OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

[Tiger5150]

Who is the bigger tanker?

Compare the pair....Moses in his last game v Mbye yesterday....







Mbye 3 x as many runs for almost 4 x as many metres. Moses never even got tackled. Moses missed 9 tackles to Mbyes 3.

Mbye isnt even Moses league as a tanker, but he still has time.

Good post 5150 : argument settled then.


I dont think its a glowing endorsement for Mbye that he is a slightly less worse tanker than the GOAT.

But your stats seem to show him in quite a good way, particularly in comparison to the GOATT.

Slightly less of a tanker than Mitchell Moses is not a KPI I'd encourage.

 

[Merlot]

SHOULD NEVER SEE FIRST GRADE AGAIN. AT THIS STAGE, ANYONE IS BETTER THAN THIS OVERPAID, OVERRATED, BLUDGER. HE HAS HAD ENOUGH CHANCES TO PROVE HIMSELF AND HE HAS PROVEN HIMSELF A FAILURE.

WoW!!! are you sure of what you are saying :wink: ?

FENCE sitter lol

 

[Spartan117]

Yeah. Still nope.

 

[Blake]

Can someone be pleas provide a breakdown on Moses Mybes defensive efforts vs Souths.

Any reasonable fan who watches it will come to the same conclusion as those calling him out for tanking.

Collectively he was utter garbage and not trying. The guy dogged it.

The guy has a knee injury, if he can't change direction to tackle, he should not be on the field.

 

[TrueTiger]

Can someone be pleas provide a breakdown on Moses Mybes defensive efforts vs Souths.

Any reasonable fan who watches it will come to the same conclusion as those calling him out for tanking.

Collectively he was utter garbage and not trying. The guy dogged it.

The guy has a knee injury, if he can't change direction to tackle, he should not be on the field.

And that says a lot about the depth....plenty of hopefuls but not NRL proven yet ....a sad truth of the youth not being ready....

 

[jirskyr]

Mbye 3 x as many runs for almost 4 x as many metres. Moses never even got tackled. Moses missed 9 tackles to Mbyes 3.
Mbye isnt even Moses league as a tanker, but he still has time.

Oh that Mitch Moses game is the all-time tank. Only time in my life I thought a player played badly on purpose. Just refused to tackle. Even my Souths brother-in-law messaged me to ask what the deal with Moses was.

Hated the bloke ever since.

On the other hand I think Mbye does try, he's just lost all semblance of confidence. The bloke has played grand finals and Origin, but 2021 Mbye is a shadow of anything he was.

 

[Tigerboy]

Mbye 3 x as many runs for almost 4 x as many metres. Moses never even got tackled. Moses missed 9 tackles to Mbyes 3.
Mbye isnt even Moses league as a tanker, but he still has time.

Oh that Mitch Moses game is the all-time tank. Only time in my life I thought a player played badly on purpose. Just refused to tackle. Even my Souths brother-in-law messaged me to ask what the deal with Moses was.

Hated the bloke ever since.

On the other hand I think Mbye does try, he's just lost all semblance of confidence. The bloke has played grand finals and Origin, but 2021 Mbye is a shadow of anything he was.

All of our players are shadows

 

[sheer64]

NO - bye

 

[twentyforty]

"Externally, all those little problems look like big issues in the group but from inside these walls, the group's been really good. A good way to judge the group will be how we respond this weekend against Souths." Mbye talking about the 66 point flogging.
He needs to go, he wants to go. That’s how it looks to me.

 

[sleeve]

May be wrong, but from my memory most of the defensive issues are caused from Luciano Leilua but Moses usually shows zero effort and is totally uncooperative in helping with any cover defence. I honestly saw him twice yesterday just watching the Bunnies player run through/past him.
I believe the earlier suggestion that there's possibly a current injury (for Luciano) restricting him a fair bit but that his fitness and ability to play a full 80 minutes is also a problem, this year.
But yeah I agree with everyone else about that side being the team's biggest headache.

