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[TigerOfBankstown]

Batboy , they will Not get him for free, or even close to that
We will still be playing a big bit of his contract, yes
But as a NSW player. A club woud be unable to register him if they were getting him at too low a price.
I'm not sure exactly what the Cap rules are on that, but it's already been mentioned in the press at least a couple of times.
If anyone goes know the rules regarding that , they may be able to enlighten us all on that.

Well, with the news of slammin Sam coming back, it shows that there was at least one club with money. You'd probably say that that money was always there for Sam, and you are probably right, but are we going to pretend that not 1 of the other 14 clubs showed no interest due to monetary reasons? Come on. Manly, Newcastle and the Titans are 3 teams i can think of off the top of my head. At the very least i'm sure a couple of clubs would have tried to offload 1 or 2 players like Souths are trying to do with Dylan Walker because of Burgess, to do anything they can to have the NSW hooker. Not sure how you can look at it and not even entertain that his character might have something to do with why not 1 club came knocking. Plus, no clubs wanting him would make it easier for Farah to gain sympathy by saying how much he loves the club, because he has no choice to stay. I honestly don't think he would risk missing out on Origin by playing NSW cup. Also, why would he be so desperate to stay at a club run by someone supposedly as incompetent as JT? I love how all JT's baggers ignore the fact that despite all this, Farah is desperate to stay at the club he coaches. Wouldn't he be out the door first chance he got?

No other club wants Jason Taylor either, hence the Mexican stand off between the two, you have two very desperate blokes that know that they will never get another gig at another NRL club, well JT that's %100 true, for Robbie %90 that is if the saints don't pick up Rob, though if I were the saints I'd stick with Mitch rein.

Is there any reason why people are willing to give JT an open cheque book besides having the same coach for the sake of it? Or because Brisn Smith said so? After what's a contract or loyalty mean these days?

We will certainly revisit JTs tenure at the end of 2016.. It will be interesting, especially for JTs band wagon cheer leading crew on the ss titanic

Unfortunately then, we are all on the SS Titanic.

So instead of pushing your own hate JT agenda, maybe you should hope (like a good Tigers supporter) that the club goes well in 2016 and makes the eight.

I think that would be a better result for the Club, members, players, supporters etc. than the Tigers going down the drain just so you and a few mates can have a laugh, a few beers and say "I told you so".

Believe me chief.. I wouldnt be reading comments on this forum if I didn't love the the Tigers, how i would love to be proven wrong, though logically black is black, I can't see otherwise how JT will prove us wrong, I don't want the bloke to fail in life.. I just can't comprehend it.. Hence the root cause of our frustrations, as for Robbie good luck to him.

- Sheens I loved him
- I liked Potter and I think he had the potential to be a great nrl coach
- JT I just don't see it, before WT or now, 1 season in I still can't see it.. Do I hate him no? Do I think he is the man for job no? Do I think he's a mans man? No

 

[GNR4LIFE]

No other club wants Jason Taylor either

Not sure why this matters. Clubs aren't usually in the business of shopping their coaches around.

you have two very desperate blokes that know that they will never get another gig at another NRL club, well JT that's %100 true

Why is it 100% true? You're crucifying him for one bad yr. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Did he learn from them? Judging by the way the team played towards the end of the yr, you can argue he did. A couple facts about JT that everyone who wants him lynched refuses to acknowledge is that he's had success at 2 previous NRL clubs, and despite mistakes that he's made this yr, he has not had the luxury of having the side he wants due to the cap, and most likely will not till 2017\. Is he Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy? No, but he isn't Paul Langmack or Arthur Kitinas either.

You call JT desperate, i call him brave. You say that he'll never get another gig in the NRL again. If that's the case, why would he risk his tenure here by doing something so out of the box? Wouldn't it be easier just to continue with the status quo? Rightly or wrongly, he's gone all in with this and it will be what defines his tenure here.

We will certainly revisit JTs tenure at the end of 2016.. It will be interesting, especially for JTs band wagon cheer leading crew on the ss titanic

I don't think he has any band wagoners. You'd be hard pressed to find one Wests fan that hasn't bagged him at least once this yr. Just because people support this decision doesn't make them band wagoners. Unlike the ones who want him gone, there are others who are happy to wait and see how he goes with the side he wants before calling for his head.

 

[magpiecol]

No other club wants Jason Taylor either

Not sure why this matters. Clubs aren't usually in the business of shopping their coaches around.

you have two very desperate blokes that know that they will never get another gig at another NRL club, well JT that's %100 true

Why is it 100% true? You're crucifying him for one bad yr. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Did he learn from them? Judging by the way the team played towards the end of the yr, you can argue he did. A couple facts about JT that everyone who wants him lynched refuses to acknowledge is that he's had success at 2 previous NRL clubs, and despite mistakes that he's made this yr, he has not had the luxury of having the side he wants due to the cap, and most likely will not till 2017\. Is he Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy? No, but he isn't Paul Langmack or Arthur Kitinas either.

