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[magpiecol]

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan at all, but has he engaged in a smear campaign against Farah through the media?

Totally similar behaviour. :unamused:

I think for the club to move forward, both Farah and Taylor need to go.

I don't disagree with this.

I do.

One party involves himself in a smear campaign against the coach and his club. The other does not.

Yet you say that both should go. Why both?

 

[Tigermama]

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan at all, but has he engaged in a smear campaign against Farah through the media?

Totally similar behaviour. :unamused:

I think for the club to move forward, both Farah and Taylor need to go.

I think they can both remain here for the next 2 years but Robbie needs to be gone at that point and JT needs to go unless there is massive improvement in his leadership and the teams performances.

All of the drama recently is getting beyond boring.

Agree. I like the sound of that!

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

If I may draw a parallel. I had to do a deal with my neighbour about using his rough already-damaged private road and yes it was slightly damaged a bit more due to trucks for my reno job. He wanted to charge me 100% of the total repair cost whereas we had agreed on 50%. So I advertised it to the neighbours and he backed down straight away.

Did Farah's team (if it was them) do any more than that to get justice. Farah did not bring the controversy on, they knew he was a passionate guy for the Club who does not walk away (ask the refs on that one) but they had no plan B except denigration to reserves.

 

[sideline_eye]

If I may draw a parallel. I had to do a deal with my neighbour about using his rough already-damaged private road and yes it was slightly damaged a bit more due to trucks for my reno job. He wanted to charge me 100% of the total repair cost whereas we had agreed on 50%. So I advertised it to the neighbours and he backed down straight away.

Did Farah's team (if it was them) do any more than that to get justice. Farah did not bring the controversy on, they knew he was a passionate guy for the Club who does not walk away (ask the refs on that one) but they had no plan B except denigration to reserves.

How do you know that Farah didn't bring this controversy on? Nobody on this forum knows what happened for the club to take the action that it did but the one thing that I'm sure of is that they didn't do it without a reason.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Seeing GNR, that as you have called it crap, then you must have read it. Can you post a link?

 

[batboy]

In response to Batboy's supposed conflict of interest claim.

She is representing two parties to the same problem. Both times it is representing a player or a player association. At face value it looks like there is a consistency of interest if anything.

It's hardly the same problem - Far from it.
Player welfare inside the club has nothing to do with the Farah situation.
Farah has got the tap on the shoulder (Probably didn't feel it as it was absorbed by the chip)

Farah thinks he has earned the right to stay around as long as he likes, Regardless of form and playing attitude… HE IS WRONG!!
Nobody earns that right in life and or football.... You work for it - all day - everyday.

**The best way to keep your job is to STFU and do it...**

 

[hammertime]

The way robbie has been treated by this club is wrong! So wrong! This is all in retaliation to the way he has been treated, no doubt he will be doing all in his power to destroy taylor and everything around him, that is why all of this can be connected back to him or his manager and associates. I cant blame him for stirring up all these dramas, the club deserves it. but it is also the club i love and will support long after robbie has gone. Its such a horrid time for our club, robbie deserved better but i also dont want to see the club dragged down any lower.

Oh spare me. Long serving players get moved on, it's a part of the game these days.

The club had been respectful, they kept it quiet in order to allow Farah to sort his future out, and then someone (gee, wonder who?) leaks to the media that it's happening and then it becomes a farce? The club has to put out one reactive statement and all we have heard since is a barrage of claims of welfare issues, abuse of players, a dossier of unconscionable dealings and other unsubstantiated innuendo.

The kicker is that people believe that anyone in Farah's corner believes he has every right to see out his contract but see it perfectly fit that the corrective action to this is to sack the coach from **_his_** contract. The Farah club are all thinking with their hearts and while that's perfectly fine to back a player you love, it tends to cloud your judgement in the overall scheme of things. I think Farah's efforts have been disgraceful in using Ayoub as a vehicle to slander the club. It just proves how unprofessional and vindictive he can be as well and to be quite honest it is unbecoming of a club captain and sets a poor example for the kids in the side.

Extremely well put CB.

The media bashing via Ayoub has really highlighted exactly why the club is trying to get rid of Farah. The club can hold their head high as far as I'm concerned. They've tried to do the right thing. No one would have even known about it if it wasn't for Ayoub leaking it to the press!

Lawrence is in exactly the same boat as Farah (but not for attitude issues). However, that hasn't even been mentioned in the media. Why?

 

[Abraham]

So now you are questioning whether a barrister who works within legal system everyday is acting within her professional rights???? Dont worry - I think she may know what she is doing.

Or… maybe not.

Wouldn't be the first legal eagle to push the boundaries.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

If Farah was playing up why did he have to ask legal reps to find out what was behind it?
If JT is behind Farah's heave ho from the Club then I can understand Farah's fans seeking his neck though I don't subscribe to it. Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

I realise the 200 pages is the dog running around chasing it's tail.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan at all, but has he engaged in a smear campaign against Farah through the media?

Totally similar behaviour. :unamused:

I think for the club to move forward, both Farah and Taylor need to go.

I don't disagree with this.

I do.

One party involves himself in a smear campaign against the coach and his club. The other does not.

Yet you say that both should go. Why both?

Because I don't think Taylor is the man to deliver. However, in the interest of hiring future coaches, it is probably best that Taylor keeps his job for the time being.

My reasons for moving Taylor would be purely performance based, not because of his personality/attitude.