Good guy or not it's totally unacceptable IMO. He's not even willing to lift a finger and no way should it be rewarded.
If a player is struggling I'd like to see their teammates help them. I know they never had the best game but I noticed how Tamou and Twal helped Liddle with the defensive load. The team needs to come together, not stand back and watch.

It is totally abhorrent.. Joey even said it’s under 12s bad defence, he has no commitment to put his body in the contest…. He could care less about the Tigers and their fans….Deplorable actually because he gas all the natural talent , skill and ability needed to be Kalyn Ponga like.. Mbye is quick, strong, has good hands and is experienced but he refuses to put his body on the line or to have a go….. even his passes are hesitant and offputting ….. he is just a passenger and Madge picks him? This us the real problem, that Madge continues to pick a player that is so lacking commitment and desire for success on the field… Madge has no defence, picking a player playing this bad reflects incredibly poorly on his coaching ability ..it is that plain and simple

Picking Mbye weekly, would have a negative effect on the whole side. Iv'e said this previously, one bad apple is all it takes to poison the batch. Why Madge kept playing him is a mystery, even Madden would have added enthusiasm, and the results would not have been worse.

 

[The_Patriot]

Is the problem because we didnt let him join the Saints earlier in the season?

 

[Demps]

Keen to see what everyone thinks...If he goes, we would he paying a large amount of his salary and would have to replace him with someone better on minimum salary to justify it.

Do we keep him at 5/8 with Brooks playing decently having him there or do we let him go?

Major problem keeping him is we probably lose Doueihi...

No

On his effort last night I'd say he has a new club already

Good riddance.
?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Is the problem because we didnt let him join the Saints earlier in the season?

Brings me back to what I said earlier. If he had a window to let him go, we should have. This year was already on life support.

 

[tig_prmz]

Hypothetically if mybe agreed to split his 800k contract into 400k with and extra year with us in 23, would you guys take him for a extra year if it mean we split his contract amount in half?


400k - 2022
400k -2023

Pro - his contract is halved
Negative - he stays an extra year

If we won the next few games I wonder
What you guys would say..

Why would he play in 2023 for nothing?

If not us or even another NRL club, he will definitely get picked in Super League.

I've been one of Mbye's strongest supporters but he needs to leave ASAP and Douehi to 5/8.

 

[wonka]

Next year he will be sizzling , contract year.

 

[supercoach]

Bottom line is we probably will not be making the call. If he doesn’t get offered a good contract elsewhere, and that’s on the cards, he will not be going anywhere. Most clubs seem to have their 6 and 7 pretty settled for next year and I doubt there is little demand for him on a mid range contract.

Just like the Packer Reynolds thing we may have some big names in reserve grade next year, Tamou and Reynolds come to mind

 

[jrtiger]

his value has gone down exponentially after these two losses. the Gold Coast seems like the most logical option, given they're running with Clark as their starting 9 and they're about to get rid of Taylor, but at this point M'Bye's playing like Milford.

 

[DJG]

his value has gone down exponentially after these two losses. the Gold Coast seems like the most logical option, given they're running with Clark as their starting 9 and they're about to get rid of Taylor, but at this point M'Bye's playing like Milford.

Would rather Milford.

 

[jrtiger]

his value has gone down exponentially after these two losses. the Gold Coast seems like the most logical option, given they're running with Clark as their starting 9 and they're about to get rid of Taylor, but at this point M'Bye's playing like Milford.

Would rather Milford.

don't say that, with the Ayoub connection that's currently going on he's probably about to sign a 5 year, $5 million deal.

 

[DJG]

his value has gone down exponentially after these two losses. the Gold Coast seems like the most logical option, given they're running with Clark as their starting 9 and they're about to get rid of Taylor, but at this point M'Bye's playing like Milford.

Would rather Milford.

don't say that, with the Ayoub connection that's currently going on he's probably about to sign a 5 year, $5 million deal.

Hahahha.. please no!

Knowing Madge and Co, we wont sign him.

But.... if we had a desperate new coach - we would sign Milf on that sort of $$