up the players from all of the games every round…we'd have no players left for the following round...the notion of what happens on the field stays on the field is fast disappearing....I'm certain most if not all 20yo's today are NOT homophobic....Moses included!...
 
I hope Mitchell learns from this…These types of comments simply cannot be made in today's society.
 
@happy tiger said:
Fair enough in my opinion

They have put a line in the sand

Lets see what happens when a player of the Farah ,Inglis ,Gallen, DCE stature does it though

From today's SMH "A precedent for dealing with such cases was set by the NRL in 2009 when current NSW Origin skipper Paul Gallen was fined $10,000 and stripped of the Cronulla captaincy for racially abusing St George Illawarra prop Mickey Paea."

I suspect it would be worse today.

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@littletiger said:
Wow. Punching on, getting sent off twice, gay slurs. Full on guy.

Now I know why you are called little tiger you goose. He got sin binned once after chasing down opposition winger & saving certain try by knocking the ball out of his hands & the second time for trying to protect himself against a guy twice his size. Showed guts & committed to his team, more than I can say for you little tiger.
 
@TimmyB said:
@tigertye said:
It wasn't the nicest comment but seriously people need to harden up. I'm positive a lot worse is said on a footy field than "you're a FGC." It's funny how no one had a problem with everyone at Leichardt screaming "Birdy's a wanker" yet they get up in arms everytime someone calls someone gay or a fag. People need to get off their high horse and get over it. Most people have sworn or said the wrong thing in their life, so move on.

I've got a gay mate and we all say the word gay and sometimes worse on a night out jokingly around him, or to him and he doesn't care less, he knows we don't care about his gender choices, but we just respect the bloke for the good he does. My partners uncle is gay as well, and he's exactly the same. If he was in a blue and it someone said it with intent then it would fire him up, but if it was just mates joking around he couldn't give a rats.

If the guy who was called a FGC, is actually gay and taken offence, maybe the comment backfired and was said in the heat of the moment. A simple personal apology should suffice.

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1) There is nothing 'hard' about using gay as an insult. There is nothing 'soft' about setting a clear line in the sand that homophobic slurs are unacceptable on the rugby league field.
2) There is a world of difference between in house jokes and comments that are broadcast to the public. Ask your mate what he thinks of 'gay' and 'homo' being tossed around as insults in the public domain. If he has no problems with it, then that's great for him. He clearly feels accepted by the community and comfortable in his sexuality. It is completely different for a teenager who is grappling with his/her sexual orientation. What do you think they feel when they hear a comment tossed around like that on the football field? Unwelcome comes to mind.
3) It has absolutely nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the individual the comment was directed at. Using the term as an insult implies there is something wrong with being homosexual. I doubt Moses believes that, but what he believes is irrelevant. It conveys that message. It conveys a message that gay men and women are not welcome in the game. What would your response be if someone called a Polynesian player an 'ab* c***'? Sure the player is not Aboriginal but it's still a highly offensive and derogates the Aboriginal community.
4) Equating wanker with a homophobic slur is shockingly stupid. As in incredible. What group of people does that marginalise? Just extraordinary you would try and equate the two and shows you have absolutely no understanding of the issue at hand.

I feel for Moses because I'm sure it is common on the field, and the fact he said it does not mean he is homophobic or has character flaws. I'm extremely happy the NRL has established a precedent. Homophobic slurs should be treated exactly the same as racist slurs. Completely unacceptable.

To those who claim it is a PR thing, I think that is an oversimplification. Or at least I hope that is an oversimplification. I would like to think the reason the game is cracking down on it is because it is offensive to a segment of the population and is no longer acceptable in Rugby League.

My comment re: wanker was in jest TimmyB. I couldn't care less that the NRL are taking action. Moses was stupid enough to get caught saying it, he ought to face the music for his actions/words.

My comments were a dig at the circus and hyperbole that a topic like this creates, rather than the topic itself.
 
lol I call my south indian friend "n****r" all the time. he loves that name. drake and lil wayne have made millions of dollar with that word. a non black person says "[Racist or culturally insensitive words are automatically censored]" and it's the end of the world. a white person gets called white billions of times but you call a coloured person black - a fight erupts.

my gay friend calls me gay c*** ten times a day. this is such a massive over-reaction. sledging is part of every game. there is nothing derogatory, discriminative or offensive in those terms. hope the next person to say "you run slower than your grandma" gets cited for being offensive to the person's grandma.
 
@tig_prmz said:
oh and we can't use the term [This word has been automatically removed] anymore either right?

Unless your mates look like a bundle of sticks, I'd wager that it'd be considered distasteful.
 
Because of the lack of NRL action over the weekend because of the rep matches the journos who earn their living by reporting on the game were lost for a headline until Mitchell's inappropriate comment was made but if you look into the reasons why he made the comment it all should be taken in context.
I've seen the incident via a Newscorp WEBSITE and there seemed to be no reason at all for Bateman to straddle Moses while he played the ball, the kid is just a teen who made comment, should he have called him an !@#hole instead, probably and there would be nothing more heard about it.
Meanwhile in breaking news a Warriors player is in strife for being the recipient of a mutual heterosexual act, this is going to be bigger news than a teenager calling a Queenslander a f%^ken #$% ^&&*!.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@TimmyB said:
@tigertye said:
It wasn't the nicest comment but seriously people need to harden up. I'm positive a lot worse is said on a footy field than "you're a FGC." It's funny how no one had a problem with everyone at Leichardt screaming "Birdy's a wanker" yet they get up in arms everytime someone calls someone gay or a fag. People need to get off their high horse and get over it. Most people have sworn or said the wrong thing in their life, so move on.

