Mitchell Moses

[stevetiger]

I reckon Moses gets the 6 role a.s.a.p. I think tedesco will stay and Koro will be a great replacement for Richards when he retires.

 

[Tigersman]

Moses still needs 1-2 more years in Reserve grade…He is still to small.

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

Nothing wrong with the notion that a player should serve his dues in the lower grades just like the old days but this is 2014 and if you drop a player they want an instant release, our young players are spoilt for choice these days, if you don't pick me then I'm either off to another club, Super 15 or to England or French Rugby!.

 

[tsjonathan]

Mitch is not injury prone. He got injured last year and missed a game this year.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Holy Cross combo #6 Moses and #7 Brooks. Some rate Mitch higher than Brooks.

Very exciting times ahead

 

[stevil]

Why would you even think of switching players around if teddy leaves?
We have another fullback waiting to hit first grade in Rowe. I say if teddy goes we go back to making this year a building year. Bring Rowe up to first grade and have him learning for next year when Moses joins the ranks full time

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[sunshine_coast_tiger]

Nofo to fullback and teach Koro to defend so he can go back to the wing - simple

Other options that don;t require stuffing up our future 5/8 option are Rowe to 1 or Big T at wing with Nofo at 1.

Left field option - if Lawry can get his hamstring right he actually might be ok at 1.

You can't just "teach Koro to defend" and It's certainly not simple.

You can teach someone tackling technique, but that's not where his problem lies.
You cant teach someone instinct or give them the ability to read the opposition, which IS where the problem lies.

Two images of Koro are stuck into my brain that will never be removed.

Him back-pedalling away from the attack over our try line with absolutely no Idea of where he was on the field, allowing the attacker to simply place the ball down.

Or as he did on numerous occasions last year, letting his man get past him knowing the only way he could stop them was to run them down from behind.

Truthfully I would rather never see him in Tigers gear again. I dont think he has a prolonged first grade career in his future.

Completely disagree with that. If we let him go he WILL play against us in the NRL and he WILL score numerous tries for the other team (my money's on sharks).

sure, you cant turn him into a defensive behemoth like Morris but you can make him a solid defender and he is getting there. He defended fine vs the dragons, lulia missed 2 KEY tackles. Koro did the right thing by not jamming in on him and letting him pass to the wing for an easy try.

Nofo, Teddy and Koro are my back 3 in 2 years time.

I still think Koro has the 2 attributes that you can't coach. He has blistering pace and no fear. It is not that he can't tackle he gets in bad positions you can work on that. He is an NRL level winger and with the right coaching could be very good at that level.

 

[Goose]

Moses looks like he has the attributes to be a good fullback, I think I would leave him at 6 and give Rowe a crack in the event we lost Tedessco

 

[Majere77]

Nofo to fullback and teach Koro to defend so he can go back to the wing - simple

Other options that don;t require stuffing up our future 5/8 option are Rowe to 1 or Big T at wing with Nofo at 1.

Left field option - if Lawry can get his hamstring right he actually might be ok at 1.

You can't just "teach Koro to defend" and It's certainly not simple.

You can teach someone tackling technique, but that's not where his problem lies.
You cant teach someone instinct or give them the ability to read the opposition, which IS where the problem lies.

Two images of Koro are stuck into my brain that will never be removed.

Him back-pedalling away from the attack over our try line with absolutely no Idea of where he was on the field, allowing the attacker to simply place the ball down.

Or as he did on numerous occasions last year, letting his man get past him knowing the only way he could stop them was to run them down from behind.

Truthfully I would rather never see him in Tigers gear again. I dont think he has a prolonged first grade career in his future.

Completely disagree with that. If we let him go he WILL play against us in the NRL and he WILL score numerous tries for the other team (my money's on sharks).

sure, you cant turn him into a defensive behemoth like Morris but you can make him a solid defender and he is getting there. He defended fine vs the dragons, lulia missed 2 KEY tackles. Koro did the right thing by not jamming in on him and letting him pass to the wing for an easy try.

Nofo, Teddy and Koro are my back 3 in 2 years time.

Had absolutely NOTHING to do with lulia. absolutely NOTHING.

All on Koro.

I'll make a little bet with you that he's not even in the NRL in two years time…..

I'm not 100% sure.... but I'm almost positive you were the guy that argued with me that Koro was **"the greatest attacking weapon in the NRL"** after a few games last year"

I laughed at you then and trust me it's gotten funnier.

But the best part of it was I knew from then on just to ignore you.

And you can take him out of your avatar now. The embarrassment will be minimal.

 

[pHyR3]

all on Koro, did koro miss those two tackles…? musta missed that.

what should koro have done in those two tries vs the dragons (im sure you know which ones im refering too but i'll point em out if you need)

i'll take you up on that bet haha, koro will most definitely be playing in 2 years barring injury or something like that.

 

[tsjonathan]

Nofo to fullback and teach Koro to defend so he can go back to the wing - simple

Other options that don;t require stuffing up our future 5/8 option are Rowe to 1 or Big T at wing with Nofo at 1.

Left field option - if Lawry can get his hamstring right he actually might be ok at 1.

You can't just "teach Koro to defend" and It's certainly not simple.

You can teach someone tackling technique, but that's not where his problem lies.
You cant teach someone instinct or give them the ability to read the opposition, which IS where the problem lies.

Two images of Koro are stuck into my brain that will never be removed.

