New officiating will ruin the grand final

[tigerbalm]

Teddy has to stop falling into tackles

How is he sent to the sin bin for a high tackle that would have been a perfect tackle if Tedesco doesn’t slip a fraction of a second before contact. Absolute joke!!!!!

To be fair, the rule is, on field / bunker just to rule on contact, not circumstances. Match review to decide on any other mitigating circumstances.

Obviously the NRL wants to stamp out contact with the head and by making the rule black and white ( head gets 10, head with intent off) it makes it easy for on field officials to rule on quickly and here can be no "grey" area.

I think what will be interesting is all these cases now at MRC and how a falling Teddy scores vs the dragon player that got sent. Very different tackles so should be two very different outcomes. Should be.

Agree with what you’ve said but ..
With Tede$co falling into a tackle the ON FIELD ramifications are HUGE ...
13 v 12 or 13 v 10

**On field common sense has been thrown out the window..**

100%. But we all know that wont happen so the NRL has taken it away from the muppets on field to make any common sense calls.

I think I read it on here, but someone suggested both shorter sin bins and if the team who was fouled score, the player is released from the bin. This would minimize the fallout from player being binned for a soft penalty.

Dunno what the answer is but ultimately the NRL are never going to go back on this now.

 

[Tiger Tarl]

There will be some adjustment but I think they need to stick to their guns.

One interesting side development this year, WT seem to have very few players go to tribunal and not many injuries either. We may give away penalties but we're one of the least grubby teams and our conditioning program seems to be working...

 

[jrtiger]

I actually agree with Robinson's take on things. The first couple games they got it wrong, but as time went on, they got it right and refined it. easiest way to enforce a rule change quickly is to sit people down for it. players can still get whacked providing the tackler's technique is strong, look at Blore for example, or a Jaydn Su'a (most tackles, I know he was sat down this week).

All the sendoffs were fair in my view. A couple of the binnings were wrong, but they'll sort that out soon enough. it has to come to a stop if we're serious about this game lasting another 100 years.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

I actually agree with Robinson's take on things. The first couple games they got it wrong, but as time went on, they got it right and refined it. easiest way to enforce a rule change quickly is to sit people down for it. players can still get whacked providing the tackler's technique is strong, look at Blore for example, or a Jaydn Su'a (most tackles, I know he was sat down this week).

All the sendoffs were fair in my view. A couple of the binnings were wrong, but they'll sort that out soon enough. it has to come to a stop if we're serious about this game lasting another 100 years.

I’m in the Robinson camp on this as well. Everyone needs to calm down and give it a few weeks to settle down. Everyone is adjusting and the media just want to jump up and down about how disgraceful it is. Once players start adjusting their technique and referees have adjusted their interruptions (as we have already seen) it will be fine.

Got to agree with Bennett as well the stopped the game to go back 4,5 or 6 plays is ridiculous and should be stopped immediately unless it is extreme foul play.

 

[jrtiger]

I actually agree with Robinson's take on things. The first couple games they got it wrong, but as time went on, they got it right and refined it. easiest way to enforce a rule change quickly is to sit people down for it. players can still get whacked providing the tackler's technique is strong, look at Blore for example, or a Jaydn Su'a (most tackles, I know he was sat down this week).

All the sendoffs were fair in my view. A couple of the binnings were wrong, but they'll sort that out soon enough. it has to come to a stop if we're serious about this game lasting another 100 years.

I’m in the Robinson camp on this as well. Everyone needs to calm down and give it a few weeks to settle down. Everyone is adjusting and the media just want to jump up and down about how disgraceful it is. Once players start adjusting their technique and referees have adjusted their interruptions (as we have already seen) it will be fine.

Got to agree with Bennett as well the stopped the game to go back 4,5 or 6 plays is ridiculous and should be stopped immediately unless it is extreme foul play.

we survived the end of the shoulder charge. if anything it's going to help us moving forward. who doesn't love a Gillmeister-esque tackling technique? that's how tackles should be made.