You call JT desperate, i call him brave. You say that he'll never get another gig in the NRL again. If that's the case, why would he risk his tenure here by doing something so out of the box? Wouldn't it be easier just to continue with the status quo? Rightly or wrongly, he's gone all in with this and it will be what defines his tenure here.

We will certainly revisit JTs tenure at the end of 2016.. It will be interesting, especially for JTs band wagon cheer leading crew on the ss titanic

I don't think he has any band wagoners. You'd be hard pressed to find one Wests fan that hasn't bagged him at least once this yr. Just because people support this decision doesn't make them band wagoners. Unlike the ones who want him gone, there are others who are happy to wait and see how he goes with the side he wants before calling for his head.

Well said GNR4life. He was hired to do a job and so far he has done it well. Players gone, young players re-signed, some new blood, getting the salary cap under control, improving our defence and reducing our injuries. So far, so good.

When he gets the side he wants and we do not go so well, then we can get out the baseball bat. Until then, let's wait and see.

 

[stevetiger]

Well said GNR4life. He was hired to do a job and so far he has done it well. Players gone, young players re-signed, some new blood, getting the salary cap under control, improving our defence and reducing our injuries. So far, so good.

When he gets the side he wants and we do not go so well, then we can get out the baseball bat. Until then, let's wait and see.

Col - so far JT has been extremely poor. GNR did state that he looked to have learned from his mistakes and the team appeared to improve with regards to tactics at the end of the year. I agree with this and it gives me some hope for next year for JT.

The team though underperformed last year and the Farah drama has been extremely poorly handled.

Lets hope he improves next year. If so I will be stoked.

 

[TigerOfBankstown]

No other club wants Jason Taylor either

Not sure why this matters. Clubs aren't usually in the business of shopping their coaches around.

you have two very desperate blokes that know that they will never get another gig at another NRL club, well JT that's %100 true

Why is it 100% true? You're crucifying him for one bad yr. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Did he learn from them? Judging by the way the team played towards the end of the yr, you can argue he did. A couple facts about JT that everyone who wants him lynched refuses to acknowledge is that he's had success at 2 previous NRL clubs, and despite mistakes that he's made this yr, he has not had the luxury of having the side he wants due to the cap, and most likely will not till 2017\. Is he Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy? No, but he isn't Paul Langmack or Arthur Kitinas either.

You call JT desperate, i call him brave. You say that he'll never get another gig in the NRL again. If that's the case, why would he risk his tenure here by doing something so out of the box? Wouldn't it be easier just to continue with the status quo? Rightly or wrongly, he's gone all in with this and it will be what defines his tenure here.

We will certainly revisit JTs tenure at the end of 2016.. It will be interesting, especially for JTs band wagon cheer leading crew on the ss titanic

I don't think he has any band wagoners. You'd be hard pressed to find one Wests fan that hasn't bagged him at least once this yr. Just because people support this decision doesn't make them band wagoners. Unlike the ones who want him gone, there are others who are happy to wait and see how he goes with the side he wants before calling for his head.

Good points though 2017? So many variables based on assumptions and not tangible facts, look at Blair, great at the storm, crap at the Tigers then great at the Broncos. Buying players doesn't always work out well. I think their is to much emphasis on the cap, when it should be on bringing out the best out of the current mob as any good decent coach would..

JT is in his 40s and has coached two other NRL clubs, the time for learning is long gone, if your not adding value at that point then I dont see room for improvement. Instead JT giving us winning isn't everything statements and convincing the board that we should just write off 2015/16, how about he gives something on the footy park to cheer about? And I'm not talking about the 8, just play some bloody footy. Don't buy into the cap story, we have some young guns, we should have done better this year..

 

[Tim Sheens]

You call JT desperate, i call him brave.

You'd be hard pressed to find one Wests fan that hasn't bagged him at least once this yr. Just because people support this decision doesn't make them band wagoners. Unlike the ones who want him gone, there are others who are happy to wait and see how he goes with the side he wants before calling for his head.

You would normally be hard pressed to find one, but bizzarly there are probably two on this page, in Russell and Magpiecol.

Good post, as I was also bagging him earlier on, before what I saw as subtle changes being made and whilst not waving his flag, am certainly behind the change Taylor and the club are trying to implement.

