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[GNR4LIFE]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

Just when you think the barrel can't be scraped any lower.

 

[batboy]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

And both do their own talking…. Crazy!!
And both getting overthrown by an egotistical club stalwart....
That's about it.

I still get a giggle of Gordon Tallis ousting Robbie last year for bagging Potter - Then Robbie having Ayoub ring MMM live to claim it was a rubbish rumour.
THEN Gordie put that to bed....
Then it was all of a sudden Mayers fault for not defending him....
- First he never said the coach was rubbish, Then he did say it and the club CEO needed to publicly defend him for saying it- Who is this person?

The fact EVERY OTHER CLUB can have him for free and doesn't want him - speaks volumes about him as a person and as a player.

One day all you boys will sit back and giggle at your defence of this Cancer.
We've now signed another club legend - Who's won more than one premiership (less than a decade ago), been rake to the best halves pairing in the game, Understudy to the best hooker we have seen and is a genuinely good guy - Who will bleed for this club, Play as he's told and has less miles on him than Farah.

Do you think old mate will get the point now?

Take off the Black, White and Orange glasses people.... Today is a new dawning!! :righton:

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

Im not sure what your point is; however Taylor was a halfback for starters. When he retired he held the record for most career points (since surpassed). He was selected for State of Origin on numerous occasions and won the predecessor to the Dally M award. A fairly respectable playing career I would have thought.

Also held the record for the most number of consecutive games played till Luke Douglas broke it.

 

[Bengal_Tiger]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

And both do their own talking…. Crazy!!
And both getting overthrown by an egotistical club stalwart....
That's about it.

I still get a giggle of Gordon Tallis ousting Robbie last year for bagging Potter - Then Robbie having Ayoub ring MMM live to claim it was a rubbish rumour.
THEN Gordie put that to bed....
Then it was all of a sudden Mayers fault for not defending him....
- First he never said the coach was rubbish, Then he did say it and the club CEO needed to publicly defend him for saying it- Who is this person?

The fact EVERY OTHER CLUB can have him for free and doesn't want him - speaks volumes about him as a person and as a player.

One day all you boys will sit back and giggle at your defence of this Cancer.
We've now signed another club legend - Who's won more than one premiership (less than a decade ago), been rake to the best halves pairing in the game, Understudy to the best hooker we have seen and is a genuinely good guy - Who will bleed for this club, Play as he's told and has less miles on him than Farah.

Do you think old mate will get the point now?

Take off the Black, White and Orange glasses people.... Today is a new dawning!! :righton:

Well said batboy!!! Great post

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

 

[tigeress]

Geez we are attracting a lot of unwanted attention. It's a real circus at the moment. I don't think this is what we need at the beginning of the( pre)-season ( or anytime for that matter). I hope everyone calms down soon and gives us a break, and lets the team and coaches get on with it ….Good luck Tigers

 

[Russell]

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan at all, but has he engaged in a smear campaign against Farah through the media?

Totally similar behaviour. :unamused:

I think for the club to move forward, both Farah and Taylor need to go.

Why does JT need to go?

Simple question.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If I may draw a parallel. I had to do a deal with my neighbour about using his rough already-damaged private road and yes it was slightly damaged a bit more due to trucks for my reno job. He wanted to charge me 100% of the total repair cost whereas we had agreed on 50%. So I advertised it to the neighbours and he backed down straight away.

Did Farah's team (if it was them) do any more than that to get justice. Farah did not bring the controversy on, they knew he was a passionate guy for the Club who does not walk away (ask the refs on that one) but they had no plan B except denigration to reserves.

How do you know that Farah didn't bring this controversy on? Nobody on this forum knows what happened for the club to take the action that it did but the one thing that I'm sure of is that they didn't do it without a reason.

