Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread

[jirskyr]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

He should be a leader in our pack. He hits hard and appears to have a great attitude. I think he was the Australian schoolboys captain. I'm assuming he isn't going to get into trouble ala Suli or someone like that. If not let's have him playing big minutes and starting.

Yeah he’s a natural leader. Captained the last NSW under 18s side

To put into perspective the last 2 captains that did that were Cam Murray and Payne Haas so quite the pedigree. Too bad he’ll leave us, any smart future prospect would leave this train wreck

Certainly upbeat aren't you?

 

[Russell]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

 

[Speed2burn]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

He should be a leader in our pack. He hits hard and appears to have a great attitude. I think he was the Australian schoolboys captain. I'm assuming he isn't going to get into trouble ala Suli or someone like that. If not let's have him playing big minutes and starting.

Yeah he’s a natural leader. Captained the last NSW under 18s side

To put into perspective the last 2 captains that did that were Cam Murray and Payne Haas so quite the pedigree. Too bad he’ll leave us, any smart future prospect would leave this train wreck

Certainly upbeat aren't you?

I’ve been very upbeat. Even after the warriors game I thought it was more of a case they played very well more than us being bad

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

 

[jirskyr]

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

So then you aren't upbeat any longer.

Saying "player X is going to leave us in the future, of course he would, we suck" or similar; I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's a pointless comment, even for a forum, it cannot be discussed or debated because it's so fatalistic.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

 

[Russell]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

 

[Speed2burn]

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

So then you aren't upbeat any longer.

Saying "player X is going to leave us in the future, of course he would, we suck" or similar; I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's a pointless comment, even for a forum, it cannot be discussed or debated because it's so fatalistic.

That’s not very upbeat of you

 

[avocadoontoast]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

He made 37 tackles but don't know our possession, we had 47% for the game.

He touched the ball 5 times the entire game.

 

[jirskyr]

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

So then you aren't upbeat any longer.

Saying "player X is going to leave us in the future, of course he would, we suck" or similar; I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's a pointless comment, even for a forum, it cannot be discussed or debated because it's so fatalistic.

That’s not very upbeat of you

Nice try

 

[Russell]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

He made 37 tackles but don't know our possession, we had 47% for the game.

He touched the ball 5 times the entire game.

Firstly Avo, thanks for the info, Well 37 tackles is not bad, however......

Apart from pushing Mbye out of DH or a one on one strip of the ball off the
opposition I'm not sure how he could get the ball to increase his hitups.

You think it funny - but he made himself available to get the ball, what else
could he do?

You say don't blame Mbye - he is the man with the ball, who else should we
blame?

 

[avocadoontoast]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

He made 37 tackles but don't know our possession, we had 47% for the game.

He touched the ball 5 times the entire game.

Firstly Avo, thanks for the info, Well 37 tackles is not bad, however......

Apart from pushing Mbye out of DH or a one on one strip of the ball off the
opposition I'm not sure how he could get the ball to increase his hitups.

You think it funny - but he made himself available to get the ball, what else
could he do?

You say don't blame Mbye - he is the man with the ball, who else should we
blame?

Are you suggesting there is a conspiracy to deprive Packer from getting the ball?

 

[Geo]

To go with his 4 runs NRL has Packer down for 4 decoy runs in 55 minutes..so you can double his input in attack..

Eisenhuth had 10..

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Wests Tigers captain Moses Mbye is reportedly free to leave the club as it struggles to break a decade-long finals drought.

The Sydney Morning Herald reported that Wests Tigers would be prepared to pay half Mbye's $800,000 per season salary for the next two years if he was offloaded to a rival team, with the Gold Coast Titans interested.

Mbye is a Queensland State of Origin representative but is a big-money player in a team that looks doomed to again miss the finals. The Herald reported that the Tigers were also trying to offload Josh Reynolds, who is on a similar salary, to a Super League club.

Mbye was made captain by coach Michael Maguire last season but Benji Marshall was made co-captain this year. Maguire has clearly been frustrated by his team's sluggish progress and is looking to refresh the roster.
Wests Tigers co-captain Moses Mbye. (Getty)

Key to the club's thinking over Mbye, according to the Herald, is their hooker situation.

On-loan No.9 Harry Grant would become a free agent if Cameron Smith extends his career at Melbourne; or Brandon Smith may become available if Grant returns to the Storm as their first-choice hooker.

Mbye has been discussed as a hooker or five-eighth by the Titans. Having joined the Tigers in mid-2018, his versatility has been somewhat counter-productive to cementing a permanent, specific role in the team.

Now this is what i call clearing out the deadwood at the Club, i suspect he will try harder this week as now playing for a contract at another club.
Well done MADGE it shows you have the long term interests in place and know who is performing, will now put pressure on other players off contract in 2021.

 

[mike]

Aloiai in forward to get 100m


Packer 30

Blore 60

Anyone think Blore Still as good as the first game??

Metre stats are so misleading - needs to be taken in conjunction with possession percentage when certain players are on. Hard to get running metres if you only have 30% possession over a 10 - 15 minute period.

Stats are always misleading when taken in isolation. Stats are relative only to a context.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't like paying players to go elsewhere, but honestly we're paying this bloke $800-900K (depending on which papers you read,) to be a fill in. A player worth that sort of money should be your first picked in the spine every week. Madge could probably get more out of the $400K and roster spot he'll free up with him playing somewhere else than having him playing here.

 

[TonyTiger]

Can’t come soon enough but why is Mbye still Captain and selected each week - if you pick up a stray dog and feed it every day it won’t leave!

 

[rustycage]

Good decision if factual.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

I don't like paying players to go elsewhere, but honestly we're paying this bloke $800-900K (depending on which papers you read,) to be a fill in. A player worth that sort of money should be your first picked in the spine every week. Madge could probably get more out of the $400K and roster spot he'll free up with him playing somewhere else than having him playing here.

There is a mis-quote in the article he is on $950k per season, think the Tigers are embarrassed to state the exact figure, trying to off load him at $450k as he still has 2 years to run on his contract. Still will be paying $1 Million over the next 2 years for a very average player and captain.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Can’t come soon enough but why is Mbye still Captain and selected each week - if you pick up a stray dog and feed it every day it won’t leave!

If they don't pick him what Club will show interest in him, he is a good utility player at best and i think at $450k that will interest a few clubs.
Personally i would be playing him off the bench for the rest of the season.

 

[TonyTiger]

Can’t come soon enough but why is Mbye still Captain and selected each week - if you pick up a stray dog and feed it every day it won’t leave!


If they don't pick him what Club will show interest in him, he is a good utility player at best and i think at $450k that will interest a few clubs.
Personally i would be playing him off the bench for the rest of the season.

Normally I would agree with you however by playing him each week it shows up what he’s not worth, his value is depreciating rapidly - nobody wants a lifeless body out there .. if Mbye was any good Ivan would be picking over the carcass!