I've got a gay mate and we all say the word gay and sometimes worse on a night out jokingly around him, or to him and he doesn't care less, he knows we don't care about his gender choices, but we just respect the bloke for the good he does. My partners uncle is gay as well, and he's exactly the same. If he was in a blue and it someone said it with intent then it would fire him up, but if it was just mates joking around he couldn't give a rats.

If the guy who was called a FGC, is actually gay and taken offence, maybe the comment backfired and was said in the heat of the moment. A simple personal apology should suffice.

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1) There is nothing 'hard' about using gay as an insult. There is nothing 'soft' about setting a clear line in the sand that homophobic slurs are unacceptable on the rugby league field.
2) There is a world of difference between in house jokes and comments that are broadcast to the public. Ask your mate what he thinks of 'gay' and 'homo' being tossed around as insults in the public domain. If he has no problems with it, then that's great for him. He clearly feels accepted by the community and comfortable in his sexuality. It is completely different for a teenager who is grappling with his/her sexual orientation. What do you think they feel when they hear a comment tossed around like that on the football field? Unwelcome comes to mind.
3) It has absolutely nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the individual the comment was directed at. Using the term as an insult implies there is something wrong with being homosexual. I doubt Moses believes that, but what he believes is irrelevant. It conveys that message. It conveys a message that gay men and women are not welcome in the game. What would your response be if someone called a Polynesian player an 'ab* c***'? Sure the player is not Aboriginal but it's still a highly offensive and derogates the Aboriginal community.
4) Equating wanker with a homophobic slur is shockingly stupid. As in incredible. What group of people does that marginalise? Just extraordinary you would try and equate the two and shows you have absolutely no understanding of the issue at hand.

I feel for Moses because I'm sure it is common on the field, and the fact he said it does not mean he is homophobic or has character flaws. I'm extremely happy the NRL has established a precedent. Homophobic slurs should be treated exactly the same as racist slurs. Completely unacceptable.

To those who claim it is a PR thing, I think that is an oversimplification. Or at least I hope that is an oversimplification. I would like to think the reason the game is cracking down on it is because it is offensive to a segment of the population and is no longer acceptable in Rugby League.

My comment re: wanker was in jest TimmyB. I couldn't care less that the NRL are taking action. Moses was stupid enough to get caught saying it, he ought to face the music for his actions/words.

My comments were a dig at the circus and hyperbole that a topic like this creates, rather than the topic itself.

That's why I quoted Tigertye who seemed to actually be equating the two :wink:
 
political correctness gone mad…. what an absolute joke...
next someone's going to be banned for calling someone a w*nker.
 
By Laine Clark, AAP

Updated May 5, 2014, 5:50 pm

Queensland Rugby League boss Peter Betros on Monday spoke with the NRL to question the under 20s State of Origin concept after a controversial interstate clash that resulted in a player being banned for a homophobic slur heard on live TV.

NSW under 20s halfback Mitchell Moses of Wests Tigers copped a two game suspension for breaching the league's anti-vilification policy during the spiteful 30-8 win over Queensland at Penrith on Saturday night.

The NRL launched an investigation after the referee's on-field microphone picked up Moses calling Queensland lock Luke Bateman a "f***ing gay c***".

Barely a month ago the NRL joined the AFL, FFA, ARU and Cricket Australia to take a stand against homophobia and other forms of discrimination by launching a new diversity and inclusion policy.

Moses was banned despite arriving at Sydney's Rugby League Central office on Monday morning to apologise and also saying sorry to Bateman.

"The NRL has consistently made it clear that there is no place for any form of discrimination in our game and we will take firm action if it occurs," NRL head of football Todd Greenberg said.

Moses will also undergo an anti-vilification education and awareness program.

His NSW teammate Matt Lodge faces up to four weeks on the sidelines after being slapped with a grade three detrimental conduct charge for writing "c***" on his wristband that was visible during the TV coverage
 
I was at the Sydney test match against the Poms in January, and our bay of the stadium started singing a song that had the "F" word in it. A cop at the front of the bay yelled out for everyone to not swear or they would be thrown out. Within a few seconds, the bays either side of us started singing the same song. What was he gonna do, kick out three or four bays worth of people? Same goes for the NRL. If they want to set this precedent, everyone one the field who now makes these calls needs to be booted, not just those that get caught on the TV mics
 
_This is why Brooks was pulled out of that game, we now have Anasta and Moses on the sidelines for the next two weeks. Any injuries to our halves this game and we have no first grade standard halves to play the next week.\
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Moses has been suspended for 2 weeks for calling someone a "g** c****" during the Origin game. How is that worth a suspension? I thought it was Bateman that made the comment and thought he should be left off._
 

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