Moltzen starting half
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biggest_tigers_fan
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moltzen needs time in state cup to get his speed and timing back.He's to good of a player to be in the wilderness to long and he's too much of a confidence player to keep playing like a busted
tig_prmz
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@biggest tigers fan said:
Too late for that IMO.
AmericanHistoryX
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i havent read this thread yet - but this guy is still recovering. he needs more time. i'm talking 2012\. In the meantime…..
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@AmericanHistoryX said:
That's the thing, there were a couple of times today when the Tigers had the Storm backpeddling, one particular time in the second half where Moltzen had the ball at 5/8 and there was a bit of a gap that had opened up, but he passed instead…I reckon the Moltzen of 2009 would have thrown a neat dummy, straightened his line and gone through to possibly score. Who knows what position he is training in during the week, but he's not looking settled in any one position he plays in at the moment and that is a problem.
Lui looks to have more options with the ball in hand, but his defence was again poor today, despite being relegated to the bench because his defence is so weak at the moment.
@willow said:
This annoyed me too. He isn't playing with that speed that he used to have. On top of that he is making dumb plays. Benji might pass it to the ground 10 times today but he also sets up tries and breaks as easy as anything. Moltzen had a good chance and didn't take it.
@willow said:
I'm doubting Lui more and more as well.
tiger_tigers
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hey what about the greatest fotballer in the world… shouldnt he take the line on and have a run occasionly...
I got to be honest I don't think think i have disliked a player as much since Daniel Fitzhenry. Might be a bad way of putting things. However I just hate the petulance and lack of 1% er's in his game. Last week a petulent push against the Warriors costs us. THis week a ball goes behind him and hits the deck and he stands there and slumps his shoulders. Sum of his efforts at saving tries, just pushing players, not putting the shoulder in.
Honestly these sorts of things are part and parcel of being a professional footballer. He just doesn't do it well enough. I really get annoyed with it, because you don't mind if a player goes poorly if he is constantly ripping in and being professional. Moltzen has petulance in his game for mine and puts his body on the line most the time.
Honestly these sorts of things are part and parcel of being a professional footballer. He just doesn't do it well enough. I really get annoyed with it, because you don't mind if a player goes poorly if he is constantly ripping in and being professional. Moltzen has petulance in his game for mine and puts his body on the line most the time.
Tragic_Tiger_Fan
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I will keep it simple, Moltzen is currently not up to first grade standard!
Tiger_Watto
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@Kul said:
Obviously doesn't take much to please the hill… J Mo at 7 looked like SOO material compared to Timmy Choo Shoes Moltzen today. I was happy to wait for him to find some confidence, but after today, I'm not sure he will ever get back... What as gone on with this kid?!
happy_tiger
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I don't know what the thinking was with playing Moltzen at half back but was a failure in attack anyway . No confidence at all . What will happen next week with no Benji ??
hybrid_tiger
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He was overhyped because we won a few games when he was wearing the #7 jersey after putting up with John Morris for three years. If people watched closely they would realize he has barely no attributes that a quality halfback should have. The only thing he has is speed. No organisional skills, no kicking game.
As much as I love the kid, It's getting Harder and harder to like what he does on the field.
Moltzen 2009 is miles better than Moltzen 2011 - He looks like a shadow of his former self, and like people are saying, he is actually BUTCHERING tries, not creating them.
Moltzen 2009 used to smile, and rev himself up.
Moltzen 2011 is always pouting when the camera is on him.
It's not looking good.
Moltzen 2009 is miles better than Moltzen 2011 - He looks like a shadow of his former self, and like people are saying, he is actually BUTCHERING tries, not creating them.
Moltzen 2009 used to smile, and rev himself up.
Moltzen 2011 is always pouting when the camera is on him.
It's not looking good.
happy_tiger
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@underdog said:
Maybe its time to release him and start trying the new talent through My worry is when do we say enough is enough . We can't persist until the end of next season . If he is fulllback next season and plays like this this we will finish 12th or worse in my opinion Clubs will kill us bombs and pressure
@hybrid_tiger said:
He is a good ball runner with few ball skills and zero organization skills and he consistently comes up with poor options.As a 7 he has nothing. I couldnt believe it when he deliberately kicked the ball dead yesterday with 2 mins to go and we where 8 points behind.
He needs a lengthy spell in reggies if he is going to salvage his career at the moment he is not first grade standard
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jadtiger I'm with you..but the problem isn't who you drop down it's who you bring up..I think miller is still a bit off frst grade..hopefully moltzen picks up quickly though..I'd like to think that him starting at halfback was a boost of confidence for him..
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It was a strange one.
Ellis seemed highly frustrated as he was running lines and Moltzen just wasn't looking at him at times and gave to much ball to players with nowhere to go.
I also fail to understand why we switch from where Lui plays predominatly right with Benji controlling the left to the opposite when Moltz is chosen. I think our attack was lacking cohesion because it turned on its head from how we have palyed all year. It just doesn't make any sense to do this unless Moltz cant pass from left to right properly
Ellis seemed highly frustrated as he was running lines and Moltzen just wasn't looking at him at times and gave to much ball to players with nowhere to go.
I also fail to understand why we switch from where Lui plays predominatly right with Benji controlling the left to the opposite when Moltz is chosen. I think our attack was lacking cohesion because it turned on its head from how we have palyed all year. It just doesn't make any sense to do this unless Moltz cant pass from left to right properly
Gary_Bakerloo
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@willow said:
I know the instance you are talking about and he should have run through the gap instead of passing to Ellis. However this comes back to injury and his lack of stability in his position.
When coming back from injury, you can't do everything all at once. You generally focus on one part of your game, get it sorted and then move onto the next. It looked to me yesterday that given he was the half, he focused on defence (which was reasonable) and his distribution which was also solid. Ordinarily, you would let him continue to play half back week in week out and his complete game would return much quicker, but we can't seem to do that. His running game is his strength and edge over Lui, but the running game will be the last facet of his game to return because it requires the highest level of confidence both to take on the line and over ride calls from Farah and Marshall.
Some of you may remember Prince in early 2004\. He was returning from his second broken leg and he took some time before he started taking on the line. He focused on distribution, organisation and kicking for the first half of the season. If memory serves me correctly, it was not till the end of 2004 when he really started to play to the form that was evident in 2005-2006.
