No New Signings until 2017 - Jason Taylor Statement

[supercoach]

I suppose we can refer to the old saying " you have got to start somewhere",2014 and 2015 will have been the young guys starting times and if they don't cut it after that,where will we be at…..honing some more younger guys that may or may not cut it...
This is the dilemma that often hits clubs,if we had plenty of money,do we try and buy a premiership like other clubs have tried or do we persevere with bringing in the young crop year to year in the hope of breeding our own premiership winners..
I reckon we need a mix of good experienced players and young guns ......have we got good experience to lead the way for them ?...time will tell,we won't win anything with half the squad in rehab year in year out either...
Money,good recruiting and good coaching are what's needed,I think we are on the way to recovery,the next couple of years will tell if we can climb to the top once again....

Good post, the trouble the club faces is getting some real success in the short term in order to generate the money and the respect needed to entice elite players to supplement your great junior strength

 

[TrueTiger]

Very true Supercoach,hopefully Mayer and the new board can come up with a plan to generate more income…that seems our problem at the moment.....

 

[the_third]

If I hadn't heard, almost every year since 2005, we were investing in our juniors (apart from Ellis and Blair) I'd have a bit more patience. You can say it's the previous administration etc but I don't care, it's a sports club and somewhere winning had to come into it.

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[cqtiger]

If I hadn't heard, almost every year since 2005, we were investing in our juniors (apart from Ellis and Blair) I'd have a bit more patience. You can say it's the previous administration etc but I don't care, it's a sports club and somewhere winning had to come into it.

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Yep, I don't know one club that has won premierships full of local juniors. Every successful club has more than a smattering of experienced but more importantly, representative players.

Our juniors may surprise next year but they will also disappoint. We have Farah and Woods as true rep players

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[balmain boy]

If I hadn't heard, almost every year since 2005, we were investing in our juniors (apart from Ellis and Blair) I'd have a bit more patience. You can say it's the previous administration etc but I don't care, it's a sports club and somewhere winning had to come into it.

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Yep, I don't know one club that has won premierships full of local juniors. Every successful club has more than a smattering of experienced but more importantly, representative players.

Our juniors may surprise next year but they will also disappoint. We have Farah and Woods as true rep players

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Except for when we won the comp in 2005? We had a few experienced players but none that were playing rep footy. One that had, and a couple which would in the future but we were kids and average old blokes.

Our current squad has far more rep and international players than any we've ever had before.

Looking at next season a number of our experienced players are local juniors too - Farah, Halatau, Lawrence…

Richards, Naiqama, Moltzen and Galloway are really the only first graders who aren't local juniors which is a great stat for the club to promote.

 

[cqtiger]

If I hadn't heard, almost every year since 2005, we were investing in our juniors (apart from Ellis and Blair) I'd have a bit more patience. You can say it's the previous administration etc but I don't care, it's a sports club and somewhere winning had to come into it.

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Yep, I don't know one club that has won premierships full of local juniors. Every successful club has more than a smattering of experienced but more importantly, representative players.

Our juniors may surprise next year but they will also disappoint. We have Farah and Woods as true rep players

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Except for when we won the comp in 2005? We had a few experienced players but none that were playing rep footy. One that had, and a couple which would in the future but we were kids and average old blokes.

Our current squad has far more rep and international players than any we've ever had before.

Looking at next season a number of our experienced players are local juniors too - Farah, Halatau, Lawrence…

Richards, Naiqama, Moltzen and Galloway are really the only first graders who aren't local juniors which is a great stat for the club to promote.

In 05 I think our rep players were Hodgson, Whatauira, Benji, Prince that come to mind. SOO or international duties. Plenty of other experience in Elford, Richards, Galea, Payten, O'Neill et al.

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[balmain boy]

If I hadn't heard, almost every year since 2005, we were investing in our juniors (apart from Ellis and Blair) I'd have a bit more patience. You can say it's the previous administration etc but I don't care, it's a sports club and somewhere winning had to come into it.