I'd say a fair guess was that Taylor saw a way to buy new players if they could Palm Farah off to SL, for even half of his money. The problem was that they bungled it and he dug his heels in, which stymied Taylors plains.
They are still hoping that will happen.
I don't actually think that the plan was completely wrong, just that Taylor and the club were not able to be professional enough to do it properly., and get cooperation from Robbie.
Even though I still think Farah will kill it this year, and I hope he stays, I can see their
Point. Just bad management stuffed it before they got results.
If Farah does play out of his skin. They'll need a hell of an excuse to leave him out without looking plain vindictive.
You're right , no one knows what happened, but I'd love a couple of hundred on it being pretty close to the situation just offered.
Players don't have a problem with him. Most supporters, ( not just the ones on here, ) have shown that they don't have a problem with him.
And if the club really had anything on him, he'd already be gone.

 

[gallagher]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

Potter is backing Farah? When?

 

[Russell]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

What are you on Mate??????

JT was a half back. Potter was a Full Back
Potter was a two time Dally M winner
As far as I recall - Potter player for Canterbury and St. George (Numerous times?)
Missed out on selection numerous times to do what?????

Don't let facts get in the way of making a point.

 

[marzie]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

Potter is backing Farah? When?

On an episode of sterlo later in the season

 

[gallagher]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

Potter is backing Farah? When?

On an episode of sterlo later in the season

Wad that it? He said Farah was not being used properly by Taylor. That's all. It's a big stretch to say he's backing Farah in all this.
Also stated that Farah wants what's best for fatah but that's not always what's best for the team. And he said you need your captain to follow game plans.

 

[ricksen]

As well as the above, Potter also suggested it'd be best for both parties if Farah took a fresh start elsewhere.

 

[marzie]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

Potter is backing Farah? When?

On an episode of sterlo later in the season

Wad that it? He said Farah was not being used properly by Taylor. That's all. It's a big stretch to say he's backing Farah in all this.
Also stated that Farah wants what's best for fatah but that's not always what's best for the team. And he said you need your captain to follow game plans.

Maybe I need to re-watch it. From my memory he was asked does he think Farah is a negative influence that should be removed from the team and he said no, that Taylor needed to use Robbie's unique skills to his advantage rather than limit him. Also denied he thought robbie contributed to his departure. I don't think it's a stretch to call that a backing

 

[coopy]

I'd say a fair guess was that Taylor saw a way to buy new players if they could Palm Farah off to SL, for even half of his money. The problem was that they bungled it and he dug his heels in, which stymied Taylors plains.
They are still hoping that will happen.
I don't actually think that the plan was wrong, just that Taylor and the club were not able to be professional enough to do it properly., and get cooperation from Robbie.
Even though I still think Farah will kill it this year, and I hope he stays, I can see their
Point. Just bad management stuffed it before they got results.
If Farah does play out of his skin. They'll need a hell of an excuse to leave him out without looking plain vindictive.i
You're right , no one knows what happened, but I'd love a couple of hundred on it being pretty close to the situation just offered.
Players don't have a problem with him. Most supporters, ( not just the ones on here, ) have shown that they don't have a problem with him.
And if the club really had anything on him, he'd already be gone.

I think this hits it pretty much on the head.

What no one saw or was expecting was the size of the egos of both JT and Robbie.

We are now in a pissing contest where there will be no winners and the only losers are going to be the fans. The Matt Ballin signing just reaks of arrogance from JT (we now have more hookers than brothel) and will only drive to increase the stubbornness of Robbie.

When all this started, I kind of foolishly hoped that professionalism would ultimately win the day but I think they are both as bad as one another and both should perhaps find greener pastures.

 

[cktiger]

Contracts have to be respected unless decided upon by all parties agreeing to do otherwise. This did not occur.

True. The contract is being respected though, Robbie will get paid as agreed. There is no agreement for Robbie to play First Grade.

We only need to look back to last year to maybe see if this is karma. Robbie essentially terminated Mick based on ego and loose lips. If the club was to give in to his mouthpiece - Ayoub - they'll continued to get walked over again and again.

For once, we have a line drawn in the sand of what's acceptable and what isn't. Hats off to the management and coaches for taking the hits that they are being subjected to, despite probably having a high level of causality for their actions.

I just noticed the similarity of Mick Potter and JT's background. Predominantly fullbacks/gaol kickers, moved clubs numerous times, missed out on selection numerous times. Every different to Robbie - no wonder they aren't peaches and cream.

