New forwards needed for 2019

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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure
 
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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

Under 10’s crap
 
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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

Yeah like that only ever happens to us..twice…OMG
 
You cant critique a performance by discounting the opposition.
Ash Taylor quality half behind a great pack-so much better man for man than ours - 60% posession lopsided tackle count. They win.
Ryan, Procter, Arrow, Wallace, Hipgrave - please - would take all, or any of them.
Next year they will have Boyd as well!
 
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The sad part is these boys were holding their own against the best sides late last season and early this season its sad seeing it go bad again.

It seems to me that the team has lost the confidence that they had during the early part of the season,panic plays,trying for the miracle to happen and then digging a bigger hole for themselves that they cant get out of because they lack the intimidation factor that other teams have..
In other words they drop the bundle instead of playing sensible football and doing the basic things right first and foremost…
at this level,losing possesion,bad passing and poor play the balls should all be at a bare minimum or not at all...these errors were a constant against the Titans,they capitalised on them and our guys couldnt recover...

I think its a combination of benji being injured and was playing injured. Ive been saying he was the real game manager those first few rounds.

I think the form is lost with all these changes cant see them finding it this season.

We one top line qld front rower short. Who do we target.

I agree with you nucky in regards to Benji being a good game manager,however we have all been told that this is Brooks team,he should be managing and controlling much better than he is…maybe he is lacking confidence because Benji is not there...granted the forwards arent delivering and it makes it slightly more difficult for him to produce good outcomes..but I think his kicking and last tackle options have to improve more for this level of football..

He struggles with simplifying the game and game management always has and alwsys will by the look of it.

I wish nathan would let everyone know what his doing doesn't look too happy at Panthers
 
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The sad part is these boys were holding their own against the best sides late last season and early this season its sad seeing it go bad again.

We need to find out what the Bugess brothers (Tom and George) did to turn it around. Probably best front row going around this year.

Identified that they needed different training because of their personal physical strengths/weaknesses and customised regimes. At least that's the physical side.
 
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You cant critique a performance by discounting the opposition.
Ash Taylor quality half behind a great pack-so much better man for man than ours - 60% posession lopsided tackle count. They win.
Ryan, Procter, Arrow, Wallace, Hipgrave - please - would take all, or any of them.
Next year they will have Boyd as well!

They were behind us on the ladder before sunday, they are now equal with us, 3 weeks ago they were favourites for the spoon. They are no world beaters
 
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You cant critique a performance by discounting the opposition.
Ash Taylor quality half behind a great pack-so much better man for man than ours - 60% posession lopsided tackle count. They win.
Ryan, Procter, Arrow, Wallace, Hipgrave - please - would take all, or any of them.
Next year they will have Boyd as well!

They were behind us on the ladder before sunday, they are now equal with us, 3 weeks ago they were favourites for the spoon. They are no world beaters

Not suggesting they are world beaters 851 but they do have a great pack and a very good half. Our pack seems to have hit a brick wall and would have trouble matching them with an even share of posession, let alone having only 40%.
We are going to struggle against every team we play in our current form especially if we end up in a position of having 40% possession and forwards not making metres.
Our backs arnt great but they have a crack.The forwards however just seem to be getting dominated every week of late - and not sure how we combat that. We have tried all the options to little effect. Thats all.
 
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You cant critique a performance by discounting the opposition.
Ash Taylor quality half behind a great pack-so much better man for man than ours - 60% posession lopsided tackle count. They win.
Ryan, Procter, Arrow, Wallace, Hipgrave - please - would take all, or any of them.
Next year they will have Boyd as well!

They were behind us on the ladder before sunday, they are now equal with us, 3 weeks ago they were favourites for the spoon. They are no world beaters

Not suggesting they are world beaters 851 but they do have a great pack and a very good half. Our pack seems to have hit a brick wall and would have trouble matching them with an even share of posession, let alone having only 40%.
We are going to struggle against every team we play in our current form especially if we end up in a position of having 40% possession and forwards not making metres.
Our backs arnt great but they have a crack.The forwards however just seem to be getting dominated every week of late - and not sure how we combat that. We have tried all the options to little effect. Thats all.

Granted our forwards are not lighting it up, but the backs dropped plenty of ball that would have given us an even share of possesion, we are not good enough to give away cheap penalties and cheap possession from dropped ball.
And the very good half you mention is not as old or as experienced as Brooks, go figure, our problems are many, Mbye and Farah addressed 2, just hope we can fix the rest mate
 
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You cant critique a performance by discounting the opposition.
Ash Taylor quality half behind a great pack-so much better man for man than ours - 60% posession lopsided tackle count. They win.
Ryan, Procter, Arrow, Wallace, Hipgrave - please - would take all, or any of them.
Next year they will have Boyd as well!

