OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

[TigerSJ]

My major concern with Mbye in any position is he looks to me like he’s simply marking time with us now. He is moving on and he may as well already have gone because his heart and effort are not in it. Listening to the interview with him on WTs app he sounded totally disinterested and unconvincing.
Problem for Madge is we have few realistic options at centre or at 5/8.
AD may well struggle defensively at centre especially if marking Best.

 

[twentyforty]

I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it ?

Scratching at straws but could it be an audition for Mbye to squeeze more dollars out of his new suitors?

I think Madge has a single minded motivation..to win. And therefore everything he does has that focus.

 

[earl]

I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it ?

Scratching at straws but could it be an audition for Mbye to squeeze more dollars out of his new suitors?


I think Madge has a single minded motivation..to win. And therefore everything he does has that focus.

I agree. I think he is just trying stuff. Doueihi can do his stuff a little wider and we might see Madden at 7 and Brooks at 6.

 

[tigerap]

The Jet will be back in 2-3 weeks, AD will be back at 6 then.

 

[BAGNF05]

Madge is now moving Doueihi from 6 to Center with Mbye moving to 6 to partner with Brooks.

A very strange move as many would agree Doueihi has been one of our best on field.

At first I was dead set against it. Doueihi was in form, why move him.

Yet I see the pro's:
Mbye Passes, a lot. Getting the Ball out a lot more.
He has speed.
He has energy.

The cons:
Mbye tends to speedhump in defense. Getting in a good positpion and not stopping rhe player. . Maybe a good reason to not put him at Center or Fullback.

Mbye does not direct a side. Passes a lot and follows the side.

Mbye rarely runs. IMHO a ball running 5/8 is good to have.

I see good pros with Doueihi at center. Can pass. Can Run. Can defend and were leaking tries. Moving Doueihi to center makes him the one who scores or the one to pass to score.

Still dont know about this change...

Maybe the game plan is run mbye at Klemmer and Frizell all day. Look for a Souths style medical retirement

 

[Demps]

Mbye is an "athlete" but he's definitely not a footballer...

Heard this mentioned about him a bunch of times.

One guy who always looks like his heart just isn't in it.

 

[twentyforty]

Mbye is an "athlete" but he's definitely not a footballer...

Heard this mentioned about him a bunch of times.

One guy who always looks like his heart just isn't in it.

A few QLDers in the SoO camp think he is a 6, and have been critical of Dogs and WT for playing him out of position.
I personally think it’s a good idea for a young player to play many different positions while learning the game, but it’s a must to settle and specialise at an early stage if you’re going to reach peak performance. Mbye has moved around so much that he is average at all positions but not really good at one. It’s interesting that Blues selectors wouldn’t dream of playing Teddy anywhere but one, while T Turbo would be slotted in at 2,3,4 or 5?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .

 

[member850]

The Jet will be back in 2-3 weeks, AD will be back at 6 then.

What is Jets problem ?

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it 🤔

i think its his best position as he rushes out of the line too much

Also agree, it shouldnt have come at a cost of AD being moved
If anything, Brooks needed to go but our defence is vulnerable on the edges, something AD will be able to bolster

 

[twentyforty]

Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .

I think it’s more likely Madden comes on for Mbye, pushing Brooks to 6?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The Jet will be back in 2-3 weeks, AD will be back at 6 then.

What is Jets problem ?

Pec injury apparently.

 

[tony soprano]

With how he spoke it sounds like a smoke screen.

 

[tony soprano]

I’d bring jock in at 6 and shift mbye to 13

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .


I think it’s more likely Madden comes on for Mbye, pushing Brooks to 6?

Hopefully . I think the messaging coming out of the club, has started to shift towards the idea that brooks isn’t and can’t be the lead voice on the field , and as others have said , you can’t have your 6 be that person . It has to be the 7. So maybe this is the beginning of the Jock Madden generation. I hope he kills it .

 

[twentyforty]

Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .


I think it’s more likely Madden comes on for Mbye, pushing Brooks to 6?

Hopefully . I think the messaging coming out of the club, has started to shift towards the idea that brooks isn’t and can’t be the lead voice on the field , and as others have said , you can’t have your 6 be that person . It has to be the 7. So maybe this is the beginning of the Jock Madden generation. I hope he kills it .

Yes, I hope he sees this opportunity as the beginning of his career. He’ll bring the house down if he does. Brooks is the one in the team with a beautiful passing game though. I think Madge is trying to ignite the backline, so wouldn’t surprise me to see Brooks at 6 when Madden comes on?

 

[Demps]

Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .


I think it’s more likely Madden comes on for Mbye, pushing Brooks to 6?

Hopefully . I think the messaging coming out of the club, has started to shift towards the idea that brooks isn’t and can’t be the lead voice on the field , and as others have said , you can’t have your 6 be that person . It has to be the 7. So maybe this is the beginning of the Jock Madden generation. I hope he kills it .


Yes, I hope he sees this opportunity as the beginning of his career. He’ll bring the house down if he does. Brooks is the one in the team with a beautiful passing game though. I think Madge is trying to ignite the backline, so wouldn’t surprise me to see Brooks at 6 when Madden comes on?

What do you reckon ?

I reckon he'll see how it goes during the game but I personally think Madden is there for Brooks to get hooked.

Mbye will have his best game of the year so far at 6... natural runner, can play his most suited game.

Brooks will dish up the same old performance and get hooked in the last 20 for madden.

My prediction at least.

 

[Demps]

Mbye is an "athlete" but he's definitely not a footballer...

Heard this mentioned about him a bunch of times.

One guy who always looks like his heart just isn't in it.

A few QLDers in the SoO camp think he is a 6, and have been critical of Dogs and WT for playing him out of position.
I personally think it’s a good idea for a young player to play many different positions while learning the game, but it’s a must to settle and specialise at an early stage if you’re going to reach peak performance. Mbye has moved around so much that he is average at all positions but not really good at one. It’s interesting that Blues selectors wouldn’t dream of playing Teddy anywhere but one, while T Turbo would be slotted in at 2,3,4 or 5?

That's weird because they too played in the centres and off the bench.

I don't hate Mbye but I don't think he was a well thought out signing for the tigers.
We all know that, Ivan the stooges recruitment was absolutely woeful.

 

[happy_tiger]

Expect changes ...lots of them I hope

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .


I think it’s more likely Madden comes on for Mbye, pushing Brooks to 6?

Hopefully . I think the messaging coming out of the club, has started to shift towards the idea that brooks isn’t and can’t be the lead voice on the field , and as others have said , you can’t have your 6 be that person . It has to be the 7. So maybe this is the beginning of the Jock Madden generation. I hope he kills it .


Yes, I hope he sees this opportunity as the beginning of his career. He’ll bring the house down if he does. Brooks is the one in the team with a beautiful passing game though. I think Madge is trying to ignite the backline, so wouldn’t surprise me to see Brooks at 6 when Madden comes on?

What do you reckon ?

I reckon he'll see how it goes during the game but I personally think Madden is there for Brooks to get hooked.

Mbye will have his best game of the year so far at 6... natural runner, can play his most suited game.

Brooks will dish up the same old performance and get hooked in the last 20 for madden.

My prediction at least.

Dunno man .I’ve been way too loyal to brooks , I know that , so I will be sad to see him to go, but we can’t keep going backwards, and if it means the spine are all 22 and under , and we roll with that moving forward , then I’m down . Whatever it takes. In saying that I think brooks will go well with another team