 

[gallagher]

Farah has put in for WTs more times than you have had hot dinners . Questioning his commitment to the club is plainly ridiculous. Especially during last season. Farah missed games after the SOOSeries yes. But the missed games weren't caused by injuries
From SOO,
He played for the club with a injured shoulder when he could have sat back and had the weeks rest, then walked back into the next Origin game.
Instead he played for the club, and during that game sustained the broken hand.
The reason that he missed the Origin was that he "put in for the club".
I have no problem if you want to bash Farah, just try using facts .
The accusation that you use has been answered on other occasions on this forum, and using it all over again just shows your ignorance of the real facts.
If all he cared about was SOO , then he wouldn't have risked an injury by playing for the club

It was lathami's theory that farah is just hanging around for Taylor to get sacked. Even his supporters are questioning his love for the club.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Farah is prepared to back himself against Taylor. And so he should, our team didn't improve since Round 1.

 

[ghost]

It got worse…

 

[gallagher]

Farah is prepared to back himself against Taylor. And so he should, our team didn't improve since Round 1.

Did farah improve?

 

[Russell]

Farah is prepared to back himself against Taylor. And so he should, our team didn't improve since Round 1.

Did farah improve?

Naw - he got worse

 

[Geo]

Farah is prepared to back himself against Taylor. And so he should, our team didn't improve since Round 1.

Did farah improve?

Naw - he got worse

That's cause he was following instructions….or wasn't I dunno.. 😕 :unamused:

 

[gallagher]

Farah is prepared to back himself against Taylor. And so he should, our team didn't improve since Round 1.

Did farah improve?

Naw - he got worse

That's cause he was following instructions….or wasn't I dunno.. 😕 :unamused:

Neither. Some think he's just been hanging around till the coach gets the punt. Which would actually explain his form from the last few years.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

As JT did not want Robbie in the team he should exclude him from first few rounds to prove how the team holds up without him - and as a result probably gets thrashed at a guess.

 

[gallagher]

As JT did not want Robbie in the team he should exclude him from first few rounds to prove how the team holds up without him - and as a result probably gets thrashed at a guess.

Yeah there's nothing like hoping we get thrashed.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As JT did not want Robbie in the team he should exclude him from first few rounds to prove how the team holds up without him - and as a result probably gets thrashed at a guess.

Yeah there's nothing like hoping we get thrashed.

Something else I don't get, people saying they hope we're in a position half way through 2016 where he's sacked. They're basically saying they hope we're coming near last. Strange way to support your team but each to their own.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

As JT did not want Robbie in the team he should exclude him from first few rounds to prove how the team holds up without him - and as a result probably gets thrashed at a guess.

Yeah there's nothing like hoping we get thrashed.

Actually the reverse, I hope Farah is in and plays outstandingly and last for full contract period. If Farah does not play SOO they could reach top 8, then the club will pick up in many aspects. But I think JT has to bend to use Farah's full potential. I have seen my old team the Magpies go down, I down want to see my next team go down as well.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

As JT did not want Robbie in the team he should exclude him from first few rounds to prove how the team holds up without him - and as a result probably gets thrashed at a guess.

Yeah there's nothing like hoping we get thrashed.

Something else I don't get, people saying they hope we're in a position half way through 2016 where he's sacked. They're basically saying they hope we're coming near last. Strange way to support your team but each to their own.

I think they are diehard Farah fans and hopes whats happens to Robbie they also want to happen to JT. With Robbie gone they may not support the club any longer, or a lot more passive about it. If Robbie eventually gets his job back I will sign up even though 500 miles away.

 

[gallagher]

As JT did not want Robbie in the team he should exclude him from first few rounds to prove how the team holds up without him - and as a result probably gets thrashed at a guess.

Yeah there's nothing like hoping we get thrashed.

Something else I don't get, people saying they hope we're in a position half way through 2016 where he's sacked. They're basically saying they hope we're coming near last. Strange way to support your team but each to their own.

I think they are diehard Farah fans and hopes whats happens to Robbie they also want to happen to JT. With Robbie gone they may not support the club any longer, or a lot more passive about it. If Robbie eventually gets his job back I will sign up even though 500 miles away.

I think if anyone stops supporting the club because Farah got moved on are just looking for an excuse to bale. No doubt they'll return when we come good.

 

[TYGA]

This issue is not people wanting the club to lose to prove a point more the fact we need a circuit breaker to challenge next year. Some believe its Farah leaving, others believe its JT getting sacked. I don't believe any of these two outcomes will change the projected outcome of next year as I believe we have a average young squad and a very average coach. The bigger change for me would be a new coach but it would have to be Cleary or better to even bother, otherwise even though I don't rate him,JT should get at least until mid year to prove his worth for a final season.