 

[westTAHger]

No doubt all teams have problems from time to time.
They are probably dealt with " in an appropriate manner in house", and not aired in the media.
All this is doing is turning people away from wests-tigers brand, and the club being a point of ridicule.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If I may draw a parallel. I had to do a deal with my neighbour about using his rough already-damaged private road and yes it was slightly damaged a bit more due to trucks for my reno job. He wanted to charge me 100% of the total repair cost whereas we had agreed on 50%. So I advertised it to the neighbours and he backed down straight away.

Did Farah's team (if it was them) do any more than that to get justice. Farah did not bring the controversy on, they knew he was a passionate guy for the Club who does not walk away (ask the refs on that one) but they had no plan B except denigration to reserves.

How do you know that Farah didn't bring this controversy on? Nobody on this forum knows what happened for the club to take the action that it did but the one thing that I'm sure of is that they didn't do it without a reason.

Moreover, they were not the ones who went to the media.

Your example is far from comparative Byron. Your neighbour trying to rip you off financially is plenty different to Farah digging in his heels over where he will finish his career, irrespective of the fact that he will get what he's owed. And I disagree that Farah didn't bring on the circus, Farah brought the controversy on when he dragged the events through the media via his manager when the club was trying to facilitate his future behind closed doors.

He has completely dicked himself out of any chance of a future at this club that he may have remotely had with the shenanigans that Ayoub pulled. This only confirms that he thinks he's bigger than the club when he's ready to bring the whole show down for little gain.

 

[Telltails]

The way robbie has been treated by this club is wrong! So wrong! This is all in retaliation to the way he has been treated, no doubt he will be doing all in his power to destroy taylor and everything around him, that is why all of this can be connected back to him or his manager and associates. I cant blame him for stirring up all these dramas, the club deserves it. but it is also the club i love and will support long after robbie has gone. Its such a horrid time for our club, robbie deserved better but i also dont want to see the club dragged down any lower.

Oh spare me. Long serving players get moved on, it's a part of the game these days.

The club had been respectful, they kept it quiet in order to allow Farah to sort his future out, and then someone (gee, wonder who?) leaks to the media that it's happening and then it becomes a farce? The club has to put out one reactive statement and all we have heard since is a barrage of claims of welfare issues, abuse of players, a dossier of unconscionable dealings and other unsubstantiated innuendo.

The kicker is that people believe that anyone in Farah's corner believes he has every right to see out his contract but see it perfectly fit that the corrective action to this is to sack the coach from **_his_** contract. The Farah club are all thinking with their hearts and while that's perfectly fine to back a player you love, it tends to cloud your judgement in the overall scheme of things. I think Farah's efforts have been disgraceful in using Ayoub as a vehicle to slander the club. It just proves how unprofessional and vindictive he can be as well and to be quite honest it is unbecoming of a club captain and sets a poor example for the kids in the side.

Extremely well put CB.

The media bashing via Ayoub has really highlighted exactly why the club is trying to get rid of Farah. The club can hold their head high as far as I'm concerned. They've tried to do the right thing. No one would have even known about it if it wasn't for Ayoub leaking it to the press!

Lawrence is in exactly the same boat as Farah (but not for attitude issues). However, that hasn't even been mentioned in the media. Why?

Fair point. The irony in all of that is that Farah himself has been the victim of media bashing and leaked information - blamed for sacking coaches, warring with Benji, being divisive, running the club ( certainly not leaked by Ayoub I would imagine) all speculative - and unless anyone here has been privy to it, that is what we base our knowledge of Farah on - information we read or hear, accurate or not. If Farah is involved in any story the press are on to it, and while some of it has been sympathetic in this saga, its often not been in the past - hence why he has many detractors. If anything it has been the perfect foil for Taylor to justify his decision, at least with some of the fan base.

The biggest frustration for me in all of this is that I am convinced that both want the same thing and thats for this team to win more games.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Give Robbie an incentive, if things for the team and coach go perfectly with his total backing he may get the captaincy back. Or if he has put his total effort into attempting achieve such then also he gets the captaincy back. Pipe dream maybe but… (hint: they may need his advice in the captaincy dept)

 

[Milky]

Give Robbie an incentive, if things for the team and coach go perfectly with his total backing he may get the captaincy back. Or if he has put his total effort into attempting achieve such then also he gets the captaincy back. Pipe dream maybe but… (hint: they may need his advice in the captaincy dept)

Taylor wants him gone, you don't give a player an incentive when you are trying to force him out.

 

[hammertime]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Give Robbie an incentive, if things for the team and coach go perfectly with his total backing he may get the captaincy back. Or if he has put his total effort into attempting achieve such then also he gets the captaincy back. Pipe dream maybe but… (hint: they may need his advice in the captaincy dept)

Taylor wants him gone, you don't give a player an incentive when you are trying to force him out.

And if JT is successful is it the best thing for the Club in the long term? Amongst many fans and Club members I guess it is not. Sometimes not having total power can be a blessing (when J Howard had total power it was his downfall). They both have to learn to compromise and get on, they are both professionals that is what they get paid big dollars to do. We do it in personal relationships (especially marriages) all the time.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

 

[PYMBLEPETE]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

Im not sure what your point is; however Taylor was a halfback for starters. When he retired he held the record for most career points (since surpassed). He was selected for State of Origin on numerous occasions and won the predecessor to the Dally M award. A fairly respectable playing career I would have thought.

 

[innsaneink]

…and Potter won two Dally M's....but continue bagging them both