NINES TEAM...OFFICIAL

GNR4LIFE · Jan 27, 2015

SJ to run riot.

underdog · Jan 27, 2015

Yes - once again tailor made for the Warriors to take out Can't think for the life of me why.. :mrgreen:
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Had another look through and you are right about the Sharks line-up too.

happy_tiger · Jan 28, 2015

Have we got a breakdown of when the Tigers actually play ??

Fox just has the complete time frame of when it is , no game breakdown

VanillaThunder · Jan 28, 2015

Hadn't really thought of it til I read Ava's column, but it seems like JT is using the 9s as a defensive test/lesson for the forwards.
Ava mentioned spacing in defence and general field awareness as his focuses for the tournament, and with our defensive deficiencies in the middle last year it would be a real area of concern.

Looking at it this way, he's thrown all the young forwards in the deep end of a small man's game, and if we are to make any sort of progress in the tournament, or at least take anything out of it, it would be on outstanding middle defence and consistent second phase play.

May be giving him too much credit but if things work out then we could be leaving Auckland with something more valuable than the prize money.

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balmain boy · Jan 28, 2015

Good post Vanilla.

Farah would never have played the 9s. This tournament is made for exciting young players to make their debuts,such as Cherrington.

The problem with our squad is the imbalance. One playmaker and too many slow forwards. If Taylor is using the 9s as a training exercise for the big guys to practice their positioning, reading the play and scrambling defence then that's something at least.

Naming slow props is not what the 9s are for though. Players like Akauola are fine, as they are athletic. When you only do 1-2 hit ups with forwards a set you don't need that many pigs in the engine room. You need fast second rowers, centres and wingers to spot a gap and burst through and score.

happy_tiger · Jan 29, 2015

@Balmain Boy said:
Good post Vanilla.

Farah would never have played the 9s. This tournament is made for exciting young players to make their debuts,such as Cherrington.

The problem with our squad is the imbalance. One playmaker and too many slow forwards. If Taylor is using the 9s as a training exercise for the big guys to practice their positioning, reading the play and scrambling defence then that's something at least.

Naming slow props is not what the 9s are for though. Players like Akauola are fine, as they are athletic. When you only do 1-2 hit ups with forwards a set you don't need that many pigs in the engine room. You need fast second rowers, centres and wingers to spot a gap and burst through and score.

Unless those big slow forwards can offload and create chances for the quick men

The problem will be defensively , anyone who thinks JT will learn anything defensively by watching them defend in the 9's is kidding themselves

Would be like seeing what you will learn about a horse you want to win the Melbourne Cup by sticking it in 1000m sprint

tig_prmz · Jan 29, 2015

Two of our biggest downfalls in defense last year was fast men around the ruck and edge defense. More often than not, I actually believe we won the ARM and the wrestle.

You make a good point re JT, vanilla.

Lack of speed and awareness has been a major issue for us. I've predicted an oppositions line break so many times- they Always seem to be aware but our defense does not.

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VanillaThunder · Jan 29, 2015

@happy tiger said:
@Balmain Boy said:

Good post Vanilla.

Farah would never have played the 9s. This tournament is made for exciting young players to make their debuts,such as Cherrington.

The problem with our squad is the imbalance. One playmaker and too many slow forwards. If Taylor is using the 9s as a training exercise for the big guys to practice their positioning, reading the play and scrambling defence then that's something at least.

Naming slow props is not what the 9s are for though. Players like Akauola are fine, as they are athletic. When you only do 1-2 hit ups with forwards a set you don't need that many pigs in the engine room. You need fast second rowers, centres and wingers to spot a gap and burst through and score.

Unless those big slow forwards can offload and create chances for the quick men

The problem will be defensively , anyone who thinks JT will learn anything defensively by watching them defend in the 9's is kidding themselves

Would be like seeing what you will learn about a horse you want to win the Melbourne Cup by sticking it in 1000m sprint

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I'm not suggesting JT is using to learn about our forwards, more so that our forwards will learn how to cope with the smaller blokes up the middle when they're tired. We might lose every game 40-0 but if there's even the slightest improvement in middle defence and defensive awareness then that may as well be a win for us.

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VanillaThunder · Jan 29, 2015

I guess more than anything it seems like the focus will be on taking responsibility for your man in defence and making those extra efforts to shut the play down. Considering some of our lazy efforts around the ruck last year (and Ava and Sue were pretty culpable in many of those) I think we have a real opportunity for growth in an environment that would be much harder to replicate on a training paddock.

