Comments like that make JT look like Mother Theresa by comparison.
No Robbie Farah= 3 wins in a row...
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Gary_Bakerloo
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I make that 20 reasons not to have a Facebook account.
Cosimo_Zaretti
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
It's just a question of moderating. This forum is kept a lot tidier than the Tigers Facebook page.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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Robbie has given as good as he has taken so he does not need their cheap shots and rudeness. He will still get full pay. Put him on bench for next 3 games as perfect compromise - but must play excellently from game one or drag him off at half time.
We won 3/4 with Farah off the bench. The reality is the TEAM has improved across the board over the past 8 weeks or so. I don't think it would be any different with Farah in the team in particular off the bench.
Either way its a dumb topic Farah is not in the team and won't be back so why even bring this up.
Either way its a dumb topic Farah is not in the team and won't be back so why even bring this up.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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It is a dumb topic but now we have lost Brooks off injured and Moses too tired at 70 mins to have a shot at field goal we need another playmaker and true defender in there. In last game they were targeting Moses too much, they need someone to take attention away from Mitch who can do everything that Mitch can.
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I think Farah off the bench is a positive for the team. I also respect the fact JT has put his cards on the table and the team has won 3 in a row by leaving Farah out. It has shown with Moses he may be impacted mentally from a dominant personality in Farah being in the team. He is way better with Farah out of the team and it is not due to the myth of slow service Farah, who passes quicker the both Halatau and Rankin it must be something we can't see as fans, which taylor has picked up on.
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@TYGA said:
Well what is the solution for them targeting Moses for 80 minutes and tiring him out? Do you really expect last game's extraordinary performance every week? You may be correct re Moses and Farah's chemistry not gelling but it seemed okay for last couple of their games together. Even take Moses off for a short break while Farah is on there. Negotiate it out between all main players before draw for weekend. I don't Farah is going anywhere else so he must step up for the occasion. He has never let the team down on the field so I can't see him beginning now just to get back at management. But he must apologise first in front of team even if not publically.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@TYGA said:
Greg Pritchard from The Roar attempts to explain the difference between Farah and Halatau/Rankin:
_Moses is now running the show. He gets the ball whenever he wants it. Tigers coach Jason Taylor wanted a functional hooker and he has now got that, whether it’s Dene Halatau at dummy-half or Jordan Rankin.\
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But it’s not like Halatau and Rankin aren’t allowed to run from dummy-half. They are, and they did at times yesterday. But when they run it’s at pace, with the aim of gaining valuable metres. **It’s not about ambling out of dummy-half and then passing the ball to a receiver when the space between him and the advancing defence has already been significantly reduced.**_
http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/08/08/hayne-plain-brilliant-loser-moses-commanding-winner/
Byron_Bay_Fan
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That was noticeable about 6 months ago but they were falling apart the seams in defence without Farah. And still too much of a scramble without him on most days. Blast him to run quick and hard or not at all just pass.
@Byron Bay Fan said:
What has 6 months ago got to do with now? Were they falling apart at the seams against an international pack last weekend?
The biggest defensive problem we've had this season has been the right edge, not the middle of the park. The hooker does not have a bearing on the right edge defence. There is not much to say that we'd be a better defensive team at the moment with Robbie out there.
@cktiger said:
We don't need someone who does whatever he wants and doesn't follow the game plan. We don't need someone thinking his bigger than the team and a negative influence.
That game on Sunday proved without a doubt we are a better team without Farah. It's no coincidence Nofoa is playing his best footy ever with Farah out of the team.
Brooks is going to follow the coach's instructions Farah is just going to do whatever he likes.
stevetiger
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@Fumbles said:
100% spot on. Nofo is playing so much better because Robbie isn't getting onto the wing and taking the ball off him. Myself and JT realised this early in the season and we kept telling Robbie to stay off the wing but he wouldn't follow instructions.
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Moses was on fire when Farah was on the bench for 4 games also.
I don't agree with this analysis as Farah had much more dynamism than Halatau and Rankin out of dummy half and also provides much sharper service. I support the coaches right to make the decision however, this is lazy analysis as its just not right.
Farah won't be here next year however, the bigger elephant in the room is it looks like we have 2 halfbacks Moses & Brooks. I feel the heat is being directed at the wrong person in Farah.
Brooks has been terrible for a majority of the season.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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I am sure I seen Robbie steal the ball from Teddy at fullback as well
stevetiger
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@Byron Bay Fan said:
Yep. Me & JT picked up on this one as well. I said to him "Robbie - mate. You aren't the fullback. It's your job to pass the ball to the fullback but not be the fullback. Do you get it !". He didn't get it.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@TYGA said:
Maybe….but then how good must he be going now???
_**THE BIGGEST WINNER**\
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"So far this season it’s quite clearly been Moses who has felt most suffocated by the influence of Farah with his performances going to another level when the Tigers field someone else in the No.9 jersey.\
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While Brooks has had fairly even contributions across the season, regardless of whether or not Farah plays, Moses touches the ball significantly more and creates far more havoc when his senior teammate is absent.\
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His average possessions rise from 37.8 per game to 42.9 per game, he’s made more than double the linebreak assists without Farah (an increase from two to five) and more than double the try assists (three with Farah, eight without him).\
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He also takes more responsibility with the boot, kicking more in the Tigers’ attacking zones, which has resulted in seven forced drop outs without Farah and just three with him.\
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Intriguingly Moses has made less linebreaks and scored less tries without Farah by his side, which only strengthens the point that his game switches focus, taking the opportunity to play make for his side, not just run the ball."_
http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/stats-insider-the-biggest-winner-of-jason-taylors-call-to-dump-tigers-star-robbie-farah/news-story/ee6cd440ba5f90fa3445ced498a68d05
To the naked eye Moses appears better with no Farah.
However he also appears better with no Brooks.
Moses is a dominant personality. He wants the ball all the time.
Of the analysis 37 touches to 42 is not a huge increase. If it were 20 with Farah and 40 without you would be asking questions. However its not liked Moses was starved of the ball.
However he also appears better with no Brooks.
Moses is a dominant personality. He wants the ball all the time.
Of the analysis 37 touches to 42 is not a huge increase. If it were 20 with Farah and 40 without you would be asking questions. However its not liked Moses was starved of the ball.
