OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

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It’s a matter of when not if now. Cleary has mentioned we have room for this year so it may be here soon. Probably hear something on Monday or Tuesday

Safe assumption.
 
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Most players have good games and bad games. On the average over a season if they're more often good than bad that's about as much as you can hope for. He's not going to be the next immortal but he's a very good player. If we based all our signings on player's worst games we'd never sign anyone.

I disagree I think a lot of our signings over the years were based on their worst games…

Mbye not one of them tho..
 
Knew this thread would come along if he had an average game and we won.

He's far better the Lolo and Thompson at fullback. Both those guys were not considered good enough for the NRL this time last year.

It's hard to stand out when his team has no attack, and as well as being a fullback he has to do most of the kicking because Foran is broken down. He'll suit our style much better.
 
Every day that he remains at the dogs, their cap situation is a couple of grand or so worse off. Same with any of the other highly paid players that are blocking recruitment of a better balanced roster.
 
It’s been obvious for 3 or 4 days. No subtle grins from Ivan or thumbs up from Mbye to the Tigers members need to confirm that.

I’m already looking past him and waiting to see who else we pick up. Granville and Kelly hopefully.
 
It’s been obvious for 3 or 4 days. No subtle grins from Ivan or thumbs up from Mbye to the Tigers members need to confirm that.

I’m already looking past him and waiting to see who else we pick up. Granville and Kelly hopefully.
 
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Speaking of their halves, Foran, what is doing? From marquee man to nothing. No organisation, no flare, no threat.

His body is shot, hobbled off at half time like a 60 year old.
Great buy for the Dogs just like Sharron.
 
Wests Tigers have cap space to lure Mbye now: Cleary
Author Dan Walsh Timestamp Sun 27 May 2018, 08:17 PM

Ivan Cleary has confirmed the Wests Tigers have the salary cap space to accommodate a mid-season signing such as Moses Mbye while refusing to close the door on Aaron Woods returning to his junior club. Cleary remained coy on reports linking the big-name Bulldogs pair to Concord, but he didn't exactly pour cold water on the suggestions after a gritty 14-10 defeat of Canterbury on Sunday.

Mbye and Woods are the two latest blue and white stars linked to an exit from Belmore due to the club's salary cap woes.
Despite being contracted until the end of 2020, Mbye is expected to link with the Tigers on a three-year deal from next year within the next fortnight, as revealed by NRL.com over the weekend.

Asked whether Cleary could add Mbye his current roster before the June 30 cut-off, the Tigers coach said: "We're always looking for good players, we're always looking. "Anyone involved in an NRL club will tell you, it's the way our competition works and with the transfer set-up, it's on all the time." "You're always looking at players - whether you're going to keep them, whether you're going to look at someone else. This week will be no different to any other week."

He also declared the Tigers had a reasonable amount of cap space free in 2018 given the massive player turnover since Cleary arrived a little over 12 months ago. Whether the Bulldogs would be willing to release Mbye could hinge on any freight needing to be paid on his heavily back-ended deal.

Questions around Woods' future have surfaced once more, just six months into four-year Bulldogs deal understood to be worth over $3 million. While a Tigers return would seem unlikely given the club recruited Russell Packer and Ben Matulino following Woods' exit, Cleary couldn't have been more impressed with the big man's conduct as he left the joint-venture.

"We're pretty OK in that position. But as a person and a player, of course," Cleary said of Woods. "When I got here there was lots of things going on players possibly leaving and Woodsy was one of those … from the time that he made a decision to go to the Bulldogs, the rest of the year I thought he played really well and I really enjoyed his company and enjoyed what he added to the team."

Woods rejected media requests after the four-point loss, compounding a rough week for the 27-year-old in which he lost his NSW Blues spot after a five-year tenure.
 
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Speaking of their halves, Foran, what is doing? From marquee man to nothing. No organisation, no flare, no threat.

His body is shot, hobbled off at half time like a 60 year old.
Great buy for the Dogs just like Sharron.

Walks with the same bow-legged swagger as Peter Sterling after 200 games. He looks broken.
 
Wests Tigers have cap space to lure Mbye now: Cleary
Dan Walsh Timestamp Sun 27 May 2018, 08:17 PM

Ivan Cleary has confirmed the Wests Tigers have the salary cap space to accommodate a mid-season signing such as Moses Mbye while refusing to close the door on Aaron Woods returning to his junior club.

Cleary remained coy on reports linking the big-name Bulldogs pair to Concord, but he didn't exactly pour cold water on the suggestions after a gritty 14-10 defeat of Canterbury on Sunday.

Mbye and Woods are the two latest blue and white stars linked to an exit from Belmore due to the club's salary cap woes.

Despite being contracted until the end of 2020, Mbye is expected to link with the Tigers on a three-year deal from next year within the next fortnight, as revealed by NRL.com over the weekend.

Asked whether Cleary could add Mbye his current roster before the June 30 cut-off, the Tigers coach said: "We're always looking for good players, we're always looking.

"Anyone involved in an NRL club will tell you, it's the way our competition works and with the transfer set-up, it's on all the time.

"You're always looking at players - whether you're going to keep them, whether you're going to look at someone else. This week will be no different to any other week."

He also declared the Tigers had a reasonable amount of cap space free in 2018 given the massive player turnover since Cleary arrived a little over 12 months ago.