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Yep, I don't know one club that has won premierships full of local juniors. Every successful club has more than a smattering of experienced but more importantly, representative players.

Our juniors may surprise next year but they will also disappoint. We have Farah and Woods as true rep players

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Except for when we won the comp in 2005? We had a few experienced players but none that were playing rep footy. One that had, and a couple which would in the future but we were kids and average old blokes.

Our current squad has far more rep and international players than any we've ever had before.

Looking at next season a number of our experienced players are local juniors too - Farah, Halatau, Lawrence…

Richards, Naiqama, Moltzen and Galloway are really the only first graders who aren't local juniors which is a great stat for the club to promote.

In 05 I think our rep players were Hodgson, Whatauira, Benji, Prince that come to mind. SOO or international duties. Plenty of other experience in Elford, Richards, Galea, Payten, O'Neill et al.

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Our only rep player during the 2005 was Phatz. Hodgo, Benji, Prince played origin/internationals after the success of our 2005 season.

We currently have Woods, Robbie, Taupau , Simona and Sue playing internationals with 2 of the boys playing Origin. Far more international quality than we had back then.

If you want to include recent city/country as a rep game then you can add Sirro and Teddy to our list (and Hodgo and Skando from 05)

And other experience like Galloway (NSW), Lawrence (Australia), Halatau (NZ).

Our current squad does have quality both current and past on which we can build from. If you add junior internationals (which i won't as youth talent doesn't always make the step up there'd be another 10 or so junior reps at the club.

 

[cqtiger]

Yep, I don't know one club that has won premierships full of local juniors. Every successful club has more than a smattering of experienced but more importantly, representative players.

Our juniors may surprise next year but they will also disappoint. We have Farah and Woods as true rep players

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Except for when we won the comp in 2005? We had a few experienced players but none that were playing rep footy. One that had, and a couple which would in the future but we were kids and average old blokes.

Our current squad has far more rep and international players than any we've ever had before.

Looking at next season a number of our experienced players are local juniors too - Farah, Halatau, Lawrence…

Richards, Naiqama, Moltzen and Galloway are really the only first graders who aren't local juniors which is a great stat for the club to promote.

In 05 I think our rep players were Hodgson, Whatauira, Benji, Prince that come to mind. SOO or international duties. Plenty of other experience in Elford, Richards, Galea, Payten, O'Neill et al.

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Our only rep player during the 2005 was Phatz. Hodgo, Benji, Prince played origin/internationals after the success of our 2005 season.

We currently have Woods, Robbie, Taupau , Simona and Sue playing internationals with 2 of the boys playing Origin. Far more international quality than we had back then.

If you want to include recent city/country as a rep game then you can add Sirro and Teddy to our list (and Hodgo and Skando from 05)

And other experience like Galloway (NSW), Lawrence (Australia), Halatau (NZ).

Our current squad does have quality both current and past on which we can build from. If you add junior internationals (which i won't as youth talent doesn't always make the step up there'd be another 10 or so junior reps at the club.

But you fail to acknowledge that Hodgo, Prince & Whatuira all played SOO or NZ prior to 05\. That's the rep experience I was trying to get across. Experience in key positions that we lack atm

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[mctiger]

The label premiership favourites didnt sit well with me in 2011\. Somehow it just went against the grain.
All through the years Wests and Balmain have been battling clubs and todays version is no different.
We'll have our day in the sun again ….... probably not next year ........ but then again who predicted it in 2005 ........ apart from Tigergran that is.

I am not even certain Tigergran picked that one, but she would have been happy to claim it regardless :slight_smile:

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[foreveratiger]

The label premiership favourites didnt sit well with me in 2011\. Somehow it just went against the grain.
All through the years Wests and Balmain have been battling clubs and todays version is no different.
We'll have our day in the sun again ….... probably not next year ........ but then again who predicted it in 2005 ........ apart from Tigergran that is.