And both do their own talking…. Crazy!!
And both getting overthrown by an egotistical club stalwart....
That's about it.

I still get a giggle of Gordon Tallis ousting Robbie last year for bagging Potter - Then Robbie having Ayoub ring MMM live to claim it was a rubbish rumour.
THEN Gordie put that to bed....
Then it was all of a sudden Mayers fault for not defending him....
- First he never said the coach was rubbish, Then he did say it and the club CEO needed to publicly defend him for saying it- Who is this person?

The fact EVERY OTHER CLUB can have him for free and doesn't want him - speaks volumes about him as a person and as a player.

One day all you boys will sit back and giggle at your defence of this Cancer.
We've now signed another club legend - Who's won more than one premiership (less than a decade ago), been rake to the best halves pairing in the game, Understudy to the best hooker we have seen and is a genuinely good guy - Who will bleed for this club, Play as he's told and has less miles on him than Farah.

Do you think old mate will get the point now?

Take off the Black, White and Orange glasses people.... Today is a new dawning!! :righton:

The funny thing is I have followed this club since I was a kid in the early 60's.
My grandfather played for the Tigers in the thirties.
In all that time I have supported the team (now WestsTigers) and the players.
I can't recall ever barracking for the coach - which you obviously do in regards his treatment of Farah.
You are a DISGRACE to call one of the club's legends and Life Members a 'cancer'.
Where do you get off?
Get back behind your keyboard and dream that you could ever achieve anything that anyone might recognise.

 

[gallagher]

Maybe I need to re-watch it. From my memory he was asked does he think Farah is a negative influence that should be removed from the team and he said no, that Taylor needed to use Robbie's unique skills to his advantage rather than limit him. Also denied he thought robbie contributed to his departure. I don't think it's a stretch to call that a backing

I don't remember him being asked about Farah getting rid of him or if he thought Farah should be removed from the team. Maybe i need to have another look aswell.
But even if that is right, saying that pottrt is backing Farah in all of this is a big stretch. He's never said taylir should be the one to go has he?

 

[Geo]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

Potter is backing Farah? When?

On an episode of sterlo later in the season

Wad that it? He said Farah was not being used properly by Taylor. That's all. It's a big stretch to say he's backing Farah in all this.
Also stated that Farah wants what's best for fatah but that's not always what's best for the team. And he said you need your captain to follow game plans.

Potter has also said in a article he advised the current management at the time (Humpty) that Farah's contract should have been only extended for 2 years not 4….Ironically as has been documented Potter had no real say over his playing roster and was never given a fair go...

Now it appears the Wests Tigers management have woken up to that mistake and are currently backing the football departments decisions ...yet that is apparently also wrong...go figure...

 

[TYGA]

The problem really is that Management do not have the football nous between the board, CEO and the Coach. The coach is being given the power of a Bennett & Bellamy however, if you run with this type of structure you need a proven head coach. In my view WT are making terrible decisions with recruitment and retention over the past 2 years: Korobiete, Lodge, Taupau, Farah, Ballin, Bodene Thompson, Blake Austin, Nathan Brown. We also have the issue of our two most aggressive Hard Men in Taupau and Galloway have not been replaced.

 

[ryanda01]

The problem really is that Management do not have the football nous between the board, CEO and the Coach. The coach is being given the power of a Bennett & Bellamy however, if you run with this type of structure you need a proven head coach. In my view WT are making terrible decisions with recruitment and retention over the past 2 years: Korobiete, Lodge, Taupau, Farah, Ballin, Bodene Thompson, Blake Austin, Nathan Brown. We also have the issue of our two most aggressive Hard Men in Taupau and Galloway have not been replaced.

It's the cyclic nature of a performance culture that has left us where we are. A dash of recruitment sure; but half the players you mentioned didn't want to be here. You retain when you win and have cash. You have cash when you win (sponsors, TPA, etc). Good players allow you to win. One of the cogs need to change for the wheel to turn. Just don't know which one….