Whether the Bulldogs would be willing to release Mbye could hinge on any freight needing to be paid on his heavily back-ended deal.

Questions around Woods' future have surfaced once more, just six months into four-year Bulldogs deal understood to be worth over $3 million.

While a Tigers return would seem unlikely given the club recruited Russell Packer and Ben Matulino following Woods' exit, Cleary couldn't have been more impressed with the big man's conduct as he left the joint-venture.

"We're pretty OK in that position. But as a person and a player, of course," Cleary said of Woods.

"When I got here there was lots of things going on players possibly leaving and Woodsy was one of those … from the time that he made a decision to go to the Bulldogs, the rest of the year I thought he played really well and I really enjoyed his company and enjoyed what he added to the team."

Woods rejected media requests after the four-point loss, compounding a rough week for the 27-year-old in which he lost his NSW Blues spot after a five-year tenure.
 
Is anyone a little nervous about this signing?

Don’t get me wrong I think he’s got a lot of potential and talent. He’s got plenty of speed, footwork and his time in the halves has benefited his passing and kicking game. He also seems to have a good attitude and head on his shoulders.

I just can’t get my around is he better then Tui or Thompson? All have similar traits to their game and are fairly similar players. All are also pretty untested at fullback.

Tui probably has a bit more x-factor than Thompson, but Thompson is ever improving and has been safe as a bank at fullback. Thompson just lacks that passing game in the backline that modern day fullbacks need.

Unless Tigers have picked Mbye up for about $500k per year then I really can’t really see the value or think he will make much difference then our current options. He might be a slightly better player than Tui and Thompson, but is Mbye going to be a real game breaker for us in comparison?
 
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It’s been obvious for 3 or 4 days. No subtle grins from Ivan or thumbs up from Mbye to the Tigers members need to confirm that.

I’m already looking past him and waiting to see who else we pick up. Granville and Kelly hopefully.

I know of the Kelly news but where has the Granville stuff come from?
 
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It’s been obvious for 3 or 4 days. No subtle grins from Ivan or thumbs up from Mbye to the Tigers members need to confirm that.

I’m already looking past him and waiting to see who else we pick up. Granville and Kelly hopefully.

I know of the Kelly news but where has the Granville stuff come from?

Kelly is pretty much a done deal. Buggered if Granville is coming.
 
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Is anyone a little nervous about this signing?

Don’t get me wrong I think he’s got a lot of potential and talent. He’s got plenty of speed, footwork and his time in the halves has benefited his passing and kicking game. He also seems to have a good attitude and head on his shoulders.

I just can’t get my around is he better then Tui or Thompson? All have similar traits to their game and are fairly similar players. All are also pretty untested at fullback.

Tui probably has a bit more x-factor than Thompson, but Thompson is ever improving and has been safe as a bank at fullback. Thompson just lacks that passing game in the backline that modern day fullbacks need.

Unless Tigers have picked Mbye up for about $500k per year then I really can’t really see the value or think he will make much difference then our current options. He might be a slightly better player than Tui and Thompson, but is Mbye going to be a real game breaker for us in comparison?

Not worried in the slightest. For all of Tui's upside, I don't think he's a genuine fullback. I reckon Mbye will complement our style of play moreseo than Tui.
 
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Is anyone a little nervous about this signing?

Don’t get me wrong I think he’s got a lot of potential and talent. He’s got plenty of speed, footwork and his time in the halves has benefited his passing and kicking game. He also seems to have a good attitude and head on his shoulders.

I just can’t get my around is he better then Tui or Thompson? All have similar traits to their game and are fairly similar players. All are also pretty untested at fullback.

Tui probably has a bit more x-factor than Thompson, but Thompson is ever improving and has been safe as a bank at fullback. Thompson just lacks that passing game in the backline that modern day fullbacks need.

Unless Tigers have picked Mbye up for about $500k per year then I really can’t really see the value or think he will make much difference then our current options. He might be a slightly better player than Tui and Thompson, but is Mbye going to be a real game breaker for us in comparison?

Not worried in the slightest. For all of Tui's upside, I don't think he's a genuine fullback. I reckon Mbye will complement our style of play moreseo than Tui.

I'm surprised by this Willow. I thought you would be the kind of person critical of this signing.
 
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Is anyone a little nervous about this signing?

Don’t get me wrong I think he’s got a lot of potential and talent. He’s got plenty of speed, footwork and his time in the halves has benefited his passing and kicking game. He also seems to have a good attitude and head on his shoulders.

I just can’t get my around is he better then Tui or Thompson? All have similar traits to their game and are fairly similar players. All are also pretty untested at fullback.

Tui probably has a bit more x-factor than Thompson, but Thompson is ever improving and has been safe as a bank at fullback. Thompson just lacks that passing game in the backline that modern day fullbacks need.

Unless Tigers have picked Mbye up for about $500k per year then I really can’t really see the value or think he will make much difference then our current options. He might be a slightly better player than Tui and Thompson, but is Mbye going to be a real game breaker for us in comparison?

Not worried in the slightest. For all of Tui's upside, I don't think he's a genuine fullback. I reckon Mbye will complement our style of play moreseo than Tui.

I'm surprised by this Willow. I thought you would be the kind of person critical of this signing.

No idea why you would think that.
 
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