More bad behaviour

You know exactly what my point is. I don't care if all he did was pee on the flowers in his backyard. He got suspended for not following an NRL directive. The NRL have shown they are weak at the knees when it comes to applying pressure on the elite clubs - they have buckled to Brisbanes wishes. The NRL should have said to the Broncos that they could apply any penalty they wanted on him but until he followed the directive of the NRL he won't be allowed to play. If he has done nothing all he has to do is explain what happened to the IU. End of subject.
 
According to Beau Ryan, highlights of a Tigers mad Monday was Bryce Gibbs nailing his scrotum to the table.
Bryce was a great clubman.
 
@diedpretty said:
You know exactly what my point is. I don’t care if all he did was pee on the flowers in his backyard. He got suspended for not following an NRL directive. The NRL have shown they are weak at the knees when it comes to applying pressure on the elite clubs - they have buckled to Brisbanes wishes. The NRL should have said to the Broncos that they could apply any penalty they wanted on him but until he followed the directive of the NRL he won’t be allowed to play. If he has done nothing all he has to do is explain what happened to the IU. End of subject.

Spot on. Theyve gone soft on this because it is the Broncos. If one of our players refused to cooperate with the integrity unit he would not be playing this season.
 
NRL moves to rescue game’s image and compensate clubs when players are stood down

Phil Rothfield, Sports Editor-at-Large, The Daily Telegraph

41 minutes ago

St George Illawarra will be offered $600,000 in salary cap relief if star player Jack de Belin is stood down by the NRL this week while he fights sexual assault charges.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that any club forced to stand down a player facing serious criminal charges in future will receive compensation to ensure the club and their fans are not penalised.

Under the new plan, clubs could sign a replacement player on a short-term agreement. De Belin is on $600,000 at the Saints.

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Jack de Belin at WIN Stadium on Monday. Pictures: Monique Harmer

The game’s independent commission is tipped to rubber stamp the new proposal on Thursday.

If de Belin is stood down, as expected, he would remain on full pay until his court case has been finalised, which could take as long as 18 months.

Clubs have previously been reluctant to accept suspensions because of the effect on their playing rosters.

The Roosters’ influential supremo Nick Politis told The Daily Telegraph last week: “The problem is you are penalising the club and the fans more than the player.

“That’s not fair on the clubs.”

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If stood down, the NRL are expected to offer the Dragons compensation. Picture: AAP

NRL independent commission chairman Peter Beattie has taken the comments on board.

“This element of the debate will be discussed on Thursday,” Mr Beattie said.

“We’ve got to be fair to the clubs if the rules are going to be changed.”

Both Beattie and NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg will meet with St George Illawarra boss Brian Johnston and the players union on Tuesday before determining a final outcome on de Belin’s immediate future.

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De Belin with Euan Aitken at WIN Stadium in Wollongong on Monday. Picture: Monique Harmer

The Rugby League Players Association has been slammed by critics for its weak attitude regarding player behaviour and their refusal to recognise the brand damage that has been caused during the off-season.

The problem for the Dragons will be finding a suitable replacement for de Belin at short notice.

There are no middle forwards of anywhere near his ability currently on the open market.

Clubs’ rosters are all-but finalised for the year and those players potentially available are unlikely to be of the same on-field quality.

However, players could become available if the NRL comes down hard on the Cronulla Sharks and Wests Tigers over salary cap rorting.

The NRL is considering standing de Belin down. Picture: Getty Images)

The two clubs could be forced to pay several hundred thousand under the cap this year.

De Belin was spotted wearing only his swimmers outside WIN Stadium in Wollongong on Monday.

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The 27-year-old — who was ruled out of St George Illawarra’s trial clash against Newcastle due to a virus last week — was seen walking a dog with teammate Euan Aitken before they joined other players for a game of basketball.

De Belin is accused of sexually assaulting a 19-year-old woman at his cousin’s apartment after a night out in Wollongong in December last year.

Police have alleged that during the incident he told his friend to “come have a go”.

De Belin has pleaded not guilty to the charge of aggravated sexual assault and his matter will return to court on April 17.

He has successfully had his bail conditions varied so he does not need to report to police every Monday and Friday. He has also surrendered his passport.