I am not even certain Tigergran picked that one, but she would have been happy to claim it regardless :slight_smile:

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Tigergran , what a beautiful soul she was . Didn't know her as long as some of you older Posters did , she loved the Races and the Footy Show :laughing:

 

[newtiger]

I know we are not buying any players until2017, but Neville Costigan would be a good 1 year fit with all your young players, a hard head that can tackle all day, like Fults.

 

[bp_tiger]

I know we are not buying any players until2017, but Neville Costigan would be a good 1 year fit with all your young players, a hard head that can tackle all day, like Fults.

Iam with u we need some mongrel to help these kids or they will end up burned out before the season is over. Surely we can not be that broke that we cant bring some old heads in who would not cost much.

 

[Geo]

Hull KR want an 80k transfer fee for Costigan which would be included in the salary cap plus say 150k min…is not that cheap..

Bennett has said no to him outlining he is past his best...

 

[foreveratiger]

Hull KR want an 80k transfer fee for Costigan which would be included in the salary cap plus say 150k min…is not that cheap..

Bennett has said no to him outlining he is past his best...

Yeah i agree with Bennett , he has been poor for Hull this year .
We might be short on experienced Squad players but the last thing we should do is be desperate IMO . I don't think we will chase him.

 

[pHyR3]

Except for when we won the comp in 2005? We had a few experienced players but none that were playing rep footy. One that had, and a couple which would in the future but we were kids and average old blokes.

Our current squad has far more rep and international players than any we've ever had before.

Looking at next season a number of our experienced players are local juniors too - Farah, Halatau, Lawrence…

Richards, Naiqama, Moltzen and Galloway are really the only first graders who aren't local juniors which is a great stat for the club to promote.

In 05 I think our rep players were Hodgson, Whatauira, Benji, Prince that come to mind. SOO or international duties. Plenty of other experience in Elford, Richards, Galea, Payten, O'Neill et al.

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Our only rep player during the 2005 was Phatz. Hodgo, Benji, Prince played origin/internationals after the success of our 2005 season.

We currently have Woods, Robbie, Taupau , Simona and Sue playing internationals with 2 of the boys playing Origin. Far more international quality than we had back then.

If you want to include recent city/country as a rep game then you can add Sirro and Teddy to our list (and Hodgo and Skando from 05)

And other experience like Galloway (NSW), Lawrence (Australia), Halatau (NZ).

Our current squad does have quality both current and past on which we can build from. If you add junior internationals (which i won't as youth talent doesn't always make the step up there'd be another 10 or so junior reps at the club.

But you fail to acknowledge that Hodgo, Prince & Whatuira all played SOO or NZ prior to 05\. That's the rep experience I was trying to get across. Experience in key positions that we lack atm

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We also have tonnes of experience. Taupau, Farah, Woods, Lawrence, Galloway and Halatau with NZ, Aus or SOO experience. Sure some aren't as good as they once were but Woods, Farah and Taupau definitely are.

pretty inexperienced in the 1, 6 and 7 though. Teddy might be able to provide a bit more direction this year though after hitting around 40 games.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I've only skimmed the last couple pages regarding 05, but saying we won the comp with a team full of kids is a little incorrect. We did have a good mix of experience with Skando, O'Neill, Prince, Hodgo, Elford, Whatuira, Payton, Fitzy and Galea. 2015 way too early to be challenging for a premiership. The 8 is more realistic, and even that is really pushing it. People are talking us up, but they're forgetting we have no depth, except for kids who may be great players one day but they'll be getting thrown in the deep end with no first grade experience. Lack of depth will be our downfall in 2015.

 

[TrueTiger]

GNR your right,the key word is experience,that's what's needed to support the young guys while making the transition to full NRL players..

Tough hard hitting centre and backrower…I reckon...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

GNR your right,the key word is experience,that's what's needed to support the young guys while making the transition to full NRL players..

Tough hard hitting centre and backrower…I reckon...

That's another problem we're going to have, no backrow. Whose going to start, Halatau, Sirro and Sue? Not a starting backrow that gives me a lot of confidence.