Him back-pedalling away from the attack over our try line with absolutely no Idea of where he was on the field, allowing the attacker to simply place the ball down.

Or as he did on numerous occasions last year, letting his man get past him knowing the only way he could stop them was to run them down from behind.

Truthfully I would rather never see him in Tigers gear again. I dont think he has a prolonged first grade career in his future.

Completely disagree with that. If we let him go he WILL play against us in the NRL and he WILL score numerous tries for the other team (my money's on sharks).

sure, you cant turn him into a defensive behemoth like Morris but you can make him a solid defender and he is getting there. He defended fine vs the dragons, lulia missed 2 KEY tackles. Koro did the right thing by not jamming in on him and letting him pass to the wing for an easy try.

Nofo, Teddy and Koro are my back 3 in 2 years time.

Had absolutely NOTHING to do with lulia. absolutely NOTHING.

All on Koro.

I'll make a little bet with you that he's not even in the NRL in two years time…..

I'm not 100% sure.... but I'm almost positive you were the guy that argued with me that Koro was **"the greatest attacking weapon in the NRL"** after a few games last year"

I laughed at you then and trust me it's gotten funnier.

But the best part of it was I knew from then on just to ignore you.

And you can take him out of your avatar now. The embarrassment will be minimal.

Gee man relax…

 

[Tim Sheens]

Majere, whilst I agree that poor Koro has no idea what he should do when confronted, there is no need for the attitude directed at a fellow forum member.

 

[pHyR3]

also, if you look at when i joined it was about 5 months after koro's debut so no that wasn't me saying he was the greatest attacking weapon ever after a few games

i thought we were talking about his defence anyway but whatever

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

Majere, whilst I agree that poor Koro has no idea what he should do when confronted, there is no need for the attitude directed at a fellow forum member.

Getting back to the topic I am not sure if Mitchell Moses is better than Luke Brooks, I just know every time I have seen them play together they form an awesome combination.

I don't understand the hatred for Koro on this forum. He seems like such a quiet person off the field. From my understanding he has only been playing league seriously for about 3-4 years. Yes he has problems in defence especially in his positional play. He also has speed and no fear, something you can't teach. The first time I saw him in the 20s I thought there was massive potential there. I think as long as he works on aspects of his game he will still be in the NRL in 2 years maybe not with us but with someone.

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[innsaneink]

Defence can be taught….and he has the benefit of someone outside him he can rely on 100% every game, will never let him down

He needs time

 

[stevetiger]

I don't understand the hatred for Koro on this forum.

I don't get why peeps are stating he can't defend. Any try scored anywhere near him is assumed to be his fault. I don't see that as true at all. From what I have seen this year the tries scored on his wing were not when he had a one on one opportunity to tackle his man which means that is wasn't just his fault.

 

[coventry_bear]

I reckon we'll see Moses in first grade by the back end of the season. Give him a taste off the bench for 15-20 mins towards the end of games.
Round 20 prediction
1\. Tedesco
6\. Austin
7\. Brooks
14\. Moses
Reserve grade - Anasta

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

I don't understand the hatred for Koro on this forum.

I don't get why peeps are stating he can't defend. Any try scored anywhere near him is assumed to be his fault. I don't see that as true at all. From what I have seen this year the tries scored on his wing were not when he had a one on one opportunity to tackle his man which means that is wasn't just his fault.

This point was further highlighted on friday night as Souths made breaks down the wings of our right side defence at will in the first half.I think lulia has a lot of the blame aswell.

 

[balmain boy]

Moses is bigger than Hodgo ever was. Looks around mid 80kgs, which is a big improvement on last year. Another few months injury free and hopefully he can get up towards the high 80's.

He's also played a lot of fullback over the years so there's no problem shifting him back there. And fullbacks are both ball players and runners these days so he'd be a much better option than nofo (who's ball playing skills are a lot more limited).

Rowe's a handy backup but i doubt he'll ever see much first grade.

 

[tig_prmz]

To those saying nofo has limited ball skills- IMO he has that slight of hand that a fullback needs to have as the third man.

I remember once he ran across field from DH and did a no look pass onto Blair against the titans this year- he's done that a couple of other times last year as well. I'm not saying he is a disguised play maker but I do think his passing game is undermined mainly coz he plays wing. The only worrying part for me is his lack of pace/accelearation and maybe short kicking game. I would actually rate him a better defensive prospect than tedesco.

I'm sure Moses has a lot of guts coz if he has to play fullback as a lighter frame than usual than you need to be tougher than a block of cement.

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[happy_tiger]

I don't understand the hatred for Koro on this forum.

I don't get why peeps are stating he can't defend. Any try scored anywhere near him is assumed to be his fault. I don't see that as true at all. From what I have seen this year the tries scored on his wing were not when he had a one on one opportunity to tackle his man which means that is wasn't just his fault.

This point was further highlighted on friday night as Souths made breaks down the wings of our right side defence at will in the first half.I think lulia has a lot of the blame aswell.

Koroibete basically has no idea when he should be doing positionally ,that's the problem

If you look at the two tries scored on his wing by the Saints , he is defending basically in the in goal he takes no one and is in total confusion

He needs to do something , whether it is rush up , staying on his man ,crushing the centre

If he makes the wrong call when the opposition has numbers you can live with that but not doing anything is just criminal

Whether the penalties he gave away when he was having issues getting penalized for shoulder charges has confused him I don't know but I prefer our current combination defensively and someone needs to do heaps of work with Koroibete defensively