They were behind us on the ladder before sunday, they are now equal with us, 3 weeks ago they were favourites for the spoon. They are no world beaters

Not suggesting they are world beaters 851 but they do have a great pack and a very good half. Our pack seems to have hit a brick wall and would have trouble matching them with an even share of posession, let alone having only 40%.
We are going to struggle against every team we play in our current form especially if we end up in a position of having 40% possession and forwards not making metres.
Our backs arnt great but they have a crack.The forwards however just seem to be getting dominated every week of late - and not sure how we combat that. We have tried all the options to little effect. Thats all.

Granted our forwards are not lighting it up, but the backs dropped plenty of ball that would have given us an even share of possesion, we are not good enough to give away cheap penalties and cheap possession from dropped ball.
And the very good half you mention is not as old or as experienced as Brooks, go figure, our problems are many, Mbye and Farah addressed 2, just hope we can fix the rest mate

Me too - just starting to feel like ground hog day. Same old same old.
Another week off might do some good.
 
Wests Tigers are certainly short on the intimidation factor and all of our oppositions thrive on it. The last intimidator we had was Gareth Ellis. This year we thought we struck the jackpot with Packer but now we know the unpalatable outcome of that purchase. We desperately need a genuine intimidator. Even someone like Dylan Napa would be accepted with open arms
 
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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

No but the coach might. Its happening way way too often to be poor play. More like instruction to run it on the last if within 10 of the tryline
 
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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

No but the coach might. Its happening way way too often to be poor play. More like instruction to run it on the last if within 10 of the tryline

Roosters and Storm do it a lot… other teams though not as much as well...rather than the risk of giving up a 2nd tackle set..but what would they know..better to turn the ball over and have the opposition tough it out ...

Once it was an obvious play..the second time it was the wrong option as he tried to use his speed to get on the outside of the centre.. but a kick would have been better
 
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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

No but the coach might. Its happening way way too often to be poor play. More like instruction to run it on the last if within 10 of the tryline

Roosters and Storm do it a lot… other teams though not as much as well...rather than the risk of giving up a 2nd tackle set..but what would they know..better to turn the ball over and have the opposition tough it out ...

Once it was an obvious play..the second time it was the wrong option as he tried to use his speed to get on the outside of the centre.. but a kick would have been better
 
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Wests Tigers are certainly short on the intimidation factor and all of our oppositions thrive on it. The last intimidator we had was Gareth Ellis. This year we thought we struck the jackpot with Packer but now we know the unpalatable outcome of that purchase. We desperately need a genuine intimidator. Even someone like Dylan Napa would be accepted with open arms

No intimidation. Rubbish teams are shit scared of Taylor.

They are afraid they are going to send him to the HIA again.

Poor guys is struggling this year. Makes plenty of tackles but no go forward, looks lost out there sometimes too. If we keep him I think it should be for depth.

Packer needs come off the bench, we need a starting prop.
 
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How is the best Half arguably ever going at controlling the game this year behind a pack of plodders…?

The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

No but the coach might. Its happening way way too often to be poor play. More like instruction to run it on the last if within 10 of the tryline

Roosters and Storm do it a lot… other teams though not as much as well...rather than the risk of giving up a 2nd tackle set..but what would they know..better to turn the ball over and have the opposition tough it out ...

Once it was an obvious play..the second time it was the wrong option as he tried to use his speed to get on the outside of the centre.. but a kick would have been better

There was a third in the game, wasnt Brooks but another player. All seem to result in the opposition being pinned in a corner on the first.

Not a fan of it myself if its a tactic.
 
Having watched the last two debacles, it seems that our confidence is shot to bits. Firstly we need to hold the ball and not kick on the 3rd and 4th tackles; we need to keep the ball in hand and just can't afford to give the opposition free tackles. Secondly, it would help a great deal if our forwards played with a bit of depth instead of trying to get some momentum going over 3 or 4 metres. Run on to the ball boys!

It's very much like watching schoolboys when they are being beaten; they all seem to huddle together. As Frank Hyde used to say, :Ahhhh, you could throw a blanket over them!"
 
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Hipgrave &' Terapo will do to start with , Hpgrave brings aggression , both play hard

Hipgrave is staying with the Titans. Terapo averages 104 meters from a average of 10 hit ups a game and has a tackle efficiency of 93%.
 
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The plodder forward pack had nothing to do with Brooks being caught twice with the ball on the 5 th go figure

No but the coach might. Its happening way way too often to be poor play. More like instruction to run it on the last if within 10 of the tryline

Roosters and Storm do it a lot… other teams though not as much as well...rather than the risk of giving up a 2nd tackle set..but what would they know..better to turn the ball over and have the opposition tough it out ...

Once it was an obvious play..the second time it was the wrong option as he tried to use his speed to get on the outside of the centre.. but a kick would have been better

There was a third in the game, wasnt Brooks but another player. All seem to result in the opposition being pinned in a corner on the first.

Not a fan of it myself if its a tactic.

It would be negligent to say to your half dont worry about kicking for repeat set just run it and get tackled
 

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