De Belin’s case has been thrust into the spotlight after what has been a horror NRL off-season, plagued by bad player behaviour.

WTF.,…relief for drop kicks...well done NRL..jebus
 
Oh Unca Nick thinks it's a good idea…Todd ..Yes Sir Unca Sir...right away,,
 
They have got to be kidding! How on earth can that system help the image of the game? They are totally misinterpreting the fans opinion about off field behaviour.
De Belin may be innocent of the charges but he put himself in a position that comprised his career, and his personal life. Players seem more concerned about letting their mates down rather than their partners and the fans, if they know the club will be compensated with a replacement - then more of the same.
 
Who is the club going to be able to get at this late stage?

If DeBerlin is acquitted, he should sue the NRL and ARLC for the damage to his reputation and loss of any rep or bonus payments he was entitled to.
 
The incident was at a junior semi finals last year at Valleys, it involved a family member having a tirade on the field after the game( it wasn't the first incident involving his family at a junior game). He was not involved at all although he walked on the field. There were no charges layed & I don't believe he got off lightly as it could cost him over $10,000 in bonus' & incentives.
 
What incentive would a club have to rein in bad behaviour? Sure, give them some relief, but they've also got to hurt a bit when this happens under their watch.
 
@hammertime said:
What incentive would a club have to rein in bad behaviour? Sure, give them some relief, **but they’ve also got to hurt a bit when this happens under their watch.**

So clubs need to start hiring minders for when players leave training or go out on the weekend? The players are grown men and need to start acting like it. I don't like the blame being shifted back onto the clubs at all. Players are responsible for their own actions and should be held accountable for them.
 
Footballers might not be Rhodes scholars, but with Barba’s expulsion from the game and maybe a couple more to follow, they will get the message and the off season stuff will get a lot better. I think the NRL has to come down hard, but they have to be consistent in the penalties they hand out and who they hand them to. Of course that is where the NRL continue to get it wrong, they have a set of rules that are black and white for some and grey for others.
 
Not talking about minders, but the clubs should be undertaking policies to ensure that they educate these young blokes and instill the right culture around the club. To do so, clubs need to invest money.

Remember, a lot of these guys aren't grown men when they start to be brought into the clubs. We're talking 16 years old. They're still kids.

Yes, players need to take responsibility, and they should be punished. But I don't to remove the incentive for clubs to educate these young men.
 
Why is De Belin walking his dog through the streets of the gong in high-rise budgie smugglers?

I was surprised that he wore a shirt to court the other week.
 
@hammertime said:
Not talking about minders, but the clubs should be undertaking policies to ensure that they educate these young blokes and instill the right culture around the club. To do so, clubs need to invest money.

Remember, a lot of these guys aren’t grown men when they start to be brought into the clubs. We’re talking 16 years old. They’re still kids.

Yes, players need to take responsibility, and they should be punished. But I don’t to remove the incentive for clubs to educate these young men.

The clubs do educate them. Player's are subjected to extensive training and education from social media, drugs and alcohol and general conduct.

At the end of the day it's not the club's or the NRL's responsibility to teach players that beating their wife, assaulting other people or sexually assaulting women, is unacceptable behaviour.

I'm sick of these guys being treated differently just because they're good at sports.
 
That may be the case but that is not what he has been suspended and fined for - he refused to co-operate with the NRL IU. If what you say is true why didn't he just tell them that - nope instead he refused to talk to them.
 
@Harvey said:
If DeBerlin is acquitted, he should sue the NRL and ARLC for the damage to his reputation and loss of any rep or bonus payments he was entitled to.

Well he could do that but then he'd just be throwing away money on legal costs and taking on a bill to pay the legal costs of the NRL and the ARLC. How would their standing him down damage his reputation beyond what has already happened by the publication of the allegations? You would also be unable to establish that he was necessarily going to get any rep selections or payments and in any event they're entitled to regulate their own competition within reason. I don't think you're going to find any court finding that a code is not entitled to stand down players charged with serious criminal offences if that's what they choose to do.
 
I'm no expert, but Roy Masters seems to think he might have a case.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/tv-star-s-case-shows-why-arlc-shouldn-t-sterilise-de-belin-services-20190225-p5103a.html
 
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