 

[weststigers]

Having played both Union and League, I can say, hand on my heart, I maybe went high on someone once in 20 years. I hung the arm out and collared him around the neck as a reflex action.

I think players can adapt, but they made the point that tackling around the legs ends up penalising the defending side because the play the ball is quicker. Also, a good legs tackle will leave the defender behind the play the ball effectively reducing your defensive line to 12, not to mention exposing you to an offload.

I think we can all agree that if a player is sent off, then that’s probably going to be game set and match for the team with 12 (depending on the score. I don’t want to see games decided over soft send offs.

I think a sin bin for accidental and a send off for deliberate is the right balance. I.e Joeys coat hanger on Edwards would be a send off, but Papalii’s this weekend would be 10 in the bin. It’s a massive penalty to lose a player for the whole game considering you might make 300 tackles and only 1 goes wrong. Maybe a warning system is the right way to go? Like soccer with yellow cards? We could have yellows, sin bins and send offs for referees to step up punishment for seriousness and repeat offenders.

 

[Merlot]

limit of 2 in a tackle,it usually turns bad with 3 in

 

[Merlot]

when did they slip in the rule if u r offside at the start of the play d ball,u r of side/out of play until next tackle,Lucie got pinned 4 it when we had a roll on

 

[Rugba]

I hated the clamp down , but it was needed , if they didn’t get lax over the past 20 so or years it wouldn’t have been an issue .

The admin in mid 2000s at fault for what they enforced , the year tigers won if they kept that interpretation, the wrestle and all the other shit since wouldn’t have occured and there would be a whole heap of sheens clones coaching rather than Bellamy clones

 

[Merlot]

I hated the clamp down , but it was needed , if they didn’t get lax over the past 20 so or years it wouldn’t have been an issue .

The admin in mid 2000s at fault for what they enforced , the year tigers won if they kept that interpretation, the wrestle and all the other shit since wouldn’t have occured and there would be a whole heap of sheens clones coaching rather than Bellamy clones

all the power/money clubs crushed that 2005 style of play the next year because they had the best bash/barge forward's in the game[no stamina]player's

 

[mike]

when did they slip in the rule if u r offside at the start of the play d ball,u r of side/out of play until next tackle,Lucie got pinned 4 it when we had a roll on

At least 2020, possibly earlier

**Out of Play**
A player from the team in possession is out of play if he does not “retire behind his own players involved in the play the ball or to their own goal line.”
An ‘out of play’ player may again participate in the play if he retreats to a position where he has both feet behind the point where the ball was placed on the ground in the prior play the ball.
Section 14 (1)
Where an ‘out of play’ player becomes involved in the ensuing play, he is to be penalised with the penalty being awarded in line with the previous play the ball, at the point where the player became out of play.

 

[Merlot]

when did they slip in the rule if u r offside at the start of the play d ball,u r of side/out of play until next tackle,Lucie got pinned 4 it when we had a roll on

At least 2020, possibly earlier

**Out of Play**
A player from the team in possession is out of play if he does not “retire behind his own players involved in the play the ball or to their own goal line.”
An ‘out of play’ player may again participate in the play if he retreats to a position where he has both feet behind the point where the ball was placed on the ground in the prior play the ball.
Section 14 (1)
Where an ‘out of play’ player becomes involved in the ensuing play, he is to be penalised with the penalty being awarded in line with the previous play the ball, at the point where the player became out of play.

WOW,it's bn run back behind ,or let it catch up 2 u.2 get back on side so i thought 4 the last 20 years.never seen it policed b4.thanks

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Teddy has to stop falling into tackles

How is he sent to the sin bin for a high tackle that would have been a perfect tackle if Tedesco doesn’t slip a fraction of a second before contact. Absolute joke!!!!!

To be fair, the rule is, on field / bunker just to rule on contact, not circumstances. Match review to decide on any other mitigating circumstances.

