Nofo Must Do His Time

[momo_amp_medo]

No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.

Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.

We are definitely not on same page mate!
For the record Ross outplayed both our wingers last night. He would be a low cost upgrade.
As far as Robbie is concerned you just don’t get it!
Time to get that chip of your shoulder.

 

[Russell]

No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.

Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.

We are definitely not on same page mate!
For the record Ross outplayed both our wingers last night. He would be a low cost upgrade.
As far as Robbie is concerned you just don’t get it!
Time to get that chip of your shoulder.

I don't get it - you are absolutely right.

Whats with the chip crack - settle down and talk sensibly.

 

[TCL]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

 

[Russell]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

You don't know that! :unamused:

 

[Newtown]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.

 

[Tim Sheens]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.

Heleta is not on a Top 30 contract, so not eligible to play first grade.

 

[Chevy]

I have only seen Heleta in a few games,he seems to have a lot of speed yet rarely gets a mention for fg,not being contracted doesn’t help his cause .

 

[Snake]

Nofo has completely outplayed Fonua in every ISP game. Fonua has a long way to go. Lolo would be a better wing option.

I have also watch all the ISP games telecast , the only reason Nofo has looked better than Fonua is the skill of Gamble his line kicks and passes have talent all over them with Nofo being the beneficiary. Who is doing all the hard runs and constantly looking for work Fonua … He has earned a call up as Nofoalumas General game is not worthy of him keep his spot ...on form Fonua hands down at present. :sign:

 

[Newtown]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.

Heleta is not on a Top 30 contract, so not eligible to play first grade.

Doesn't Wests Tigers currently have two Top 30 contract spots vacant.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

No matter how you analyse his performance tonight.
Surely you must see that he is a liability.
I doubt that he will be with us next season.
I’d take Nathan Ross.

Are you collecting no hopers?

In another thread you said you would take Norths hooker.

We are definitely not on same page mate!
For the record Ross outplayed both our wingers last night. He would be a low cost upgrade.
As far as Robbie is concerned you just don’t get it!
Time to get that chip of your shoulder.

There's nothing more infuriating than FarahS name infiltrating every damn thread.

 

[king_sirro]

Nofo has completely outplayed Fonua in every ISP game. Fonua has a long way to go. Lolo would be a better wing option.

I have also watch all the ISP games telecast , the only reason Nofo has looked better than Fonua is the skill of Gamble his line kicks and passes have talent all over them with Nofo being the beneficiary. Who is doing all the hard runs and constantly looking for work Fonua … He has earned a call up as Nofoalumas General game is not worthy of him keep his spot ...on form Fonua hands down at present. :sign:

I disagree. Nofo does just as much hard work and breaks much more tackles than Fonua. To say Nofo only looks better because of Gamble is a stretch.

I'm not digging at Fonua, when we signed him I thought he'd be great and walk into first grade, but he has turned out to be one of those real heart in mouth players. Cant catch a bomb to save himself either. I'd like to see how Fonua goes in the centres. I think that would suit him better.

 

[jirskyr]

On this topic, surely Cleary will do his HW and make the right decision - he is obviously a good coach.

If he keeps Nofo, we can understand he feels the D was a bigger-picture failure and will work on it with all players.

If he drops Nofo, he would feel Nofo has failed at some key indicator. Being aware of course that Nofo was dropped at season beginning precisely because he had holes in his game.

Trust in the coach?

 

[Tim Sheens]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

If Tui is still out of form it is time to play Heleta as first grade fullback and Thompson on wing replacing Nofo.

Heleta is not on a Top 30 contract, so not eligible to play first grade.

Doesn't Wests Tigers currently have two Top 30 contract spots vacant.

I believe that it is one spot, with payment to Curtis Sironen filling the other currently. Also think we need to spend half a million odd plus just to meet our minimum cap spend and unless we extend and upgrade a few more (assumed)like Esan, well, I presume WT are looking for disgruntled top liners at other clubs, rather than the likes of Watson or similar.

 

[king_sirro]

On this topic, surely Cleary will do his HW and make the right decision - he is obviously a good coach.

If he keeps Nofo, we can understand he feels the D was a bigger-picture failure and will work on it with all players.

If he drops Nofo, he would feel Nofo has failed at some key indicator. Being aware of course that Nofo was dropped at season beginning precisely because he had holes in his game.

Trust in the coach?

I think that's right. Ivan will look and assess each situation. No doubt at all Benji will be pulled in to have a look at his mistakes. Whether or not the inside mistakes are enough to give Nofo another chance will be decided by the man who knows best.

Personally, I feel we need to try David at fullback. In a side where we lack real class outwide, he's a very important cog IMO. Would like to see him and Thompson swap. I think Nofo could give fullback a real shake, Thomspon shows just as much involvement from the wing, so we don't lose much by moving him. Big concern would be Nofo's positional play. Thompsons positional play is great.