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king_sirro · Jan 29, 2015

@VanillaThunder said:
I guess more than anything it seems like the focus will be on taking responsibility for your man in defence and making those extra efforts to shut the play down. Considering some of our lazy efforts around the ruck last year (and Ava and Sue were pretty culpable in many of those) I think we have a real opportunity for growth in an environment that would be much harder to replicate on a training paddock.

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The thing that impresses me about Ava is the fact he wasn't lazy in the middle defensively.

Sue had his moments but Ava was pretty good in this regard for a young Islander front rower

Geo · Jan 29, 2015

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2015/01/28/chris_lawrence_previ.html

Chris Lawrence previews Nines squad

Dan Talintyre and Craig Heydon

Wed 28th January, 05:00PM
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Captain Chris Lawrence gives a full run-down on Wests Tigers' squad for the 2015 Auckland Nines, previewing each player in the 18-man squad.

Hear what he had to say about the squad that will take the field at Eden Park above.

Geo · Jan 29, 2015

@happy tiger said:
Have we got a breakdown of when the Tigers actually play ??

Fox just has the complete time frame of when it is , no game breakdown

Here you go Happy…

http://www.nrl.com/DrawResults/AucklandNines/Schedule/tabid/11377/Default.aspx

GAME 5: Sat 31 Jan 12:20pm
Wests Tigers v Raiders

GAME 13: Sat 31 Jan 4:15pm
Wests Tigers v Titans

GAME 21: Sun 1 Feb 10:50am
Wests Tigers v Warriors.....

Final: Sun 1 Feb 5:30pm
Wests Tigers v Who cares.....

Times are EDST ..so - 1 hr for you...

king_sirro · Jan 30, 2015

Top tryscorer for the tournament.

Naqaima $51
Simona $81
Lawrence $101.

Good value if we can sneak into the playoffs

pHyR3 · Jan 30, 2015

@king sirro said:
Top tryscorer for the tournament.

Naqaima $51
Simona $81
Lawrence $101.

Good value if we can sneak into the playoffs

the top try scorer will probably have to play at least the semis (or whatever the 2 games before the GF are called)

unless they fluke a couple of doubles and maybe a hattrick in the group stages.

happy_tiger · Jan 30, 2015

@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:

Have we got a breakdown of when the Tigers actually play ??

Fox just has the complete time frame of when it is , no game breakdown

Here you go Happy…

http://www.nrl.com/DrawResults/AucklandNines/Schedule/tabid/11377/Default.aspx

GAME 5: Sat 31 Jan 12:20pm
Wests Tigers v Raiders

GAME 13: Sat 31 Jan 4:15pm
Wests Tigers v Titans

GAME 21: Sun 1 Feb 10:50am
Wests Tigers v Warriors.....

Final: Sun 1 Feb 5:30pm
Wests Tigers v Who cares.....

Times are EDST ..so - 1 hr for you...

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Thanks Geo ,appreciate that

Don't we get a bye ??

GNR4LIFE · Jan 30, 2015

What time does it start in the morning? NRL.com says 10 30, but doesn't say if that's Aust time or NZ time

Geo · Jan 30, 2015

Times on NRL,com are NZ Times so I presume 10:30 EDST….-1hr for our QLD bro's

I adjusted the times on the above post to EDST...

gallagher · Jan 30, 2015

10.30 Sydney time. 7.30 am over here in Perth . Is that too early for a drink??

happy_tiger · Jan 30, 2015

Well it starts at 9.30 live according to Fox Sports

Cmon Geo get it together man , we rely on your exceptional reasoning and logic and failing that your good looks

Geo · Jan 30, 2015

huh….I'm right,,,,

MATCH PREVIEWS — Check out our full match previews for our Auckland Nines pool group matches against the Raiders, Titans and Warriors!
Game I, 12:20pm Saturday vs. Raiders. Preview — http://bit.ly/1tBuQAP
Game II, 4:15pm Saturday vs. Titans. Preview — http://bit.ly/1623Dxa
Game III, 10:50am Sunday vs. Warriors. Preview — http://bit.ly/1HnZwfe

Keep an eye on weststigers.com.au for all the team news, and follow us on Twitter for live scores & updates: https://twitter.com/Wests_Tigers

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