Obviously the NRL wants to stamp out contact with the head and by making the rule black and white ( head gets 10, head with intent off) it makes it easy for on field officials to rule on quickly and here can be no "grey" area.

I think what will be interesting is all these cases now at MRC and how a falling Teddy scores vs the dragon player that got sent. Very different tackles so should be two very different outcomes. Should be.

Agree with what you’ve said but ..
With Tede$co falling into a tackle the ON FIELD ramifications are HUGE ...
13 v 12 or 13 v 10

**On field common sense has been thrown out the window..**

100%. But we all know that wont happen so the NRL has taken it away from the muppets on field to make any common sense calls.

I think I read it on here, but someone suggested both shorter sin bins and if the team who was fouled score, the player is released from the bin. This would minimize the fallout from player being binned for a soft penalty.

Dunno what the answer is but ultimately the NRL are never going to go back on this now.

Remember the Souths game, if the LM was given 10min for elbow to Nofoaluma's head, and then sent off after he kicked Garner, the score would be different.
In the old system everyone else would gain accept the WT, the system did not punish immediayely serial pests like the LM.

 

[TYGA]

The new officiating is here to stay it was only a matter of time. People just don’t understand rugby league and the impacts of rule changes. You want people to tackle lower that will bring in spear tackles and concussion for defenders.
You speed up the game you get heavier collisions with defenders not set and off balance.

The smart play would be to recruit 6’5 forwards with an offload and quick play the ball. Good luck tackling Asofa Solomona low.

 

[Merlot]

baah humm bugg

 

[TheDaBoss]

So technically

That gagai and brooks punchup last year

Under new rules would be a send off plus like 7 week ban lol

 

[BalmainJnr]

So technically

That gagai and brooks punchup last year

Under new rules would be a send off plus like 7 week ban lol

Gagai would have been sent off for head butting Brooksie’s fist, no questions.

 

[Merlot]

and the crowd roared

 

[JD Tiger]

The new officiating is here to stay it was only a matter of time. People just don’t understand rugby league and the impacts of rule changes. You want people to tackle lower that will bring in spear tackles and concussion for defenders.
You speed up the game you get heavier collisions with defenders not set and off balance.

The smart play would be to recruit 6’5 forwards with an offload and quick play the ball. Good luck tackling Asofa Solomona low.

I don't think the new way of officiating will be anything more than a fad, which will blow over in a few weeks.

Your idea of a smart play is probably a good idea regardless though.

 

[tigerbalm]

Teddy has to stop falling into tackles

How is he sent to the sin bin for a high tackle that would have been a perfect tackle if Tedesco doesn’t slip a fraction of a second before contact. Absolute joke!!!!!

To be fair, the rule is, on field / bunker just to rule on contact, not circumstances. Match review to decide on any other mitigating circumstances.

Obviously the NRL wants to stamp out contact with the head and by making the rule black and white ( head gets 10, head with intent off) it makes it easy for on field officials to rule on quickly and here can be no "grey" area.

I think what will be interesting is all these cases now at MRC and how a falling Teddy scores vs the dragon player that got sent. Very different tackles so should be two very different outcomes. Should be.

Agree with what you’ve said but ..
With Tede$co falling into a tackle the ON FIELD ramifications are HUGE ...
13 v 12 or 13 v 10

**On field common sense has been thrown out the window..**

100%. But we all know that wont happen so the NRL has taken it away from the muppets on field to make any common sense calls.

I think I read it on here, but someone suggested both shorter sin bins and if the team who was fouled score, the player is released from the bin. This would minimize the fallout from player being binned for a soft penalty.

Dunno what the answer is but ultimately the NRL are never going to go back on this now.

Remember the Souths game, if the LM was given 10min for elbow to Nofoaluma's head, and then sent off after he kicked Garner, the score would be different.
In the old system everyone else would gain accept the WT, the system did not punish immediayely serial pests like the LM.

I agree, not sure what your point is sorry