 

[TCL]

1 imo was his fault.

If we are bLaming him for the others, then he is just a scape goat.

In a game where we had over 50 missed tackles we are holding 1 man accountable.

What's the alternative? Tui to fb and Thompson to the wing?

Then we would have conceded 2 down that side and 2 up the middle.

You don't know that! :unamused:

That's why I said in my opinion. :unamused:

On the radio call yesterday they said Thompson saved two tries?

The reserve grade game I watched last week with Tui at back was, he let two soft try's in (Imo).

2 of the try's yesterday imo no one in our squad was going to stop.

 

[stevied]

If you blame the winger for a loss when the team missing 50+ tackles I think you are missing the point. I thought we look vulnerable on both edges which I think was a function of losing the ruck and struggling in the middle.

They will need to work out what went wrong. We lost the forward battle…,was it selections, rotations? Probably a bit of both.

No one is missing the point Larry. If you read mine and countless other comments in other threads, you would see that we have already stated that the main issue in the loss was the Newcastle domination of the ruck which laid a platform for the Knights halves and fullback to get on a roll. The other factor, was a drop in intensity by the tigers, which led to our worst defensive effort.
However, this doesn't hide the fact that Nofo still has issues with his defense, which is what this thread is about.

 

[stevied]

On this topic, surely Cleary will do his HW and make the right decision - he is obviously a good coach.

If he keeps Nofo, we can understand he feels the D was a bigger-picture failure and will work on it with all players.

If he drops Nofo, he would feel Nofo has failed at some key indicator. Being aware of course that Nofo was dropped at season beginning precisely because he had holes in his game.

Trust in the coach?

I think that's right. Ivan will look and assess each situation. No doubt at all Benji will be pulled in to have a look at his mistakes. Whether or not the inside mistakes are enough to give Nofo another chance will be decided by the man who knows best.

Personally, I feel we need to try David at fullback. In a side where we lack real class outwide, he's a very important cog IMO. Would like to see him and Thompson swap. I think Nofo could give fullback a real shake, Thomspon shows just as much involvement from the wing, so we don't lose much by moving him. Big concern would be Nofo's positional play. Thompsons positional play is great.

Your last two sentences explain why your suggestion is not the best solution King Sirro.

 

[king_sirro]

On this topic, surely Cleary will do his HW and make the right decision - he is obviously a good coach.

If he keeps Nofo, we can understand he feels the D was a bigger-picture failure and will work on it with all players.

If he drops Nofo, he would feel Nofo has failed at some key indicator. Being aware of course that Nofo was dropped at season beginning precisely because he had holes in his game.

Trust in the coach?

I think that's right. Ivan will look and assess each situation. No doubt at all Benji will be pulled in to have a look at his mistakes. Whether or not the inside mistakes are enough to give Nofo another chance will be decided by the man who knows best.

Personally, I feel we need to try David at fullback. In a side where we lack real class outwide, he's a very important cog IMO. Would like to see him and Thompson swap. I think Nofo could give fullback a real shake, Thomspon shows just as much involvement from the wing, so we don't lose much by moving him. Big concern would be Nofo's positional play. Thompsons positional play is great.

Your last two sentences explain why your suggestion is not the best solution King Sirro.

We don't know that until its tried though do we?

 

[larrycorowa]

Nofo started the season in regies and clearly that's where he needs to return to. If he'd read the play correctly in just one of his opposite's three tries, we win. Rarely have I seen such a defensively challenged winger. Yes, he is solid rucking it out of our end and, yes, he can score a try but enough is enough. To play first grade you must be able to run hard, catch the high ball and DEFEND. He is merely passable under the high ball and cannot make correct decisions defensively. That's 1 1/2 out of 3, not good enough to play first grade.

Two of the three tries were created by bad defensive reads inside nofo. If he stays on his man the guy inside scores.

 

[upthetigers]

Nofo started the season in regies and clearly that's where he needs to return to. If he'd read the play correctly in just one of his opposite's three tries, we win. Rarely have I seen such a defensively challenged winger. Yes, he is solid rucking it out of our end and, yes, he can score a try but enough is enough. To play first grade you must be able to run hard, catch the high ball and DEFEND. He is merely passable under the high ball and cannot make correct decisions defensively. That's 1 1/2 out of 3, not good enough to play first grade.

Two of the three tries were created by bad defensive reads inside nofo. If he stays on his man the guy inside scores.

Haha yeah and if he stayed on his man they'd be complaining that he didn't read the play if the inside player scores.

By following the centre in the intercept comes into play. Staying on the wing the inside player gets across the line untouched.